Editor’s note: Lovefraud received this e-mail from a reader who we’ll call “Edna.”
I just had a two-month experience with a guy who, I am convinced, was grooming me for “the big scam.” I had been vigilant after a financial scourge from an ex who was an alcoholic/addict. Recently, however, grieving my mother’s ailing health and in a growing panic from the fires that raged in close proximity to my home, I sought some semblance of levity and allowed myself intimacy with a man, even after becoming very aware of several red flags. He seemed respectable, kind, and generous, was a friend of a friend and he loved the sun, the beach, nice dinners and good music.
I finally ended things last week because I could no longer deny that increasingly tumultuous feeling in my gut. Thankfully, it was soon enough to avoid any financial or emotional fall out. Hopefully this will help your readers.
THE RED FLAGS
- Over the top, grandiose gestures of flattery. Helicopter ride, flowers, wining and dining, wanting to whisk me off to the coast within the first week of dating.
- Tried to move the relationship too fast. He wanted to know if I was his girl within the first week.
- Needy and possessive. He seemed to want to spend all his time with me. Did not seem to have many friends.
- Lied about his financial condition. Bragged about his “properties” in Hawaii and elsewhere, his travels worldwide, how he paid cash for his fancy car. Found out later the properties all belonged to the “soon to be ex” and that she carried the mortgages. All that after claiming honesty was the most important thing to him.
- Called in a crisis. A week into dating, called to tell me he had no one else to talk to, but was in a panic because the “ex” cut off all his cards. I asked how she was in a position to do this. He said she was the primary cardholder. Sensing an imminent request for cash, I ditched him but resumed the connection a week later.
- Overly available – seemed to be available most days during work hours. He claimed to be an investigator who worked on a project basis. I noted that he didn’t return work calls promptly, hence the availability.
- No permanent place of residence. Claimed to be staying at his sister’s place (since 12/08) which was 3 hours in traffic from my place and 2 hours from his “work” place, had no discernable plans to move out (he had four pets and no landlord would take him), called me twice around 8 am from a Motel 6, had an inordinate amount of clothes in his car trunk, and once asked if he could do laundry at my place. His driver’s license was from Hawaii, and still listed the old address from 2008.
- No ATM card. He said he didn’t want one because it was too easy to spend money with it.
- Possible addictions – chainsmoker, potsmoker, binge drinker and lied about not using cocaine. I asked if he ever used cocaine and he said he used to but no longer did. One night after several beers, he wanted to make coffee because “he had no coke here”.
- Attempts to move in. He would leave articles of clothing, dirty laundry next to mine, or his toiletry case in my bathroom when he stayed over. He’d always try to stay “one more night” and would act like a banished peasant when I told him I needed my space. I’d bag his stuff after each stay and made sure he took it with him each time.
- Illegal activity. He tried to get me to stash his pot at my place or break into a vacant beach house and make love by their ocean view living room. I refused.
- Credit Card ploy. He tried to get me to place the b&b room reservations for our trip up the coast on my credit cards, saying he’d pay me later. When I refused, he gave the b&b his credit card number but my home and email address.
- Intrusive requests for confidential information. He asked me twice in different ways, what my mother’s maiden name was. I did not divulge her name. He asked what my billable rates were (I am a professional) and how long the next contract was for.
WHAT I DID DIFFERENTLY
This time around, I did not keep his atrocious requests and behavior a secret. I talked to my friends about it and journalled with rigorous honesty each day, confronting my own behaviors, without judgement. This helped me remain grounded when I’d start floating into romantic fantasy. I continued to read your blogs and website, as well as other books on spotting dangerous men, during those two months. I averted any requests for cash or use of my credit and set boundaries on how much time I spent with him. I continued to include other activites and friends in my life. I did not provide confidential financial information, although I checked my bank and credit card activity daily for fear he may have obtained it surreptitiously. Finally, amazed by the absurdity of having to protect myself from my lover, I ended it.
Stargazer,
I loved your song!! I bookmarked for my song sessions….Here is one I love too: Make sure to watch the end of the video when she sort of collapses into the waiting arms of her good friends, like here on this site!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3pC0hRyBK4
Vision,
LOVED the ending to that video! Very inspirational. I also wish I had her house!
There’s a guy in NJ who pretended to be single (divorced) and dated women for years while his wife (not an “ex”) lived right upstairs in the other apartment of their private home.
He brought single, marriage-hopeful women to his apartment and said he had a “tenant” upstairs whom the women never heard or saw. It turns out she was his wife, and they were still very much married, though living in separate apartments. They were sharing the raising of their five year old child, who he introduced to his dates and he played the con of being the “sensitive, single dad”. He had numerous affairs with single women who had no idea he was still married, and his wife – right upstiars – made sure the ladies never ran into her. He used women for months. One caught on and asked him thru emails for an apology. Guess what – he took her to court asking for a restraining order, claiming harassment. He lost.
Some of red flags i refused to see at the very begining:
– He asked some money to send him, but he did not state full addres (ommited the building number). Since i sent it in registered letter (with number), i told him to go to the post office and ask for it, presenting the number. I told him it was all i had spared. His answer was: No, i can’t, its raining outside. He never went to post office after.
– He asked 1000$ to get some tool (as he said he needed for work), i sent it same day. He did not appear whole week nor sent even a message he got it. After a week, he told me he bought PC instead of tool, cuz his old PC was not good enough
– My dear old friend died and i told him i am very sad. He asked me not to talk about “other” people, we are having enough of our problems to deal with and he doesnt need to get depressed from someone he never knew
– He asked 300$ for “personal need”, i sent it. Later i asked what was that urgent? He said he helped some friend to go to himenoplastic
– He asked to “borrow” 300$ to pay telephone bill, later i got to know he rented chalet in the mountains to celebrate some friends birthday (btw, later i got to know it was a friend with benefits, and they celebrated her BD alone)
– i was in hospital for serious surgery, NOT A SINGLE SMS he sent. Later he said he had no credits
– first time we met in real, after one year of love relation over internet, FIRST DAY he took me to store to buy cloth, of course, exclusive one, and when i said i would like to get something for my daughter, he said – later we will have time. But, that later never came.
– not a single time he did not pay any restaurant bill
List goes on………..
– once, on the street, i gave some money to an very old, crippled beggar. He comented: 5$ ???? Let him work for his food. but same evening, he gave 5$ tip to a waiter in restaurant (of course, from my money) for the bill of 40$, just to leave good impression, although waiter was extremly rude.
– i traveled to his birthday. before travel, sent him money to book a restaurant and organize celebration. We were in hotel, it was 8PM, he told me: try to organize ur evening while i am at the party!!!! I couldnt believe. He went to party ALONE, telling me: i am sure u would not feel pleasant within my unknown friends. Next day he acted as nothing happened
Wow! thornbud, those are some huge red flags!
I guess in hindsight I had very huge ones too. I paid for everything, but it didn’t bother me because I felt my money should go to make him happy, because his happiness made me happy. SICK, SICK, SICK.
– every Christmas i used to send package with gifts for him and all the members of his familly. He never sent even a greeting card
– i sent him beautiful expensive leadder work bag, i payed 600$ plus 100$ shipping costs, black one, with wallet inside with 100$. His reply was: didnt u know i preffer dark blue?
– asked me money to pay his mother hospital bill. later he said she payed from her money, and he bought new tyres for car
– asked 3000$ to pay fee for University. I sent it, it took 5 days to appear to tell me he got it, but he will not attend tests, instead he wanna get a car (used ALL the money i gave him to finish his education and plus to rent a office), later asked money for general repair of car
Whenever i gave him money, he treated me like i did something wrong, and i always felt guilty, asking myself: maybe i did not give him enough.
During that time, i had no money to get medicines i needed, worked two jobs overtime, and was ruining my health.
Just a vent…i feel so stupid and foolish