Editor’s Note: The Lovefraud reader One_Step_at_a_Time sent the following post.
Finally, after a long break, I have returned to reading The Betrayal Bond. I feel immediately open when I read the concepts presented in it, and I feel protected, like someone actually has my best interest at heart.
The spath did not. And yet she did things looked like she cared for me, or perhaps she was just protecting her supply. I don’t know yet, but as I remember and unravel my experience with her, I will start to write those things down, and ask here, “please decode this for me, ”˜cause I just don’t know, it is too close and I cannot see the whole of its shape.”
Tonight, after an intense week that was a sprint for my tired spirit and body, I have a break. So, into the tub I went for a nice long soak and a read. Five pages further along in The Betrayal Bond, and I am triggered. But not in a bad way. More like, hmm? And then, aha!
My dad. I could see the arc of our relationship; it was so gradual, and so alienating I hadn’t seen it. A few weeks before Christmas this year I went NC with my dad. I felt it was the right thing to do — probably more clear to me emotionally at this time, than being NC with the spath is.
My dad — THAT guy. That guy who I loved and cherished as a kid — who, by default, was the more easygoing adult in the house; THAT guy who I emulated, who I was proud of as a kid; THAT guy who, as he ages, becomes increasingly more bizarre, cold, and narcissitic. THAT guy — whose “love,” I recognized tonight, in the arc of devalue and discard.
My old man is an N. My mom told me a story a couple of times of the second year of their marriage, in which my dad goes out and and spends the money they (“she”) needs for formula for my older sib, on gas for a boat so that he can go water skiing. Now, my old man is in his seventh decade, and is first generation — comes from a very patriarchal eastern European family — was a young hot shot, worked hard, played hard. His being selfish at a young age, well, it can be understood in the context of his life. His actions: reprehensible. Possible to contextualize: yes. How my mother must have felt. Her husband spent the money they needed to feed their child. It was the 50’s; you didn’t leave even if they were beating you.
I moved far away from home at 18; thousands of miles away. I was more intelligent than I knew. It was 15 years before I understood that I went to get away from them.
My mom has been my dad’s supply my whole life. And now she’s ill and he has lost his supply, and as a friend says, his head is so far up his ass, we haven’t seen his neck in a decade.
And she still tries. And she has ALWAYS tried to broker deals and cajole and shame me into taking care of him — be another source. My WHOLE life — even now, demented as hell, she does this. It has made it so much easier for her to dismiss his behaviour, because she cannot remember how he hurts her, day in, day out.
When I first came back to this area, I stayed with them, and I stayed much longer than I should have. I couldn’t leave her. It was amazing; I actually had to RUN AWAY FROM HOME in my 40’s.
I have been struggling mightily. The last four years have been a spiral of worsening conditions for me. For the first time in my life, I need the help of my family. Any given month right since the hardcore spath experience I have been one bad decision or circumstance away from the street.
And my dad will not help.
Now, I cannot talk to my mom — cannot see her, cannot not tell her what he has done and continues to do, cannot ask for help and cannot challenge her mixed up salad thinking that has her acting like they have no money and she has no conscience about helping her daughter. I cannot challenge her — this poor demented woman. Nor could I challenge the poor demented spath. The poor, helpless, abused spath.
Several years ago, my father as trustee of my inheritance from my grandfather, screwed me. It is a long and complex story. It took eight years of lies and unfulfilled promises to *get* that he has stolen this money from me, and truly, has NO intention of paying it back.
I am really lucky; I have friends who have called his behaviour, have looked at me in horror when I describe the things that he has done, and continues to do. A look of horror goes a long way with me; it speaks directly to my damaged sense of self service, saying, “look, someone else knows this is wrong, knows you have done nothing to deserve this treatment, KNOWS his actions are disordered.” Funny, I KNOW his actions are wrong, but I have tried again and again AND AGAIN — to MAKE IT RIGHT.
I have been profoundly shamed by my father’s treatment of me. In the last four years he has constantly devalued me. And now, I am discarded, because I NEED HIM to be giving, and loving and supportive.
The N arc has taken decades to show itself. But there it is. As I am writing about it I keep seeing a rainbow, “arco iris” in Spanish. If being spathed finally got me to see my father for what he is, then so be it.
I have a long way to go in this healing around him and the supply mentality of my mom and my upbringing. I am up for a little enlightened self interest at this point in my life. I pray that I can learn to be smart in this way. The possibility seems kinda exciting (and ya know, I like me some excitement 😉 but I am not sure if I will be able to do it.
My dad bought a new boat last year.
Yes One Step my spath radar – ‘spradar’ (we’re getting a bit ridiculous on the spath lingo lol) is well attuned now – I notice most the need to get attention in any way possible – good, bad, shameful or embarrassing – doesn’t matter to them does it?
LTL – I tended to trust automatically too – this is something that has now changed rapidly – people have to earn my trust and I take my time in getting to know them now. That was definitely a pitfall for the P – I trusted him not knowing he didn’t deserve it and I for some reason could not revoke my trust in him even knowing he let me down repeatedly. I just couldn’t understand that someone would repeatedly break trust on purpose. I still can’t to be honest. I can understand intellectually but I have a real problem understanding it totally. I have read all of Kathleen’s posts and get something different out of each of them – such a great writer and with such clear understanding of it.
HMS – I don;t know how you are managing with such horrible tactics – I hope my battle doesn;t come to that situation – a shower is definitely needed sometimes to get the filth of them off our skin and out of our system!
Queridita Onestep:
Gracias para tus palabras tan lindas y profundas.
Matt:
I am rejoicing for you and with you. You’re an inspiration for me ~~you not only survived, you are thriving! I’m 56 and maybe it’s not too late for me…
Now about the house burning…since we probably won’t be able to do that I’ve been thinking that if my dad dies before me and assuming he leaves it to me and my sisters…and it’ll be sold…I want to get an exorcist in there to cleanse it before it goes on the market.
Just wanted to throw that out there in case you hadn’t thought of it ; )
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CAmom:
Funny you should mention an exorcist…
The summer of 2008 I took the S-ex to my family’s villa on Mykonos. He promptly ripped off my neighbor’s villa. The entire vacation was a horror. I remember the last day we were there. I was sitting by the pool by myself (S had vanished yet again to surf the web) and looking at all these couples — gay and straight — who were so in love. I started to cry. To say S-ex’s negative energy destroyed a place that has always been special to me is an understatement.
As I told my brother after that trip “the only thing that gives me any comfort is the thought that me? I’ll be coming back to Mykonos? He? Will not.”
Cut to — summer of 2009. I arrived on the island and promptly performed a full blown exorcism on the villa. I mean I did it all — candles, salt across the doorways, everything.
And I had the best time of my life there.
So, yes, I fully endorse performing an exorcism.
Also, I remember you mentioning the roosters on the kitchen wall. My father had a thing about those. He built us a clubhouse which had a rooster over the door. I cannot look at those birds to this day.
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Matt:
That sounds hideous–your S-ex stealing from your neighbors? Mine used to shoplift a lot…and surf the web for gay porn whenever he could–he was compulsive.
So the exorcism worked! My dad’s house has about 50 years of ugly energy crammed in there–it’s as if the walls breathe out pure evil. Weird.
There are white witches around here from Mexico, and Native American healers. It’s gonna be more the egg under the beds, the candles, the palm fronds.
And I’m going to make (ask) (nicely) my sister take those bloody roosters down. Actually…everything in the house should be thrown into a landfill. I don’t want the bad karma of giving it to Goodwill and some innocent family sitting on those sofas, that bed…
CAmom: BONFIRE!!
wow one step. this is intense. i haven’t posted in a bit as i’ve been terribly busy. also some of us and the kids in our group started a website going. took some time to get all into it as we are very waldorfy so not only didn’t the kids learn to read at the same rate as average but they also didn’t have much access to technology for quite some time, took some time to commune with nature in their childhood so we didn’t want to toss them into the technology age until ready. also most are autistic so we are way behind on things.
plus i was reading up on the latest posts and it was way too intense for me to grasp. i feel guilty for coming on with just co-worker issues. my problems are so very small in comparison.
i can’t even begin to imagine what you and some others have gone through or even imagine what kind of childhood that must have been like. to feel something i have to somewhat have to match it to some experience i’ve had. and having nothing that even comes up close to some of the stories posted here leaves me useless to offer anything to folks.
my childhood was very nurturing. my father grew up in israeli kibbutz. so he was literaly raised by an entire village. not much parental abuse could happen when children were in essence ‘everyone’s children’.
My parents did lose all their family members in the holocaust but my grandparents were the only ones to survive from their respective families but they didn’t say much while i grew up. pretty quiet and introverted they were. my parents were open optimistic people who always taught me the world was a good place, living was good, people don’t mean to be evil and all of that. which seemed strange being that they both grew up on stories of family members they will never see or meet because they were slaughtered.
i think that was the closest thing i could to try to match things up to. but it falls empty. i never knew those family members so i don’t feel any loss over them. Also the stories told about them were always very vibrant so can they really be dead anyhow?
strange musings. the only difficult thing i’ve had to overcome is my autism. and that isn’t even half as bad as having a childhood stolen. Shit i stayed a child a lot longer than most, by my condition and by how my parents did what they could to shelter me from the uglyiness of the world for as long as they could.
i would agree it must start at home. growing up the way i did in a nurturing supportive environment i couldn’t really have remained with a psychopath. the world is hectic and chaotic enough. so my home life has to be stable and secure. any deviations would not be tolerated. sure my wife can’t tie her shoe laces, loses speech and bites psychopaths if they come too close, and sniffs folks in public but none of that bothers me.
emotional inflicted trauma i would have a very short tolerence of. i don’t care if i have to tie her shoes for the rest of our lives. i’m loved and valued and supported at home. geez. she even came to this list to find help for me. so i did marry someone who was much like the people who raised me. so alot does start at home i agree.
i think it’s tragic that you didn’t have that. that you didn’t grow up with that. because all people deserve healthy childhoods. and a disrupted childhood seems to follow folks for the rest of their lives.
i am so sorry One step you know you deserved so much better than what you ended up with. i don’t know what to say. it’s just a complete crime what happens to children. and so little is done about it. i read a book recently called “kadish for a child not born” and it’s about a guy who chose not to have children because he could not bring children into a world where the holocaust happened. he cared so much about protecting his children against the evils of the world he didn’t even have them and mourned never having them. i guess it’s easy to have children when they don’t really care about them. me, i worry about this world too and my childen in it. our children today in this cruel world. how are the psychopaths children faring? it would be too painful to contemplate. their young lives destroyed. how will they ever recover their loss of childhood and innocence?
hey look at our website maybe it will keep your mind off things. the kids have been putting all our resource links there. some that can be useful to you maybe or at least interesting. http://www.autisticdimensions.webs.com
Mike
Hello!
So fantastic to find this site. My experience has been relatively short, but devastating in a those few months.
I guess my first thought to let him go ahead and win Darwin Awards for the stupidity that put him back in jail is a best reflex.
I’m NOT that kind., In fact I guess its hard to realize that if I wasn’t so NICE I wouldn’t have happened because there was always an excuse, explanation or tantrum.
Still, its tough and finding others is very helpful to hold on to because its not quite over.