Editor’s note: Lovefraud received the following letter from the reader who posts as “SocioSibs.” She asks, “what would you do?”
What if you have reason to believe that someone you know is a serious danger to others? You’ve known this person almost all your life, grew up together in the same family.
Until recently, this person had a huge menagerie of animals housed on an acre of land, including a horse, 13 dogs, 5 cats, turkeys & peacocks and possibly a parrot or 2. Yet when she abandoned the property, all but 2 dogs she took with her disappeared in a span of just weeks.
Subsequent to this person’s latest move (one of 25 or so over a half-century), you found a couple of canine carcasses hidden behind a barn and miscellaneous skeletal remains strewn about the former property, which conjured a memory of walking in on this person during very early puberty as she was holding a live wild bird over the bathroom sink with a knife to decapitate it, exclaiming upon the surprise encounter that she couldn’t cure it so was putting the poor creature out of its misery.
Then you locate childhood friends and others from this person’s past, learning that one witnessed her strangling or drowning numerous animals, with that same explanation, since age 12. Another witness tells of repeated torture of animals, including punching & kicking her horse (one of 2 that a boyfriend bought her), savagely beating her dog daily, and crushing the skulls of kittens between her fingers and tossing them out of her car onto the ground, all during her mid-teen years.
You recall visions of her often hitting & kicking family pets, to the horror and pain of her parent and sibling, who tried but never could completely curtail it. And then you find a multitude of accounts from witnesses and public records of this person accusing multiple people of stalking her from age 13 through recent years, along with reports this person has made of others poisoning her plants & pets, some of whom died as a result, which stirs memories of childhood pets that died mysteriously, healthy pets whom this person hypothesized at the time must have been poisoned by neighbors or stalkers.
An ex-spouse reports that when divorce became imminent she cooked him a “special” meal, after which he became quite ill and came down with a severe rash all over his body, never experienced before or since. Concurrently this person was attempting to entice a former lover to relocate half-way across the country, unbeknownst to the would-be-again lover that this person was also accusing him of stalking and threatening to kill her due to his mad obsession.
This person has a now-young-adult offspring who has been plagued by mysterious illnesses since infancy, and ended up in hospital emergency rooms more often than most people who live to ripe old ages. One disease that was actually diagnosed was touted to some as the first case in the state, but she may have had access to the bacteria while a biological science student at a major university in the early 90s (for which someone else paid and from which she did not graduate), prior to the meticulous tracking these days of contagious pathogens. And you hear that her ex-spouse independently came to the same conclusion as you as to how your niece contracted it.
You recollect a tale she told of a male roommate brandishing a knife with the person’s then 10-year-old child present, and another when the child was 12 and sexually molested by someone’s 15-year-old son right in the next room.
You are aware of at least 2 occasions when Child Protective Services were called on this person, but in each case she wriggled out of charges. Then, when you contact CPS yourself to inquire, the intake worker on the other end can’t tell you what, if any, reports there may be that have not resulted in convictions. However, seeing it for himself on the computer screen, he urges you to call protective services in the state where this person’s child now resides, even asking you to hold on while he looks up the phone number for you and stresses that you speak with a supervisor there if you don’t get results during the initial call.
Indeed, other authorities whom you contact say they can’t do anything now that this person is no longer within their jurisdiction, while provoking guilt for your not having done something about her sooner. Some suggest you at least try to do something where she is now, recommending entities to contact, even if it’s too little too late.
This person has vilified anyone who could threaten to expose her, portrays herself as a persecuted, sweet, innocent victim of her targeted victims, has been abusing & killing animals since childhood but has come to be known as an “animal whisperer.” You have evidence that she’s been poisoning animals and possibly humans for years, has been lying & stealing and casting blame on others since early childhood, with a criminal record for larceny since at least turning 18 (juvenile records are sealed), and a felony arson record.
Then you find out that this person has fled to another state, welcomed with open arms by family into a home where a young relative resides, knowing that they implicitly trust and feel very sorry for her, for “all she’s been through.”
What if you, too, have defended, protected, and advocated for this person all through the years, because you, too, have been blinded by the bizarre stories she fabricates and sympathy she so ably elicits? And you staunchly held onto the lifelong belief that every person has a heart. But now you can no longer ignore that truly innocent people actually are, and always have been, in danger.
What if this person, knowing you could blow her cover, preemptively already got deep into the heads of the rest of your family and convinced them that you are crazy and evil and out to get her, even though there’s not a shred of substantiation of her claims, but she’s mastered the art of manipulation and has skillfully succeeded in obliterating your credibility & character?
What if you knew all this and so much more, and this person were still on the loose seriously harming others and getting away with it, invited and naively trusted to be alone around those most vulnerable, such as children and animals? What if, having been the most consistently present over this person’s lifetime, with nobody else recognizing the danger or mustering the courage or possessing comprehensive information, you find you’re probably the best candidate to piece together the puzzle so that others might see the whole picture, thereby alerting & enabling them to protect themselves, too? Would you speak up?
Now add that what got your investigative ball rolling was the death of the parent that resulted in the threat of losing your home. Because of a fluke when the parent helped save the sibling from losing her home several years ago as aftermath of a divorce, the deed ended up in the parent’s name, so that now both siblings own it 50-50 because there was no will. The sibling can file a legal claim by which she may possibly regain title to her house, but with the family turned against her, they will likely help this person fight the sibling in court, viewing this person as the tragic victim of a greedy sibling.
Suppose this person attempted to get a sizeable advance of her presumed inheritance, prior to creditors being paid, and prior to the estate administrator discovering that she destroyed what she had been deceiving the family as being the largest asset — the house she lived in that the parent bought her and made all the monthly mortgage payments on (in addition to paying most or all her other bills, even restitution & probation fees), so that now it’s worth less than the remaining note due on it. Third consecutive house that she irreparably demolished—the first being the one she burned down; as opposed to the sibling who originally purchased her own house, for the most part paid her own mortgage, whose house appreciated in value, and who certainly never caused destruction to anyone’s property.
Then it turned out that there will be no inheritance because this person depleted or destroyed all the parent’s financial resources already. The only asset left of any value is the sibling’s house (a small cottage with 50K equity in a low-middle income subdivision, compared to her 4-bedroom 2 bath on an acre that she ruined), while outstanding debts leave the entire estate at a deficit that can force a sale by creditors, debts that can be traced back primarily to this person. Despite these irrefutable facts, this person has convinced the family that the sibling is just trying to take everything, even though there is nothing to take. All the sibling wanted was to keep her own house that she bought herself 2 decades ago and has been inhabiting, maintaining & improving, and caring for ever since.
This all started as a pursuit of the sibling to rightfully keep her home, make it a fair fight, sibling vs. sibling, without the whole family against the one sibling. Now that so much devastating new evidence has since come to light, it has grown into a pursuit to enlighten family members so that they can protect themselves, including the sibling’s own life and that of her child, from this person.
At least one family member admonished that, under the circumstances, that makes you, the sibling, the worst candidate to speak up, condemnable for even considering it, no matter how much you’ve discovered that’s led you to acknowledge that this person is very dangerous and that people — including you and your child — are in harm’s way, because it only makes you appear to have a less than noble motive.
What, if anything, would you do?
Learn more: How to report your abuser’s crimes so the police take you seriously
Lovefraud originally posted this article on Oct. 27, 2010.
survivorlady,
Your children are fortunate to have the mother that they have, you. Your love for them comes across loud and clear.
Dear Survivorlady,
I look back over my entire life, all 63 11/12ths of it and am processing the memories and relationships and I STILL have things pop up that make me go “Ah ha!” I think maybe that is why I am still here every day at LF, I still find NEW REVELATIONS about things I saw at the time but didn’t realize what it meant.
It is like I am “translating” the text of my life one page at a time. The difference now is that it no longer HURTS SO BADLY when I realize a “truth” I didn’t see before even though it was plain before my eyes.
Sure, I had some good memories during those times too, times I thought I was loved, thought things were “going well” but looking back (20:20 hindsight) I can see that I was living in la-la land as far as seeing what their agendas were. I was “fat, dumb and happy” at the time, now I am still FAT, but NO LONGER dumb and a heck of a lot happier than ever before! TOWANDA!!!
BTW I got some salt substitute while I was in town today and it makes a world of difference in the taste of food. LIFE IS GOOD AGAIN!!! LOL Doesn’t take much to please me these days! LOL
Good Evening All, I am glad I found this site. I have not been as traumatizes as some of you here, I consider myself extremely lucky for getting out as soon as I did. It was unraveling fast and I knew it would get nasty.
He first lavished me with praise over my accomplishment(this did not go to my head) at the end he started to berate me for having so much and not “sharing it” with someone (him) when he clearly needed help. LOL. I told him I would not apologize for my FAT WALLET (his words). That my husband and I had worked hard for what we have and I would need it when I am older.He blew up at me when I told him I would not insult him by offering my help or money to him. That he should be able to help himself. He showed me the door. THANK YOU JESUS!!!
Then I started the search. Just to make sure I was not being paranoid. Now the fog is lifted and I am Seeing Clearly
Welcome Seeing Clearly and others who finally found this site! I’ve been through much and LF has helped me find my sanity and taught me more than I can ever express!
Aaaaaaaah, the smear campaign. I heard someone say once the gossip is nothing more than oral bullying and in a very large sense, it is. Spaths PLAN a smear campaign just as they did when working their way into our heart. It is their intent that we hear of these things, be accused of things not done and blamed for others. To me, at least in my case, it was done out of retaliation for not wanting him around anymore. And for awhile, it worked.
I spent far too much time justifying myself against what had been said. I am still amazed at their ability to get others to believe something that if one were to sit down and think about RATIONALLY, they would see it wasn’t true. The spath operates on emotions. And all too often, they will find a way to get someone to believe something totally irrational based on human emotions and their abuse thereof.
I do not defend myself anymore. I know what is truth. I wasted a LOT of oxygen on trying to explain. No more. I know what’s real and what isn’t and I can walk into a room now and stand tall.
I’m the first to say I’m not perfect. I AM a human being and quite capable of making mistakes. One of the tactics of the smear campaign is to take an ounce of truth, twist and turn it and then it’s entirely believable. It’s important for me to remember that if I could fall for his line of bull, so can anyone else….
Dear Seeingclearly,
GOOD ON YOU, GIRLFRIEND!!!!
I laughed when you said he was so angry that you would not share your “fat wallet” with NEEDY HIM! That is actually FUNNIER’N heck!
If I had a dollar for every psychopath, mooch, or greedy arsehole who has wanted me to SHARE my abundance with them, I’d be a lot richer!!!!
I’m glad you got out when you did and with your “fat wallet” intact!
The lavish praise at first is what we here call “the love bomb” and is a typical example of how the hook us in by praise and showing “love and care” to us–AT FIRST. Cults work the same way!
You set appropriate boundaries for him, and that is your biggest asset. I did not have appropriate boundaries and felt compelled to SUPPLY my psychopaths (mostly relatives) with “help.” NO MORE!!! I’m an old dog but I am learning new tricks—to set appropriate boundaries and not allow others to use me like a tick on a dog’s ear!
Glad you are here!!! Thanks for sharing, I needed that chuckle!
Dear Cat,
Glad to see you back!!!
You are so right about the smear campaign! Defending ourselves is usually futile, but many times like ErinBrock has done, they trip themselves up with their own lies.
so many great posts, so little time!
Caylin, I think Gemini is right, they are insanely jealous of us. But they are jealous of the trees, the birds, the sky or the moon and sun. They feel envy 24/7. It’s like a horrible itch and when we rebel and don’t placate that itch by not being subservient or standing up for ourselves, they hate us soooo much more! then they want vengeance for an imagined transgression. But the entire time they were baiting us so that we WOULD finally rebel and that would be their EXCUSE to strike harder than ever and say that we deserve it. My exP told me this – not verbatim but it was definitely expressed: “keep that up, so that I can hate you more.”
Survivor Lady,
yes, I know what you mean, I’ve been processing 25 years from my spath and 44 from my parents! OMG. we are blessed to have survived, it was a God given gift that I want to share each day with all the other people who need this knowledge. I’d like to encourage you to write or keep a blog about the details of what you remember. It will serve as a way to process but also you may one day help someone else open their eyes when they see the template of sociopathy. If I could, I would hug you and help you release the anger. You are sooooo much better than he was.
I’d like to share a link to a blog from my doctor who runs the community accupuncture clinic. HE IS AMAZING. as you will see from his writing. As much as his accupuncture helps me, reading his writings are just about as healing. Please check this out from Jordan:
http://communichi.org/blog/?p=511
Here is the best part of it:
No, thank you mother. Thank you for all that gives nourishment. Thank you for this breath, for the mysterious life force that pulsates through my veins. Thanks for the fox and the great blue heron and the ducks in Kelvingrove Park. And thanks for the hassles too ”“ the headaches, bug bites, the nurse who gruffly evicts me out for being in violation of visiting hours. No, seriously, thanks for the pain and suffering. Without you, my mind would wallow ever stuck in a narrow range of subhuman experience, lacking any resiliency, or wisdom.
i watched Ricky Martin on the oprah show tonite. i am so happy for him.
OX Drover,
You should also be known as (aka) WISE OWL. You are very giving and supportive. I hope I can be the same.
I have always told friends and relatives that I would not lend them money however I would be more than willing to show them how they could have a second income. Not many takers, I told sp same he said he didn’t have the time la de do la de doe, I would never have given him or anyone money unearned. I use to call these persons parasites now I see them for what they really are. It’s really a shame because it causes us to feel that all men(for women) or women(for men) are all the same and they’re not. We need to protect ourselves and our loved ones from these frauds. I had a very strong and loving marriage of 35 years, and we both had a strong sense of self worth.
I am not putting anything past him, we do not run in the same circles, so not likely to see him. I have strong family and friend bussiness associates who know me well. As Dr. Phil says People who have nothing to hide….hide nothing. I am here to learn and hopefully support others in their recovery.
Stay Strong, Stay Safe and Stay Sane.
Dear Seeingclearly,
Thank you very much, I’m learning my “wisdom” LATE about psychopaths but I have been enough of a Scots woman to not be taken too badly to the cleaners financially by any of them.
I will occasionally loan someone a small amount of money (no more than I can stand to lose) or just GIVE it to them, but don’t repeat that often or get taken in by sad stories.
Once years ago I loaned my then best friend $200 for a big emergency and we were both broke so it was my last $200. I told her that she could pay it back if she cold but if not, that was okay too. It wasn’t about the money, heck I would have given her my last pint of blood. I loved this friend like a sister.
After that she started to treat me badly, and several weeks later she came to my house and acted really an ass and as she drove way (forever) I cried and cried, totally heart broken, and I realized at that time even that she had decided to be hateful to me so she could get mad at me and not feel guilty about not paying back the money. She lost a FRIEND who would literally have died for her, and I lost $200 so tell me who lost the most in that deal?
A year and a half ago, a “friend” since my college days cheated me out of $56—a man I trusted very much and would have done just about anything for, and he “won” by cheating me out of $56. But I told him to leave my house and never come back because he broke his word over $56—he said, “No, he didn’t BREAK his word, he just CHANGED it.”
To me, you don’t “sell” or “lose” a friend for any amount of money, but at the same time, if someone wants to cheat you even for a nickle they are NOT your friend, you are still better off losing the money than keeping on thinking they are your friend. If you can keep your money and still find out they are not your friend, that’s even better! LOL