Much of the United States erupted in outrage at the news that Casey Anthony was acquitted of murder. Bloggers and citizens asked: What was wrong with the jury? Couldn’t these 12 people see through her lies? Even if they had been sequestered for the trial, the media had been reporting her loose relationship with truth for years.
Read Casey Anthony’s top 10 alleged lies on Investigation Discovery.
Lies, however, do not prove that Anthony committed murder. Even Wendy Murphy, the feminist lawyer who vociferously supports battered mothers and abused children, predicted that Casey Anthony would walk. Why? The prosecution did not have proof, beyond a reasonable doubt, that she committed the crime.
Read Wendy Murphy: Why Casey Anthony will be acquitted, on PatriotLedger.com.
Psychologists have had a field day with the case. The Psychology Today website has 17 posts, by various experts, on the topic. They’ve covered many aspects of the case, including Why do moms kill? and The science of jury selection.
Visit Not Guilty: The case of Casey on PsychologyToday.com.
Lovefraud readers are probably in agreement that Casey Anthony is somewhere on the narcissist-sociopath-psychopath scale. How did she get that way? She had to inherit the genetics from somewhere in her family tree. Then, since the origin of sociopathy is a mixture of genetic and environmental factors, her dysfunctional family probably played a role in the development of the disorder. Maybe she was, as the defense claimed, abused by her father.
In the end, we don’t know how Casey Anthony acquired her sociopathic traits. But I am fairly confident in predicting that at some point, because of her sociopathy, Casey Anthony will crash and burn.
Sociopaths as failures
As a group, sociopaths tend to be failures. They end up with health issues, financial problems and legal problems. They usually die sooner than people who are not personality disordered.
Just this week, I’ve received news about three of our True Lovefraud Stories:
James Montgomery: My ex-husband, who now lives in Australia, tried to hook up with a woman a few years ago and invited her to visit him. She did, and was not impressed. When he fell asleep on the couch, she snuck away and never talked to him again. The woman just saw Montgomery at a train station and reports, “He’s the size of an elephant, has a long white beard and dresses like a hippie.” So much for the guy who promised me that we’d be living “in the lap of luxury.”
Brian Ellington: I hear about this guy more than anyone else profiled on Lovefraud. The most recent news is that he was arrested again in New York City on June 11, 2011. The charges: drug possession with intent to distribute.
Anthony Owens: A commenter submitted this to the “Fight Bigamy” blog: “Bishop Anthony Owens passed away in a hospital on Tuesday, July 05, 2011 in a hospital in Memphis, TN. Funeral services is incomplete at this time.” Anthony Owens was not yet 40 years old.
So although sociopaths have highly inflated opinions of themselves, usually the charade falls apart. I’m sure that sooner or later, Casey Anthony will screw up on a large enough scale to put her out of circulation. Even sociopaths who skated for a long time eventually failed. Look at O.J. Simpson. Look at Bernie Madoff.
I would just like to seem them fail sooner, and with less collateral damage to the rest of us.
UPDATE 7/15/11:
Just got more information on exactly how James Montgomery was “dressed as a hippie.” Apparently there are hippie communes where Montgomery now lives in Australia, and my source speculates that he has joined one because that’s the only way he can afford to live. Here’s what she said:
He was wearing: red/orange pants, hippie sandles, caftan like long top to ankles in multiple colours, big round glasses with pink lenses, long scarf draped around his neck and over his shoulder nearly touching the ground and a hat which looked like a beanie. A long white beard probably about 12/15inches long and I would say weighing about 150 to 175 kilos or more (330 to 385 pounds). Imagine a man 6ft 2ins tall 175 kgs and wearing that get up!!!
I also read, online somewhere, that Leonard Bernstein was conflicted with being bisexual, when he was married. Too often, it seems, “bisexual” is the “catch all definition” of some “condition” making it “okay” to greedily prey on both women & men, simultaneously. I hate that. If one is merely to describe “bisexual” as “someone who has sex with both men and women” .. alright..that would be a semi “ok” statement to me, but not one that necessarily creates a “born with” or “genetic only” condition of being “bi”, to cover, protect, and especially EXCUSE anyone’s SPATH activity with both sexes. Know what I mean?
..all that I wrote in last two comments.., well, not withstanding when your ex (SPATH) claims to be monogamous, and, to me, since him, “bisexual” is an oxymoron..opposite of what he claimed for almost 9 years. Since him, “bisexual” to me, does NOT equal MONOGAMY! (duh!)
I saw, last night, a “Law & Order” episode, “Gov Love” .. the main theme was about a corrupt governor on the down low, who had a gay lover, and who killed his wife. His gay male lover seemed, at first, willing, when confronted by law officials, to hearing his (governor) lawyer admit to having killed his wife, but the two of them married, after-the-fact, in another state, in a state recognizing gay marriages, apparently to cover up the crime, to try to obscure/prevent evidence of the murder from coming open, and apparently did so INTENTIONALLY, relying on the law that prevents spouses from testifying against one another. WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO?!
I’m based in Australia and I’ve been following this site for over 12 months now. This is my first post and I must say I’m a little bit nervous as I’m still a little confused. The lovefraud site and all its followers have been extremely helpful to me over the past 12 months. I can relate to so much of what so many of you are writing about and your experiences. I’m more than convinced that my partner of 7 years is in fact a sociopath, but am still confused and unsure on how to get my head around it all. I shared a long distance relationship with this man for 5 years and made the move interstate with my 7 year old son 2 years ago to live with him. Although I saw signs of inappropriate behaviour during our 5 year long distance courtship, I still made the move to be with him as I fell for his promises that things would be magical once I moved in with him. I spent the first 5 years believing the never ending lies he fed me, giving him chance after chance when I would discover his unfaithfulness to me with other women, believing that his ex wife was a monster, resulting in this terrible untrusting man who couldn’t put his faith in women again. He didn’t mean to cheat, he didn’t mean to hurt me. He was messed up and hated all women at the time because of what his ex wife did to him. I believed him, and believed he was hurting and that he didn’t really mean to hurt me. I honestly believed him when he said his ex had made him become the man he had with me. Of course since moving in with him, things have only become worse. Not only were all this promises to me false, but I also discovered alot about the ex wife and what she also went through with him. He still lies about alot of things, and he is not only verbally abusive but he has been physically abusive on a couple of occasions. As I sit here writing these words, I know it sounds ridiculous and I am completely insane to be still with this man. It’s not until you read what you are writing that you know deep down inside, regardless of all the words, and the convincing lies and continued promises, this man will never change and may in fact be a classic sociopath. Can he still be sociopathic if he was raised in a happy loving family with parents who gave him everything he ever wanted? Can he still be sociopathic if he is there for his children all the time and they appear to adore him? I often feel like the evil one sometimes when I question whether the love he promotes to his children is more in fact a continued competition for affection from them over his children’s mother (the ex wife) to whom he still talks badly of, to whom he is still fighting in court after 9 years, and to whom he seems to spend most of his weeks annoyed, cranky or whinging about rather than enjoying what he has in me. Does it sound like I’m dealing with one of these monsters you all describe so clearly? I want to believe that I am not perfect and that perhaps I do provoke him at times and make him cranky and can be nasty as well. I never was a nasty person or had any enemies in my entire life, since moving interstate with him not only do I find myself saying nasty things to him sometimes through my resentment towards him, but I don’t have many friends at all, only one in fact, and there are alot of women that dislike me. I don’t know for what reason, I don’t know what I’ve done to have his female friends dislike me. My work colleagues seem to adore me, but not ONE female friend of his likes me and even a few of his long standing male friends. I’m at a crossroads whether I’ve created this for myself through my resentment and bitterness or whether slowly but surely he is killing all my spirit and faith in human kind! I want to be happy again, but I’m scared that I’m expecting too much perfection from this man and reading in to things too much. Any advice from someone who has or is going through a similar situation would be very much appreciated! I don’t want to share too much of my feelings with my family and friends back home in Sydney as I know they would worry too much about me being interstate without any support!
Melly –
“Can he still be sociopathic if he was raised in a happy loving family with parents who gave him everything he ever wanted? Can he still be sociopathic if he is there for his children all the time and they appear to adore him? ”
Oh sweetie – yes he can! Mine was/is. The “being there” wasn’t what it seemed – it was all a part of what I call his “white-picket-fence-ing”. Anything that looked nice or normal was carefully constructed to portray a nice guy image. That way, when they abuse you, when they begin the discard, when they spread the awful rumours of your “unbearable behaviour” and your “mental illness” and all of the other “reasons” they were forced to cheat on you and/or leave you, everyone believes them and buys into their sob story.
I’m in Western Australia Melly – where are you?
Hi Melly,
Welcome, Welcome…..glad you decided to jump in and join the ‘chat’s’. Jump in anytime with any issue…..and there will be someone to keep you company, hold your hand or (if needed) boink you back into reality! 🙂
It will be OKAY darlen…….but you have choices to make.
Your in the vortex of the fog. It won’t lift until you ‘step out of the fire’.
It doesn’t matter ‘what’ he is…..your living toxic! THAT”S not healthy for YOU or your child.
don’t concentrate on a ‘diagnosis’…..if your not happy, if your being abused………GO…GET OUT!
being alone is better than being abused…..no matter how broke, dependant, or whatever reason you are staying.
I highly recommend you seek support from your family…..If there is an inkling they will support you…..reach out! So many of us here at LF did not have that option and our families were toxic too…….RUN FOR YOUR FAMILY!
Don’t own his behaviors……get out!
Again, i’m glad you decided to write on the blog……LIFE HAS JUST BEGUN!!!!!!
XXOO
EB
@....... Lis, That has been the hardest part for me to handle, burn me into the ground who cares I can get back up again, but having a child in the middle and the SP using the child against you to keep the emotional torment going because its the only way they know to get you at the core and get a reaction out of you, I question the reality of it every freaking day, I want my Son to be as normal Mentally and Emotionally as I can raise him, you feel no one could possibly understand because the SPs focus is on you.
Dont do anything stupid, just give them enough rope and they will always hang them self….
Don’t show any emotion to the SP they will play with it and feed off it and use it against you, no matter how bad you want to react …. Don’t! You can also use this in your favor as much as you can, feed them wrong emotions it will make their head hurt trying to figure it out because they have to process emotion as information. And say it mono toned so they cant even get it out of your voice inflections!
And they can get worse with you because they learn like a Virus from what feed back they can get out of you, And for that fact feel sorry for the next person they hook up with, their end will be much worse 🙁
Once you can spot when your being played with, give no feedback at all be as blank as they can be….
And for God Sakes DO NOT ever poke an SP to get a reaction or try and get back at them (first of all they don’t care you cant really get their goat), no matter how bad you may want, just be as Null as you can be and distant! They see something in us they want to twist, they don’t look forward or plan ahead they don’t look back unless they are still messing with you.
I kept every email and after I started to worry I started to “Video” every contact or exchange, at this point I have 100s of hours worth.
With their life style sooner or later they move on to a new game or it takes so much out of them their health fails, Don’t give up, don’t give in, and be as balanced as you can be for your kids….
At first when I got a Lawyer I told him right up front she was an SP, he told me stop it I looked like a disgruntaled Ex. Then In custody court on the first court date my Lawyer seen what she was then asked me in the hall “what did you call her mental condition”, the Law guardian (recommended the child stay in this city with the Father), the Judge and even her own Lawyer because of the questions they all were asking both of us, and she is not one of the smarter SPs she just thinks it should all go her way and she thinks no matter what she says, she thinks people will believe her, and I mean some really dumb stuff was said in court that made the judge roll his eyes a few times!
I remember one thing she said there was a collective gasp in the courtroom! And the Law Guardian was starting to look really uncomfortable.
She was saying all these strange lies and “Thank God” I could prove every one a lie…. she said “she” had two years of collage and she said “I” didn’t even have a HS diploma, so I had to bring it in, she said we didn’t have Cable TV and that was the reason she was on the computer so much and was pushed into finding this new guy, I went to the cable company and had 5 years worth of bills printed out and signed by them…. wait, wait….she said I didn’t have a Drivers Lic! that was an easy one! this went on for over a year!
The first few months I think they looked at me funny, trying to figure out why a woman would just want to leave and say “I wanted a new life, its not better just different” so I am sure they were trying to figure out if I was some nasty person or abusive or neglectful or something she was trying to just get away from? That’s why these take so long in court. Then try and not look like just another disgruntled Ex or an angry person when your fighting one in court! But really how can you not be angry when someone has just stolen your child, destroyed your life, walked away like nothing happened and left you for dead! (being honest, I am still a little upset) In my case I trusted them to see and do the right thing and it did to some extent.
Even my Lawyer got caught up in the moment, we were sitting out side the courtroom and he said some things that took me back, I never thought I would hear come out of a Lawyers mouth I cant even say here!
Till the day I die I will remember some of the phrases:::
I can do what I want with my son, and If I have to let you see him I will never be able to live any where I want….and I deserve to be free to do what I want
There is not a court in the country that would take a baby away from its mother….
If you fight for your son I will burn you into the ground….
(even after being left for dead) You Owe Me”.and I Deserve
I know you have 10 years worth of interest in the house and I am willing to sign it over to you, all I need first is your Sig on full custody papers….
(OMG I knew I was going to be in big trouble when she said) Your going to make this fun for me aren’t you …..
and many many more!
My Lawyer tried to reassure me saying they see this all the time and I think even he had a hope she would go away on her own before they had to rule against her. (because you know here in this state even unfit mothers get the child 92% of the time)
The Judge tried to put as much stress on her as he could, as this was all going on we had 50/50 (Every two weeks) and he made her drive 1100 miles to my doorstep (16 hours & $200) “every two weeks”, to do the exchange at my house thinking she would give up and he would not have to make a ruling against her, I guess they underestimated “demonic strength” she got Pregnant again at 43 and drove that every two weeks by herself, her water broke on the way here, she continued here and drove 8 hours back to give birth. (oh yes she did) and 2-1/2 years later, still doing it!
My emotions are burnt into the ground now. What the court does not see or hear are the horrible exchanges, Pleas when she takes him “daddy please help” “I’m scared daddy” and she knows that burns me more then anything so the game continues and the other part I call court ordered child abuse is my Son has had to do that as well strapped into a car seat for 2-1/2 years! Ya, I know, I can hear another collective gasp 🙁
Because of all that, I did get a very water tight custody order and unless I fall apart and do something stupid it will end when its time for him to go to school….
Keep a positive spirit just keep thinking it could be all over as fast as it started, sooner or later they move on, they always do.
And PS if you read this far, Thank you for bearing with me it’s a very uncomfortable situation and I really need to get some of this off my chest like therapy, the friends and family around me have been awesome support but they have all been effected by this also and the Mob mentality that can result is not very uplifting at times:(
So…..earlier today….I was checking email….and lownbehold I get an email from my exMIL, asking if I’d call her please.
Okay……so what in the hell does she want? I had some ideas…….
So I took a deep breath, pressed play on the digi recorder and dialed…..
Holy shiat…..2.5 hours later…….and chuckleing to myself…..she had spilled the family secrets. (as I played the nice kind disinterested in spaths behaviors kinda DIL)
I told her I was ‘sorry’ that her and her sons were ‘picking up’ from the life I left behind.
She said over and over…..i’ve never seen him this crazy…..he’s getting worse…..I said, Yeah….”they’ don’t change, ‘they’ do get worse sweetie! She seemed very concerned with him.
NOW…..let me preface all this with….do I trust my former MIL…..Uh yeah….with my ex! Ha….NO I don’t trust her one iota. But….i’ll play along.
I know she’s in touch with him…..because she knew that jr’s wouldn’t take his recent call. She kept saying how sick she was and didn’t want to hear his questions about why the kids won’t speak to him….they owe him, he was a good father etc……SHE saw his abuse with her own eyes.
She’s also been a victim of spaths since she set foot in his life at 3 years of age…..as he got older he tried his damndest to break her and his father up. (father died during our divorce) He had HUGE claims of her abuse….that escalated as the years passed. (I believe never happened). He’s come between (split) every member of his family…..drawing support from differnet members over the years….until they discover his truth/lies. They all played him as the bully to solve their own issues with each other aswell….they all had motives. can you spell…..DISFUNCTION?
She told me that spath borrowed 30K from her hubby when ‘we’ bought the house. I’m thinking…..huh? We put 150K down and it came from my boss as a bridge loan…..she said spath had told them not to tell EB. (dumbshiat….did that move not ring an alarm bell?) So apparantly….the story goes…..the brother called me to tell me to pay the money back (never happened) and that spath got pissed off brother let me in on the secret……so NOW…..that particular brother get’s the blame for our divorce. Apparantly I got so angry that is what caused our divorce?!?!?! UH…..OKAY???? And who, but spath bought that story??? Spath paid back parents 30K cash…….
I told ex MIL…..you know what you did by giving him 30K?…..You fed many, many children drugs…..He invested in drugs, sold and returendd the money to make himself look honerable. All w/o my knowledge…..and them thinking they were helping ‘us’ bye a house?!?!? WTF?
This was all news to me.
So…..the ‘new’ story from spath has evolved to…..
I am the reason he has no relationship with his Jr’s…..I brain washed them.
Brother is the reason for our divorce…..
Mother is the reason his life is so fucked up…..
And other brother is the reason he was arrested with the drugs….because brother ‘made’ him buy them.
I’m pleased…..it’s NOT ALL my fault anymore….he’s passing the blame on to others now! Whew….
I just laughed and said….ofcourse! It’s bout time ya’ll get some blame.
She went into so many stories……I just laughed and said….you are not telling me anything that shocks me…..I lived this already.
Rinse-repeat!
I guess the last straw was……he made it known that he was going to cause trouble in one brothers marriage. he knew how to and he was going to pay his brother back for taking the other brothers side when they both told him to ‘get over it’ they were all tired of hearing his fake stories of being a victim. take responsibility for your OWN actions.
There is a price to be paid in ‘punishment’. He wants everyone to be as miserable as HE is.
for some reason this blew them all away??? I think they are ALL starting to ‘get it’.
HA!
And what…..do you want me to hold your hands through his beatings? Fuck you all! You abandoned my kids and chose an abusive spath over wonderful/loving kids.
I repeated over and over……How’d that work for ya’ll? You allienated my kids.
She asked for ‘permission’ to be in touch with my eldest jr. I told her, he’s an adult and i’m not his keeper…..contrary to popular beliefs……I told her I wouldn’t hold her breath and have no expectations…….but if she does reach out…….she had better follow through!
She asked if she could write a letter and have me read it and proof it and if I thought it was okay to pass it on to him…..I said, NO WAY! I’m not in control of HER relationship with my Jr. I said…..write from your heart and give it your best shot.
I could really care less if she’s in kids lives or not…..at this point all i’d really care about is the inheritance she said the kids names were added to in the will a few years back. And for me……that ain’t no reason to fight for a relationship with people who freely chose a spath, KNOWING what we lived through!!!!!
It was interesting……I’m not certain of her real motive…..I NEVER asked one bit about spath……I did tell her when she asked if were were still in the house…..that OH YEAH…..ofcourse…..then I said….I won’t get married until I’m confident in the childrens paths in life……I’ve got no reason to rush it. She said…..OH your getting married, you found someone…..I played it from there……yeah, a wonderful man…..blah, blah,blah……she asked if kids like him…..I siad, they ADORE HIM! He’s a great male role model and a healthy man. (LIE…..I’m not even dating), but I wanted her to know we were NOT alone in our residence…..I also told her we spend so many weekends at the shooting range…..and eldest jr is so funny…..he could shoot a pea in the dark…..dead on. I said we have competitions and he and I are the best shots. We got Jr a 22 for his 19th b-day…….Just planted seeds of…….we are armed and NOT alone!
So….now I suspect….the family is going to come out of the woodwork, wanting to reconnect. Now theyve been duped.
Sorry……NOT INTERESTED! But…i’ll play along!
All I want is information…..where were YOU all?
🙂
@....... Melly
If there is “any” mental or physical abuse, does he ever talk down to you? are you putting money into a project of his? Run and dont look back before he Sucks your emotions and money out from under you….
alot of SPs have comon sayings to thier partner like …
We are so much alike….
we are Solemates….
they do someting small for you and use it to control you, you may hear “You Owe Me” and or just made to feel that way.
Dont give up faith in humanity, I hear upwards of 85% of us are still Ok,
but keep your eyes open and dont be blindsided by an SP!
We all exibit one or two trates of SP in our lives from time to time depending on the situation we are in, Health, Stress, but being normal we ebb and flow.
Thanks so much for the reply guys. It was so refreshing to hear some advice from people who know what I’m going through with this man.
Aussiegirl ”“ I only moved as far as Canberra (3 hour drive from family and friends) and I do catch up with them all every second weekend. I completely know what you mean about the whole portraying us to have the ’mental illness’. He is forever telling me I’m nuts or psycho. Sadly – to the point now where my own son will call me psycho woman when I’m cross with him or trying to discipline him. Is it possible that you can go a little crazy and feel as though you’re becoming a product of them?
Thanks Erinbrock ”“ I know he is toxic and I know it’s not healthy. Maybe it’s just accepting that people can actually be that way. And no matter how much I try and tell him or help him with his issues, he is oblivious and can truly not see what he is doing is wrong. My family are great and I should go back to them. Going back means admitting defeat and failure and starting over again. I know anything has to be better than the life I’m living now, but it isn’t all that bad sometimes and he tries to be loving and caring ”“when it suits him though I guess!!!
And Bobert ”“ you are so spot on the mark with the ’I owe him’ comments and the money sucking part. Although I’m not on his mortgage or helping him pay that, I feel as though my money still all goes into that household. Be it to help him with his 3 boys (to whom I adore and vice versa) or to help pave the way to an easier life for him. But because I am not on the mortgage it’s always thrown in my face, “Get out of MY house, you don’t contribute etc etc”. As for talking me down??? Well apparently I talk him down. I make him feel ugly or worthless…perhaps I do now! I know I never use to, but it’s now become a part of my defence mechanism I guess! After years of cheating on me and my not feeling worthy enough and being told how beautiful his ex wife was and throwing in the odd ’bring your fat arse over here’ comments, I suppose I do insult now as a defence. It’s not who I am, but more who I’ve become!
Thanks again guys 🙂 I’m glad I took the plunge to open up and share x o