By James
A few days ago while watching television with my oldest son, he turned to me and said, “You know, Dad, what biggest lie she ever told us was?”
I said, “No, son, I don’t.”
“When she told us nothing was going to change, and how much everything has changed.”
“Guess so, Son. Maybe that was the biggest lie she ever told us.”
I remember that day so well, as if it only happened yesterday. It was the evening of May 22, 2006, between the hours of 7 p.m. and 8:30 p.m. The cold months were ending and summer would soon be here, only this summer would be much more different than my children and I could ever imagine. I just finished with the washing, trying to help out more around the house, after my ex and I had a big fight on Mother’s Day, when she decided not to come home, after telling me about her going to a hair demonstration with her sister and mother. I know now that was a lie, and that she left the state and went to spend the night with the person whom she left her children for. In fact, I was even at this time still trying to work on our relationship, again and again, trying to satisfy her by doing whatever it took to somehow make this relationship work. To somehow save our relationship and save my family. After finishing the washing, my ex out of the blue informed me that she had something to tell me and she believed that I wouldn’t like it, as stated by her own words.
I looked at her and, without her saying one word, I replied, “You met someone and you are leaving us?”
She only shook her head yes to reply.
“Do you love him?” I asked. And she only shook her head yes to reply.
For some reason after she informed me of this, the time she didn’t return home on Mother’s Day came flooding back to me. Her telling me a few days before how her mother and sister wanted her to go with them to some kind of hair event. I remembered calling her cell phone late that evening, the day before Mother’s Day, and asking when she was coming home, and her telling me that she was going to spend the night at her mother’s home and then return home on Mother’s Day. I remembered asking her what time on Sunday would she be getting home, and she informed me that it would be late. I reminded her that it was Mother’s Day, and I wanted to spend some of the day as a family with her and the boys. She told me that she would return home early, and this too was a lie. In fact, she didn’t return home on Mother’s Day until very late that evening.
After telling me about leaving us, and how she would move in and live with her parents (that too was a lie), she told me that she would leave in a week. Now, dear readers, please understand what kind of emotional state I was in, trying hard to deal with this. I told her NO! If she wanted to go she would have to leave tonight, believing this was best for the children, her and myself. I demanded that she get what property she needed and leave as soon as possible. Soon both children were alerted because once again we were fighting. They asked me what was wrong and I informed both children that their mother was leaving us for another man and would be living with her parents. My oldest was 15 at the time and glad that she was leaving, in fact he told me, “Dad, I am glad she is leaving!” Still my other child, 12 years of age, was in tears. My heart was torn…
For some reason my 12-year-old wanted to know the name of the person she was leaving us for. He begged her and I told her to just TELL HIM! The name she gave him was also a lie, which we didn’t learn until a few weeks after she left. But you see, dear readers, that still wasn’t the biggest lie. I also remember when she told us the she was willing to stay for one week before leaving, and my youngest son begging me to let her. Where was she standing while my 12-year-old was begging and crying out to me? She was standing right behind him! Looking at me, while my youngest was begging me, with a slight grin on her face! I remember that grin so well because I saw it many times before on her! She would smile like that when she knew she had me over a barrel, but this time it didn’t work! I replied to him, “No Son, I believe it would be best for her to leave tonight.”
I remember her telling me she wouldn’t leave the house until she used our house phone (I never really knew who she called) to call her mother to tell her she was coming over. So I told her to use her cell phone. She replied that she didn’t have any minute left on the cell to use. This too was a lie, because a couple days later my oldest told me he remembered seeing her add minutes to her cell that day. But still this wasn’t the biggest lie.
Then at one point during this nightmare, she told both the boys, “Nothing was going to change, only your dad and me won’t be living together anymore.”
I, of course, yelled back at her, “THAT IS A LIE AND EVERYTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE!” As I told her this, I was looking straight in her face, and this is what I saw: Nothing!
Dear readers, please allow to me explain. I saw this plain, emotionally detached look on her face many times before, but for some reason, maybe because this would be the last time I would see “the look,” it took a different shape and a new meaning for me.
What I witnessed were two children in emotional turmoil. Me being torn between wanting her to leave and still wanting her to stay. The oldest yelling at me to let her go, “Dad, just let her GO!” He had enough of her and her BS. The other child crying, begging her not to leave and begging me to let her stay for the week she requested! I, too, was torn, but knew the best thing at this moment was to get her out as quickly as possible, believing her lies about living with her parents. I witnessed three people in anguish. But in her blank expression I saw absolutely nothing! No emotions, no feeling! No empathy or compassion for her own children. No tears from her! No regrets from her! I witnessed from her not one single emotional expression, other then that grin, when she was standing behind my youngest son who was begging me to let her stay for one week! I saw nothing in those eyes!
At the time I didn’t know what a sociopath was. Never knew anything about people that suffer from personality disorders. Narcissistic behavior was just a word I heard from a movie I watched. A borderline personality disorder? What was that? I knew nothing about any of these terms. So why, when I saw her expression during this time did it chill me to the bone and throw me for an emotional loop I can never explain? Out of all the fights we had during our 17 years together, how does this one stand out so clear in my mind? The reason I believe, dear readers, is because I looked into the eyes of a sociopath and saw the deep abyss of someone who could tell her own children the biggest lie, and not even blink. I saw in those eyes nothing, empty of any emotional connection between her children and herself. I SAW NOTHING! I SAW THE EYES OF A SOCIOPATH FOR THE FIRST TIME, BUT THIS TIME I REALLY TRULY SAW IT AND REMEMBER IT! EVEN TO THIS DAY!
James, I can only shake my head and wonder the same thing.
My P-son wrote a 10 page letter to a minister friend of our family’s and denounced us as being “unChristian” because we did not give him “UNconditional love” after what he had tried to do to have me (and the rest of the famly) killed.
The minister sent me a copy of the letter P-son wrote and the reply he wrote to P-son. I kept thinking THE NERVE. He thinks that WE OWE him everything and that no matter what he does to us, we must PRETEND IT DIDN’T HAPPEN.
It seems to me that they all want to PRETEND NOTHING HAPPENED. Because to THEM nothing did happen. They were NOT hurt, so their actions are not even memorable or importnat, and YOUR PAIN doesn’t register on them so they don’t remember it either.
James, I don’t think we will ever fully understand the way they think, we can only sort of guess at what makes them tick by how they act vs what they say. It doesn’t make sense to us because we don’t have the same “value system” that they do. It is like they are a diffrent species and real communication is impossible.
James: Why don’t you just tell your EX the truth… that’s she’s selfish, self centered, self absorbed … and to open her eyes once and for all and see that there are millions of people in the world … and not just HER and that life doesn’t not revolve around her, her, her, her, her.
I would just type it out and and copy it a thousand times over … distribute copies of same message to everyone in her life … and every time she says or does something stupid (aka selfish) they can just hand the same paper to her with the same words on it.
Peace.
James I hear ya. That’s haunting to you and me because we know what it would mean to us. But to her, it was just a phrase that popped into her head and she thought it would be a good thing to say to get pity. I would seriously doubt if she remembers saying it.
I was surprised to find out my first husband had told everyone he knows that I “took” and “kept” his kids away from him. These are the same kids that he can’t be bothered to see or write to. Not even so much as a Christmas card. And of course he can’t pay child support.. if I so much as mention it he starts insisting they aren’t really his kids.. this makes me so sick that I realize all over again that it’s much better not to have support for them, it’s well worth it just to have him out of our lives.
kat: I leant my EX $15,000 to pay his ex-wife all the back and future child support. For years, I thought she was paid in full … to find out this pompous arse spent it on horses (2), saddles, a down payment on a condo, wined and dined himself and other women (BUT, told me he was faithful), stopped by the mortgage on the house that he lived in and I took the mortgage out, bilked up my credit cards to their limits … left me with no money, took me for over $250,000.00, left me with liens on my home that I live in. Married some unsuspecting women off of a dating site … and she too, is living his lies. I hope and pray that she has a good support system in her life, like I do.
The moral of the story, no matter who tells it, they lie, they steal, they cheat on us (lust), and go through the entire cycle of vices … never living a righteous life … and they repeat this cycle with everyone that comes into their paths. They are the lie… all of them that believe in their own egos.
Peace.
Oh, and P.S. My EX doesn’t pay his child support payments, doesn’t see or speak or write to his children … lives off of women as he pretends to love us…. to be getting his business off the ground … which we are his business, lying and scamming us for what he can get … then moves on to his next victim and next victim. We ARE a stepping stone in their lives, each and every single one of us … so they can get and do what they selfishly want.
Wini
“James: Why don’t you just tell your EX the truth” that’s she’s selfish, self centered, self absorbed ” and to open her eyes once and for all and see that there are millions of people in the world ” and not just HER and that life doesn’t not revolve around her, her, her, her, her.”
The reason was because I knew her well enough that the truth isn’t what she wanted. What she really wanted was some type of compassion from me. Some kind of understanding and “sugar” coated response from me. Some type of agreement and/or confirmation that she “really” believe this. Having learned to disagree with her is like walking into the dragons cave. And really I didn’t want to fight anymore. Funny but we (my son and ) talk about this often and how much we would just agree with her in hopes of not getting into a very long long fight. You see Wini, we got so tried of all the verbal abuse that we would do anything to stop the fighting with her even before it began and yes that mean even lying to her. I and my children have found that some these people ask us questions, they are not looking for answers. What they want is a way to get inside you and start to manipulate you and confuse you. How many of you readers heard this statement or question from your ex.. “I just want to talk with you” “Why won’t you talk with me?”..
These are not questions nor statements… These are hooks to draw you back in!!!! Please don’t fall for them…
Well off to church hope all have a nice day!!
Wini
one other thing is that we have NC from this person which is going on 3 years and I can assure you that we want no contact with her… That part of our life’s is over and done with! Thank God!
I heard that question all the time “can we talk?” “Why won’t you talk to me?” And his voice would change into that poor pitiful little boy. Yes I would talk to him for hour’s about what can we do to make this work. But he was just putting in hooks to win me back – get me back on his side – take the focus off of him and put it on us/me. Six months NC – I have not tried to find him – glad he is gone – but I want to know if he is still at the same job as he was – if he is still with his new victim – still in the state. Should I try to find out without him knowing? It would do me good if he has changed job’s, left the new victim or the state. Should I just leave it alone? Havent heard a thing in 6 months – I dont want the toxic thing back – I just want to know if he is still around.?
I am tired of worrying if I will bump into him somewhere – tired of looking down the road when I here a vehicle coming up the gravel road – is it him? no it’s not – well good -well hell where is he? whats he doing? maybe he went back to Arkansas – maybe he is dead – or maybe he is in love and happy?
somebody just shoot me and get me out of my misery
henry: he’s not happy. he’s probably not dead. i worry about running into my ex too — with his half-my-age pregnant girlfriend, but i have decided that i will make believe he’s not even there. even one word or a look and i know he will ensnare me again. i am decidedly NOT willing to allow that to happen.
i get curious as well. is he REALLY having a baby or was that a lie too? did he really leave his wife and if not, does she know he’s having another baby with another female (that would be the second time he did that to his wife)? is he happy?
i have the answer to all these questions. the answer is: i don’t give a flying f#@.......%. because whatever you think about you give power to. i refuse to give him one more ounce of power in this world. he is already too powerful. he is already too dangerous. he is already given energy and power from the hundreds of people he still has under his control.
the only time i feel like someone should shoot me and put me out of my misery is when i give my thoughts (and therefore my precious energy) over to him. every time i think of him, i quickly get off my fat behind and do something, read something, get on the computer — anything not to give myself over to him again. in any way. NC isn’t just a physical thing. in my mind, it’s not contacting them in your heart or mind either. they are toxic in so many ways that i find the mere thought of him makes me unsettled now.
i’m enjoying my peace too much to go there for very long any more. the lack of drama, abuse, deceit and theft is precious. i know what i want now and it sure isn’t him. sure i miss him sometimes. sure i wish i could feel the ”love” again. sure i miss the incredible sex. sure i miss the companionship.
problem is, what went along with all of it was mutant abuse. and i ain’t no mutant!
TOWANDA!!!