Editor’s Note: The Lovefraud reader One_Step_at_a_Time sent the following post.
Finally, after a long break, I have returned to reading The Betrayal Bond. I feel immediately open when I read the concepts presented in it, and I feel protected, like someone actually has my best interest at heart.
The spath did not. And yet she did things looked like she cared for me, or perhaps she was just protecting her supply. I don’t know yet, but as I remember and unravel my experience with her, I will start to write those things down, and ask here, “please decode this for me, ”˜cause I just don’t know, it is too close and I cannot see the whole of its shape.”
Tonight, after an intense week that was a sprint for my tired spirit and body, I have a break. So, into the tub I went for a nice long soak and a read. Five pages further along in The Betrayal Bond, and I am triggered. But not in a bad way. More like, hmm? And then, aha!
My dad. I could see the arc of our relationship; it was so gradual, and so alienating I hadn’t seen it. A few weeks before Christmas this year I went NC with my dad. I felt it was the right thing to do — probably more clear to me emotionally at this time, than being NC with the spath is.
My dad — THAT guy. That guy who I loved and cherished as a kid — who, by default, was the more easygoing adult in the house; THAT guy who I emulated, who I was proud of as a kid; THAT guy who, as he ages, becomes increasingly more bizarre, cold, and narcissitic. THAT guy — whose “love,” I recognized tonight, in the arc of devalue and discard.
My old man is an N. My mom told me a story a couple of times of the second year of their marriage, in which my dad goes out and and spends the money they (“she”) needs for formula for my older sib, on gas for a boat so that he can go water skiing. Now, my old man is in his seventh decade, and is first generation — comes from a very patriarchal eastern European family — was a young hot shot, worked hard, played hard. His being selfish at a young age, well, it can be understood in the context of his life. His actions: reprehensible. Possible to contextualize: yes. How my mother must have felt. Her husband spent the money they needed to feed their child. It was the 50’s; you didn’t leave even if they were beating you.
I moved far away from home at 18; thousands of miles away. I was more intelligent than I knew. It was 15 years before I understood that I went to get away from them.
My mom has been my dad’s supply my whole life. And now she’s ill and he has lost his supply, and as a friend says, his head is so far up his ass, we haven’t seen his neck in a decade.
And she still tries. And she has ALWAYS tried to broker deals and cajole and shame me into taking care of him — be another source. My WHOLE life — even now, demented as hell, she does this. It has made it so much easier for her to dismiss his behaviour, because she cannot remember how he hurts her, day in, day out.
When I first came back to this area, I stayed with them, and I stayed much longer than I should have. I couldn’t leave her. It was amazing; I actually had to RUN AWAY FROM HOME in my 40’s.
I have been struggling mightily. The last four years have been a spiral of worsening conditions for me. For the first time in my life, I need the help of my family. Any given month right since the hardcore spath experience I have been one bad decision or circumstance away from the street.
And my dad will not help.
Now, I cannot talk to my mom — cannot see her, cannot not tell her what he has done and continues to do, cannot ask for help and cannot challenge her mixed up salad thinking that has her acting like they have no money and she has no conscience about helping her daughter. I cannot challenge her — this poor demented woman. Nor could I challenge the poor demented spath. The poor, helpless, abused spath.
Several years ago, my father as trustee of my inheritance from my grandfather, screwed me. It is a long and complex story. It took eight years of lies and unfulfilled promises to *get* that he has stolen this money from me, and truly, has NO intention of paying it back.
I am really lucky; I have friends who have called his behaviour, have looked at me in horror when I describe the things that he has done, and continues to do. A look of horror goes a long way with me; it speaks directly to my damaged sense of self service, saying, “look, someone else knows this is wrong, knows you have done nothing to deserve this treatment, KNOWS his actions are disordered.” Funny, I KNOW his actions are wrong, but I have tried again and again AND AGAIN — to MAKE IT RIGHT.
I have been profoundly shamed by my father’s treatment of me. In the last four years he has constantly devalued me. And now, I am discarded, because I NEED HIM to be giving, and loving and supportive.
The N arc has taken decades to show itself. But there it is. As I am writing about it I keep seeing a rainbow, “arco iris” in Spanish. If being spathed finally got me to see my father for what he is, then so be it.
I have a long way to go in this healing around him and the supply mentality of my mom and my upbringing. I am up for a little enlightened self interest at this point in my life. I pray that I can learn to be smart in this way. The possibility seems kinda exciting (and ya know, I like me some excitement 😉 but I am not sure if I will be able to do it.
My dad bought a new boat last year.
DISHONEST PERSONS ARE DISLOYAL AND NON MONOGOMOUS….
Exactly, and you are harmed through their acts because they just don’t care about anyone but themselves. Period.
Rosa, I used to do the same thing, trying to find out things and then try to reason or discuss, especially with the MIL……it just doesn’t work because of what they are…its like trying to reason with a piece of shit….it will only get on you and make you smell! Just flush it away….and twice for good riddance!
I just lost a long post….SHIT!
One Step – many thanks for your comforting words. I know what you mean about the parental expectations building a glass ceiling for our performance. I have hit it with negative evaluations from external sources as well as negative self talk and you paint a really good description that this process is forcing you to smash through it. I get a taste of that in the wind as well – that soon there will be no limits – either imposed from without or within. I hope it is true – the thought of it sets me on fire 🙂
No real other thoughts to share today – if I had been your mama – I would have talked with you lots about the big feelings inside your heart and mind – given you words to express them and creative processes to converse with them. I am sorry we both weren’t honored in this way. Maybe we can pay it forward in some way for other children one day when we recognise that sensitivity?
CAmom,
I just read your story, far above in the posts. OMG … I am SO sorry! When I read it, I just wanted to reach out to you and cry.
I am usually good with words … but not this time. The kind of emotional pain you had to endure from your childhood is unfathomable.
I always thought that the monsters in fairy tales were make believe. Not anymore.
Kimberly
Erin – your question about why they can’t be honest with whether they want men or women? I was thinking about a related topic today. I said to a friend
“It’s the pretending that hurts – I gave him opportunities to get out – actually asked him DO YOU WANT OUT? And he said no always. So he pretended to be ‘happy’ with me even though he wasn’t – he didn’t want the chance that I could be happy with someone else. He wanted me off the market but totally unhappy and unfulfilled with him. It’s so sick. If you don’t want to be with someone – you get honest and you leave – you don’t drive them mad by saying you love them and then making it obvious in actions that you hate them.”
They have no respect for our values or our desires – they just want what they want. And they want us off the market to hang around for the possibility of giving them secondary supply when outside sources don’t come through and they’re running low on lifeblood. We’re just the backup – like dolls on a shelf to be picked up and thrown aside for their amusement. No consideration of us as people with wishes, hopes and dreams – we are just objects that fulfil a role – to make them look good and normal. We’re just a prop in a huge staged play where they are the main and only actor. We are inert, without life, feelings, rights of our own – to be moved around and manipulated by the psychopath for their own amusement. Man it makes my blood boil to realise it!
Points well taken….I was thinking along those same lines….don’t want to help him at all….and my atty wants me to answer in short oneliners…she is prepared to object to anything and everything…
I feel protected by many cases I have read up on….and what the independent judge told me who prepared our MSA. My separate assets cannot be attached for a judgment against him.
http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:GFmRygdqNvMJ:caselaw.findlaw.com/data2/californiastatecases/b107999.doc+11601+Wilshire+Associates+v.+Helen+Grebow&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
My fear is after the trial, if they get a judgment, he will sue me, just for spite…of course he will.
Been hearing through the grapevine that he is shitting bricks over my depo…does my heart good to know this… 😉
He is supposed to attend with his atty…but I am betting he will be a no show…he is a coward and will not want to be in the same room with the attys that are suing him..
Planting that seed may just come out, depending on the questioning….I get the feeling that they know he is a CB, just based on the whole case.
midlifecrisis – that was a powerful post..thanks
very weird…..
I just answered a long post of yours, EB, then accidentally clicked out of LF….and your post is gone!
midlifecrisis….I am right there with hens…
You hit the nail on the head with that post.
Aw thanks hens and heartmoonstar – I feel like such a broken record recounting to my dear friend over coffee every time I see him how hurt I am about it all – being just shoved to the side and replaced within a few weeks. It’s all about just using someone – we don’t matter at all. All those gifts inside us that we were so proud of building and growing don’t matter – we could have been any random person from the street – even someone who didn’t care as much and didn’t have the depth of feeling.
That’s also what hurts – as well as many o ther aspects if I am honest. How do I word it? I had so much light and love and goodness inside and such a need for love and affirmation – why did I end up with someone who couldn’t have cared less about my personal qualities? Why couldn’t he have picked someone who was cold and hostile and unfeeling? It seems like double cruelty that he selected me. Of course intellectually I know the answer – the good qualities were prime qualities for exploitation. Had he picked someone that didn’t care, they would have given him no attention, wouldn’t have scrubbed his shirts or been concerned about his nutrition and making healthy meals that tasted good. It’s so messed up – to know that every effort, every ounce of energy expended was a waste of time. Nothing we did could have made any difference to them. We could have sat on our asses on the sofa for years picking our noses and it wouldn’t have made any difference at all. All that care and concern was wasted at the hands of someone who didn’t know how to appreciate what he was being offered and how precious it was. And now it feels ruined. IF I did meet someone nice, I don’t know that I could go through all that special effort again – I just feel so jaded knowing how badly I was betrayed.