By James
A few days ago while watching television with my oldest son, he turned to me and said, “You know, Dad, what biggest lie she ever told us was?”
I said, “No, son, I don’t.”
“When she told us nothing was going to change, and how much everything has changed.”
“Guess so, Son. Maybe that was the biggest lie she ever told us.”
I remember that day so well, as if it only happened yesterday. It was the evening of May 22, 2006, between the hours of 7 p.m. and 8:30 p.m. The cold months were ending and summer would soon be here, only this summer would be much more different than my children and I could ever imagine. I just finished with the washing, trying to help out more around the house, after my ex and I had a big fight on Mother’s Day, when she decided not to come home, after telling me about her going to a hair demonstration with her sister and mother. I know now that was a lie, and that she left the state and went to spend the night with the person whom she left her children for. In fact, I was even at this time still trying to work on our relationship, again and again, trying to satisfy her by doing whatever it took to somehow make this relationship work. To somehow save our relationship and save my family. After finishing the washing, my ex out of the blue informed me that she had something to tell me and she believed that I wouldn’t like it, as stated by her own words.
I looked at her and, without her saying one word, I replied, “You met someone and you are leaving us?”
She only shook her head yes to reply.
“Do you love him?” I asked. And she only shook her head yes to reply.
For some reason after she informed me of this, the time she didn’t return home on Mother’s Day came flooding back to me. Her telling me a few days before how her mother and sister wanted her to go with them to some kind of hair event. I remembered calling her cell phone late that evening, the day before Mother’s Day, and asking when she was coming home, and her telling me that she was going to spend the night at her mother’s home and then return home on Mother’s Day. I remembered asking her what time on Sunday would she be getting home, and she informed me that it would be late. I reminded her that it was Mother’s Day, and I wanted to spend some of the day as a family with her and the boys. She told me that she would return home early, and this too was a lie. In fact, she didn’t return home on Mother’s Day until very late that evening.
After telling me about leaving us, and how she would move in and live with her parents (that too was a lie), she told me that she would leave in a week. Now, dear readers, please understand what kind of emotional state I was in, trying hard to deal with this. I told her NO! If she wanted to go she would have to leave tonight, believing this was best for the children, her and myself. I demanded that she get what property she needed and leave as soon as possible. Soon both children were alerted because once again we were fighting. They asked me what was wrong and I informed both children that their mother was leaving us for another man and would be living with her parents. My oldest was 15 at the time and glad that she was leaving, in fact he told me, “Dad, I am glad she is leaving!” Still my other child, 12 years of age, was in tears. My heart was torn…
For some reason my 12-year-old wanted to know the name of the person she was leaving us for. He begged her and I told her to just TELL HIM! The name she gave him was also a lie, which we didn’t learn until a few weeks after she left. But you see, dear readers, that still wasn’t the biggest lie. I also remember when she told us the she was willing to stay for one week before leaving, and my youngest son begging me to let her. Where was she standing while my 12-year-old was begging and crying out to me? She was standing right behind him! Looking at me, while my youngest was begging me, with a slight grin on her face! I remember that grin so well because I saw it many times before on her! She would smile like that when she knew she had me over a barrel, but this time it didn’t work! I replied to him, “No Son, I believe it would be best for her to leave tonight.”
I remember her telling me she wouldn’t leave the house until she used our house phone (I never really knew who she called) to call her mother to tell her she was coming over. So I told her to use her cell phone. She replied that she didn’t have any minute left on the cell to use. This too was a lie, because a couple days later my oldest told me he remembered seeing her add minutes to her cell that day. But still this wasn’t the biggest lie.
Then at one point during this nightmare, she told both the boys, “Nothing was going to change, only your dad and me won’t be living together anymore.”
I, of course, yelled back at her, “THAT IS A LIE AND EVERYTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE!” As I told her this, I was looking straight in her face, and this is what I saw: Nothing!
Dear readers, please allow to me explain. I saw this plain, emotionally detached look on her face many times before, but for some reason, maybe because this would be the last time I would see “the look,” it took a different shape and a new meaning for me.
What I witnessed were two children in emotional turmoil. Me being torn between wanting her to leave and still wanting her to stay. The oldest yelling at me to let her go, “Dad, just let her GO!” He had enough of her and her BS. The other child crying, begging her not to leave and begging me to let her stay for the week she requested! I, too, was torn, but knew the best thing at this moment was to get her out as quickly as possible, believing her lies about living with her parents. I witnessed three people in anguish. But in her blank expression I saw absolutely nothing! No emotions, no feeling! No empathy or compassion for her own children. No tears from her! No regrets from her! I witnessed from her not one single emotional expression, other then that grin, when she was standing behind my youngest son who was begging me to let her stay for one week! I saw nothing in those eyes!
At the time I didn’t know what a sociopath was. Never knew anything about people that suffer from personality disorders. Narcissistic behavior was just a word I heard from a movie I watched. A borderline personality disorder? What was that? I knew nothing about any of these terms. So why, when I saw her expression during this time did it chill me to the bone and throw me for an emotional loop I can never explain? Out of all the fights we had during our 17 years together, how does this one stand out so clear in my mind? The reason I believe, dear readers, is because I looked into the eyes of a sociopath and saw the deep abyss of someone who could tell her own children the biggest lie, and not even blink. I saw in those eyes nothing, empty of any emotional connection between her children and herself. I SAW NOTHING! I SAW THE EYES OF A SOCIOPATH FOR THE FIRST TIME, BUT THIS TIME I REALLY TRULY SAW IT AND REMEMBER IT! EVEN TO THIS DAY!
Moraira,
You have him by the balls now! The FORGED signature is a CRIME against the STATE not just against you.
Tell him to leave, you don’t care where, or you will turn him in to be PROSECUTED FOR FORGERY &/OR THEFT.
Your daughter is hurting and the only way for her to feel safe, I think (justmy opinion) is for him to be GONE.
I disagree in getting him to “make sorry” which is not true. She needs to SEE THE TRUTH not phony sorry to pretend he is sorry. I made my son “be sorry” to his granfather when he was dying and he did, but my step dad saw through it. I wish now I had not done that.
I would get her into counseling, and you too for that matter. I think it will help you, she is obviously suffering. If you can get the bastard out of the house with the FRAUD thing, that is a good “club” to use on his nasty head. (((hugs))))
Moraira: Things arent going to get any better while he is there. What is the down payment you are mentioning? For an apt (flat) or for another house? Why can’t he come up with the money? Is he working? Does he have somewhere to stay until he comes up with the money?
Oh My God, he forged your name to get access to your money? Moraira. Perhaps you should cancel that account and get another. What happens if you cut off all access to your money? What does he do then? Well, maybe he’ll find someone else to sponge off of. I cut off my money to my x and he left..to another woman. She was in the picture the entire time so he wasn’t going to starve. He knew where to get a free meal.
As far as him leaving, think of it this way, you can have him stay and go through this crap the rest of your life, or you can go through a few months of sorrow over the loss and finally not hurt yourself anymore.
And Moraira, I know the site you are referring to with the wink thing. Maybe that is a good thing. Maybe someone else will take him off your hands!!
Hey Moraira,
Pack His Bags. Put all his clothes in sutcases, his personal belongings in boxes. He’ll say, “what’s up?” Then you can tell him.
I wonder and Oxdrover
He has already forged the mortgage last year twice, it is a joint mortgage and he forged my signature to increase the mortgage and get equity out of the house, I found it out by accident, he says its because I withold money from him and make him desperate.
I threatened him then to get out or I would report him but he just laughed and said do it. He knows I dont want the embarrassment for my daughter or me. He has embarrassed me so many times.
If I pack his bags he’ll get nasty and I dont really know what he is capable of if he feels his position is threatened, last time he went N mother was here and he does seem a bit scared of her so he went. I dont want her here again.
Moraira,
The thing is you are making EXCUSES to not do what you know you need to do. Get him out.
You say you don’t want to be “embarassed”—why would YOU be embarassed because of HIS CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.?? That is enabling.
He commits a crime and you keep it quiet so you won’t be embarassed. That is definitely enabling.
Stand up to him, tell him to get out or you will call the law. Period.
You do not need to pack his bags, HE CAN PACK HIS OWN BAGS, are you his MAID?
oK YOU DON’T WANT YOUR MOTHER THERE, THAT’S GREAT, DON’T TELL HER YOU ARE THROWING HIM OUT.
TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR OWN LIFE, OR CONTINUE TO LET HIM CONTROL IT. You are the only one who can make that decision or do it. I cannot “save you” and no one else can save you either. It is a “do it yourself” project.
This is BLUNT, but “sugar coating” it won’t make it any more palatable. When you are REALLY READY you will do it, and sometimes it takes some “trial runs” to get the courage up to DO it, but sweetie, you are the only one who can do it.
Imade excuses and excuses why I couldn’t do this and I couldn’t do that, but when I finally made the decision to “shit or get off the pot” and DID something, the relief was remarkable. Straddling that fence is painful. (((hugs))))
Moraira: He is abusing you because he knows he has you trapped.
You have a car. Do you have any money left for a down payment on a flat? Once you are out of there, you can file divorce. If the house goes on the market, can you at least get enough out of the sale to wash out the mortgage loan?
What happens if you leave and are paying rent and cant pay the mortgage. Then the bank forcloses. You will lose the house and have bad credit for a long time. What if you leave and tell him he can have the house? Sign it over to him! It will be his headache and his credit will be sunk…not yours when he doesn’t pay the mortgage. Then you would be free to have control over your money and peace.
Where are your sisters? Close by? Will one of them help? I have 4 sisters and always know there are 2 that would take me in for a little while for an emergency situation. They wouldn’t make me pay rent and once you’re away from the situation, you can think clearer.
Moraira
The beginning of the end for me and my ex was when I started laying down strict ground rules. I told her because once again she refused to marry me (even thru we had children together) I didn’t have any legal responsibility concerning her needs but would always provide for my children. I told her to get a “real” job. Stop “stealing” money from my account and don’t ask me to bail you out the next time you over draw from your banking account. I stopped trying to solve all her problems. I just couldn’t take all the fighting anymore and more then once told her if she didn’t stop verbally abusing me that I would call the police. Of course each time it got to this point my son would beg me not too and she would simple unplug the phone jack… In short I HAD ENOUGH! And told her so. Now at the time I didn’t do it to lose her, I just wanted her to start taking some kind of responsibility for the children and if she wanted this relationship to work on that too. Well, BIG MISTAKE!!!
She was gone in less then 6 months. Yes dear readers that’s all it took.. 6 months and she soon found another person to move in with. I guess marry her and have him divorce his wife.. God these people move FAST!!! Faster then a speeding bullet! Man it blew my mind and still does.. So that I have learned that whenever we start asking them to take responsibility and accountability it will only mean The beginning of the end for that relationship…
This is the protocol. Once their house of straw starts burning what do they do? Well just go out and build another one. What really “burns” me is that there are people in their house of straw which of course they could care less! Plus they themselves are always the ones that started this fire to burn..
James: You are so right. For 2 years I begged my x to help with bills. He always had an excuse or say, ok, i’ll take care of it. NOT. So, I pulled the plug on the money. I got so cheap at the grocery store. We used to go grocery shopping and he filled the cart with all the stuff him & his son liked..double at that when stuff was on sale, on my tab. So I said, nope, can’t afford that this week. Sorry. I got on the phone to the cable company to cancel cable TV. I complained about leaving extra lights on. I turned off the A/C in 90 degree weather…sorry, can’t afford the electric bill! And so on. The last straw was when I had to take out a personal loan to pay the monthly mortgage. Wow. He looked at me cooly and said, “it’s time.” He already had another woman set up in another home so he went there for a free meal. Seamless.
They will always find another sucker.
Moraira
“He is blaming me again the mess with his bank account, one minute he admits its his fault and then twists it all to blame me.”
Everything is your fault in his mind…
Your fault about his personal finances
Your fault he is on the dating sites
Your fault you can’t give him money to move
Your fault that his daughter may end up hating him
Your fault that he cheats (or will cheat on you) on you…
My ex told me exactly the same thing!!
“James, you are the cause of ALL my problems”
Members that is a direct quote from her to me!!!