Editor’s note: Lovefraud received the following letter from the reader who posts as “SocioSibs.” She asks, “what would you do?”
What if you have reason to believe that someone you know is a serious danger to others? You’ve known this person almost all your life, grew up together in the same family.
Until recently, this person had a huge menagerie of animals housed on an acre of land, including a horse, 13 dogs, 5 cats, turkeys & peacocks and possibly a parrot or 2. Yet when she abandoned the property, all but 2 dogs she took with her disappeared in a span of just weeks.
Subsequent to this person’s latest move (one of 25 or so over a half-century), you found a couple of canine carcasses hidden behind a barn and miscellaneous skeletal remains strewn about the former property, which conjured a memory of walking in on this person during very early puberty as she was holding a live wild bird over the bathroom sink with a knife to decapitate it, exclaiming upon the surprise encounter that she couldn’t cure it so was putting the poor creature out of its misery.
Then you locate childhood friends and others from this person’s past, learning that one witnessed her strangling or drowning numerous animals, with that same explanation, since age 12. Another witness tells of repeated torture of animals, including punching & kicking her horse (one of 2 that a boyfriend bought her), savagely beating her dog daily, and crushing the skulls of kittens between her fingers and tossing them out of her car onto the ground, all during her mid-teen years.
You recall visions of her often hitting & kicking family pets, to the horror and pain of her parent and sibling, who tried but never could completely curtail it. And then you find a multitude of accounts from witnesses and public records of this person accusing multiple people of stalking her from age 13 through recent years, along with reports this person has made of others poisoning her plants & pets, some of whom died as a result, which stirs memories of childhood pets that died mysteriously, healthy pets whom this person hypothesized at the time must have been poisoned by neighbors or stalkers.
An ex-spouse reports that when divorce became imminent she cooked him a “special” meal, after which he became quite ill and came down with a severe rash all over his body, never experienced before or since. Concurrently this person was attempting to entice a former lover to relocate half-way across the country, unbeknownst to the would-be-again lover that this person was also accusing him of stalking and threatening to kill her due to his mad obsession.
This person has a now-young-adult offspring who has been plagued by mysterious illnesses since infancy, and ended up in hospital emergency rooms more often than most people who live to ripe old ages. One disease that was actually diagnosed was touted to some as the first case in the state, but she may have had access to the bacteria while a biological science student at a major university in the early 90s (for which someone else paid and from which she did not graduate), prior to the meticulous tracking these days of contagious pathogens. And you hear that her ex-spouse independently came to the same conclusion as you as to how your niece contracted it.
You recollect a tale she told of a male roommate brandishing a knife with the person’s then 10-year-old child present, and another when the child was 12 and sexually molested by someone’s 15-year-old son right in the next room.
You are aware of at least 2 occasions when Child Protective Services were called on this person, but in each case she wriggled out of charges. Then, when you contact CPS yourself to inquire, the intake worker on the other end can’t tell you what, if any, reports there may be that have not resulted in convictions. However, seeing it for himself on the computer screen, he urges you to call protective services in the state where this person’s child now resides, even asking you to hold on while he looks up the phone number for you and stresses that you speak with a supervisor there if you don’t get results during the initial call.
Indeed, other authorities whom you contact say they can’t do anything now that this person is no longer within their jurisdiction, while provoking guilt for your not having done something about her sooner. Some suggest you at least try to do something where she is now, recommending entities to contact, even if it’s too little too late.
This person has vilified anyone who could threaten to expose her, portrays herself as a persecuted, sweet, innocent victim of her targeted victims, has been abusing & killing animals since childhood but has come to be known as an “animal whisperer.” You have evidence that she’s been poisoning animals and possibly humans for years, has been lying & stealing and casting blame on others since early childhood, with a criminal record for larceny since at least turning 18 (juvenile records are sealed), and a felony arson record.
Then you find out that this person has fled to another state, welcomed with open arms by family into a home where a young relative resides, knowing that they implicitly trust and feel very sorry for her, for “all she’s been through.”
What if you, too, have defended, protected, and advocated for this person all through the years, because you, too, have been blinded by the bizarre stories she fabricates and sympathy she so ably elicits? And you staunchly held onto the lifelong belief that every person has a heart. But now you can no longer ignore that truly innocent people actually are, and always have been, in danger.
What if this person, knowing you could blow her cover, preemptively already got deep into the heads of the rest of your family and convinced them that you are crazy and evil and out to get her, even though there’s not a shred of substantiation of her claims, but she’s mastered the art of manipulation and has skillfully succeeded in obliterating your credibility & character?
What if you knew all this and so much more, and this person were still on the loose seriously harming others and getting away with it, invited and naively trusted to be alone around those most vulnerable, such as children and animals? What if, having been the most consistently present over this person’s lifetime, with nobody else recognizing the danger or mustering the courage or possessing comprehensive information, you find you’re probably the best candidate to piece together the puzzle so that others might see the whole picture, thereby alerting & enabling them to protect themselves, too? Would you speak up?
Now add that what got your investigative ball rolling was the death of the parent that resulted in the threat of losing your home. Because of a fluke when the parent helped save the sibling from losing her home several years ago as aftermath of a divorce, the deed ended up in the parent’s name, so that now both siblings own it 50-50 because there was no will. The sibling can file a legal claim by which she may possibly regain title to her house, but with the family turned against her, they will likely help this person fight the sibling in court, viewing this person as the tragic victim of a greedy sibling.
Suppose this person attempted to get a sizeable advance of her presumed inheritance, prior to creditors being paid, and prior to the estate administrator discovering that she destroyed what she had been deceiving the family as being the largest asset — the house she lived in that the parent bought her and made all the monthly mortgage payments on (in addition to paying most or all her other bills, even restitution & probation fees), so that now it’s worth less than the remaining note due on it. Third consecutive house that she irreparably demolished—the first being the one she burned down; as opposed to the sibling who originally purchased her own house, for the most part paid her own mortgage, whose house appreciated in value, and who certainly never caused destruction to anyone’s property.
Then it turned out that there will be no inheritance because this person depleted or destroyed all the parent’s financial resources already. The only asset left of any value is the sibling’s house (a small cottage with 50K equity in a low-middle income subdivision, compared to her 4-bedroom 2 bath on an acre that she ruined), while outstanding debts leave the entire estate at a deficit that can force a sale by creditors, debts that can be traced back primarily to this person. Despite these irrefutable facts, this person has convinced the family that the sibling is just trying to take everything, even though there is nothing to take. All the sibling wanted was to keep her own house that she bought herself 2 decades ago and has been inhabiting, maintaining & improving, and caring for ever since.
This all started as a pursuit of the sibling to rightfully keep her home, make it a fair fight, sibling vs. sibling, without the whole family against the one sibling. Now that so much devastating new evidence has since come to light, it has grown into a pursuit to enlighten family members so that they can protect themselves, including the sibling’s own life and that of her child, from this person.
At least one family member admonished that, under the circumstances, that makes you, the sibling, the worst candidate to speak up, condemnable for even considering it, no matter how much you’ve discovered that’s led you to acknowledge that this person is very dangerous and that people — including you and your child — are in harm’s way, because it only makes you appear to have a less than noble motive.
What, if anything, would you do?
Learn more: How to report your abuser’s crimes so the police take you seriously
Lovefraud originally posted this article on Oct. 27, 2010.
Hello all;
I just wanted to share that I was a victim of “gaslighting” late last night. Just when I was at peace and enjoying life, this idiot calls me and I answered half asleep. It almost felt like an ambush and I was being pushed to the ground. So he starts with, “baby I am confused, did you break up with me or are we just having a fight. I didn’t answer as it took me a minute to realize that I had him on the phone. I told him I didn’t want to speak to him. He continued with “honey, but I care about you that is why I am calling, unfortunately for me I do love you” (bs) — I told him I was not interested in having a relationship with a liar and someone to whom I didn’t matter, I told him I was done. — He went on and on about how I was wrong, then he tells me” honey, you are the one that has a problem with me” (Duh)” I accept you the way you are with all your faults, I don’t even mind that at 40 yrs old you haven’t amounted to much, you are still an administrative assistant and maybe that is all that you will ever be, ( as if there is something wrong with that ) but honey that is ok. You know that I will always have better jobs than you and that I will always make more money, which is ok honey. Don’t feel bad because you can’t get a better paying job, or because no one is calling you back on your resume, or because you can’t get past a phone interview. Once we live together I don’t have a problem with helping you out, however, I will not support your son.” —- ( I thought to myself this is my chance) — so I said, then we have a problem because my son will be with me and whether you want to or not you will be supporting him so I guess this won’t work out for us. I continued with “I also don’t want to be stepmom to your daughter. By this time, he had already ruined my sleep and I was furious, he had won”bastard. I told him I didn’t want to have anything with him and was being very hateful towards him and his daughter. He said in a very calm way” honey, that is not very Christian of you, I know if you were face to face with God, you would be ashamed of what you are saying and you know I am right.” As for the awful things you are saying about me and my daughter I know you don’t feel that way you are just in a rage or on your rag — (bastard.) — by this time I am exhausted, I have given up” he ended that call by saying, apologize to me for all that you have said and tell me that you love. (I hate this man with a passion)—- I totally relapsed. They are sooooo exhausting. I need to make him lose interest, I just want him to find someone else. Back to square one.
My god how similarly all these spaths speak. The same lack of passion, the same egotism, the same nonsense.
If they were mute they would be a bit more tolerable.
Eva,
I like how succinctly you describe it.
But even if they were mute they would just jump up and down like monkeys in a rage. They always have to cause drama.
Skylar,
of course everything in them is intolerable, except the dick.
If they were mute they would be more openly aggressive i suppose since they could not exercise their dear psychological manipulation.
Alina,
sorry about that episode. He got you when you were half asleep. That’s when my brother got me and I ended up in jail for 2 days. I’m sure he would have killed me if he thought there would have been no consequences. As it was, putting me in jail, got him no consequences so he got away with it.
They are DANGEROUS. They are not just an emotional irritant. You DO live in a war zone if there is a spath on your trail so you might as well accept that and create the safety you need until you can be rid of him.
Since you can’t go without sleep, you need to set up your phone to go to voice mail. He can’t create drama if he can’t contact you. Get another phone # (cell or voip) to give to people who might need to contact you in emergency at night.
The only way to get rid of a spath is to bore him. You must never show any emotion. NONE. Play dead, that’s what mice do when a cat is tormenting them. If they run, the chase is on and the drama begins.
Eva,
mine had a very small dick. Not really worth much.
I do have a theory that they are acting out because they don’t have words to explain how bad they feel. So instead they make us feel bad. Yuck.
Skylar,
do you really think they feel so unhappy? I observed mine was never completely satisfied but he didn’t seem unhappy.
I wouldn’t call it unhappy.
The feelings that they try to make us feel, are the feelings that they feel.
They feel worthless, ugly, unloved, RESENTFUL, envious, hated, reviled.
So they try to make us feel that way and they end up even more worthless, ugly unloved, resentful, envious, hated and reviled than ever before!
LOL! it’s spathalogical!
Skylar, with such a big ego they have are they going to feel worthless, ugly, etc.? Envious i observed it he was, and resentful too, and unloved he said he felt because i didn’t attend him properly, that is like a baby.
But yes, i suppose they must notice there’s something that for them is missed.
Do you know? Once we were in a funfair and i observed he was a bit reluctant to go into the roller coaster and others which increases adrenaline in normal people. I realized it was because he felt no any anxiety or fear. None. They know they lack some emotions and they know people sooner or later realize it.
Sky and Eva, I observed the same thing: my psychopath was envious and, towards the end, tried to belittle me, his wife and others to make himself feel superior. But he didn’t seem unhappy. He seemed pleased with himself and his life but at the same time dissatisfied, wanting more, more, more from OTHERS, not from himself. He thinks he’s perfect but, after the initial honeymoon phase wears off and the devaluation begins, nobody else meets his standards. That, plus the constant boredom with everyone and everything, makes him feel insatiably unfulfilled, despite his extremely high opinion of himself.