A Lovefraud reader using the name Dawn H posted the following comment quite awhile ago. At the end of her story, she brings up important questions.
My ex and I grew up in the same small town. We were like Barbie and Ken”¦expected to marry and live happily ever after. I watched him grow from a very nice guy into a predator and a very evil person in just a few years. After our child was born he started a new wonderful job in a bank and quickly climbed the ladder to success. I put him through law school as he became distant and harsh and wouldn’t touch me. I found out he was bragging at work about secretaries’ children being his. One of his secretaries divorced her husband to sneak around with mine in sleazy motels and the whole time he was telling her that I carried a gun in my diaper bag, etc. I met and befriended her, she started fainting at work, they both got fired, and she moved away. He begged and cried and we did major counseling for a year and I dropped the divorce proceedings thinking he was well.
Over the next two or three years he was nice and took my calls at work, came home for supper, etc, but gradually grew distant and harsh again. I found out in ’04 that he had a 10-12 yr affair with another secretary from his new position as COO of a publicly traded banking company AND a woman in every port city from here to Beijing. He had been hiding his money all this time, so that when he was caught he would not have to share. He bought all his mistresses suits, jewelry, even paid for one’s house, while I had to pay utilities, my own food, my own insurance, car payment”¦everything from my teacher salary. He kept me literally broke while he was making almost half a million per yr and telling me we had no money because he was reinvesting it all in the company. If I wanted 200 for Christmas presents, he made me postdate a check for January, and he wouldn’t let go of his check until I let go of mine.
There was no intimacy for more than 15 yrs. He lied all day every day, but the strange thing was that he turned very dark. He would leave butcher knives out on the counter facing the stairs where I came down in the morning. I found out his mistress was the one who had been phone stalking me for 7 or 8 yrs, and their phone records were like 25 or 30 calls to each other every day, even though they worked side by side. At the same time he had many other young mistresses and kept them all ignorant of each other. After he was caught and we separated, he cried and became perfect all over again for a year counseling, then got caught at a sleazy motel with someone again.
I could tell that someone was breaking into my house while I was at the gym. He brought me Ultimate Woman vitamin pills with the seal broken and some missing! I found an empty Viagra box in his vanity drawer. This guy has 150 IQ. Someone was hacking into my bank records online, and I left tape recorders at the house to see what was going on there while I was out. On the phone from the house to women, he sounded like a dirty old man, talking naughty and naked and nasty. I wouldn’t have believed it was him. One day he would cry and hug the stuffing out of me apologizing, and the next day he was rude and hateful and couldn’t remember he had apologized. I knew my life was in danger and I had to change the locks etc. I had to tape record every conversation during separation and divorce proceedings, because he lied so much to attorneys, etc, that you couldn’t prove anything without recordings.
He had NO concern for our son’s feelings in any of this. The mistresses’ children grew up with him sneaking in through the fence to sleep with mommy, and the first one’s kids were calling him Daddy too. He found out this mistress aborted his child, and he doesn’t care. He told me one time during the proceedings “the girlfriend knows I do what I want and I get what I want, and she’s fine with that.” Children’s feelings are unimportant, but he is wining and dining our son now, like we’re in a contest ”¦ climbing the pyramids in Egypt ”¦ took him to the Great Wall of China ”¦ fly fishing in the Grand Canyon, etc. Bought a barge and stocks it with bongs and booze for my son’s friends, etc. No regard for the kids ”¦ it’s all about him and winning.
My interest in cases like this is, where do you draw the line? When do you bring in the attorneys and police and IRS? What about the children? If he’s been hiding money for years in other countries, are you just supposed to forget and forgive and move on? I’ve had the hardest time with that. God is so good to me, but when I start to recall all the craziness, I get shaky and lose sleep and I just can’t really go there anymore. I want to protect others from this victimization and I don’t want to be vindictive, but then again, I don’t want him hurting other young women. I would not doubt that he might be one of these trafficking guys. Did you know most of the WORLD’S trafficking is financed by middle-aged American businessmen? We need to wake up and do something quickly. This American businessman/ sociopath/ narcissist/ predator thing is getting out of hand.
Dawn H’s story is terrible. Most people would say the story is shocking, but that’s because most people are ignorant about sociopaths. All of us here at Lovefraud know that stories like Dawn’s are much more common than the uninitiated realize.
The man Dawn H described is clearly hurting many people—Dawn, her son, the bevy of mistresses, the mistresses’ kids, even American taxpayers, since the guy is hiding his money. He may even be complicit in the sordid the sex trade.
Whether our stories are as bad as Dawn’s or not, many of us ask ourselves the same questions that she asked at the end of her email: How do we respond?
We all have to find our own answers to the question. Following are the points and issues to consider. For the sake of convenience I am referring to the sociopaths as male, but they could be female as well.
Now vs. later
When we first realize what the sociopath was actually doing, that everything he told us was a lie, that we were exploited, our emotions are at a full boil. We are traumatized, disillusioned, furious, scared. We want to strike back. We want to tell the world that he is a liar. We wonder how we are going to survive. Our emotions rage back and forth between outrage and fear, worry and determination.
At this point, we need to prioritize. We need to figure out what we MUST do now, and what can wait, in fact, what MUST wait, until later.
Survival
The most important variable in deciding how to proceed is the possibility of violence. The best predictor of future violence is past violence. If the sociopath has been violent in the past—even if it wasn’t directed towards you—you must assume that he could be violent in the future, and you may be the target.
If you (and your children) are in physical danger, you need to do whatever will protect your safety. If the sociopath has committed crimes for which he is likely to be arrested and jailed, report them. But if his offenses are such that authorities are likely to regard them as a case of “he said-she said,” or he’s likely to get out on bail and come after you—well, it may be better not to poke the hornet’s nest.
Your first priority is survival. As long as you are alive, everything else can be addressed later.
Stability
Your second priority is stability. Many of us have been financially wiped out by the sociopaths. If you’re in this position, you need to take steps to insure your economic survival. If you’re married to the sociopath, and financially entangled, you need to figure out the best way to disengage that is healthiest for you in the long run.
In considering how far to go after the sociopath legally, here are questions to ask yourself:
- Does he have any assets? Does he have a job? Does he have documented income? If there is no money, there may be nothing to gain.
- Do you have proof of his money? If not, can you get it?
- Can you afford a legal battle? If not, perhaps you should just walk away.
- Can he afford a legal battle? Does he have a history of filing lawsuits? If he does, he’s likely to relish going to court, and will drag out the proceedings, costing you money.
- Do you have children with him? If yes, one of these two scenarios is likely: Either he will abandon his responsibilities and fail to pay child support, or he will maintain contact and use the children as pawns to torment you.
Your ultimate goal should be to get rid of the sociopath and move on with your life. Any financial or legal actions you take against him should support that goal.
Emotional recovery
An experience with a sociopath leaves us feeling like we’ve been through a meat grinder. Anger, disappointment, shame, guilt, fear, outrage, even numbness—we probably cycle through all of them.
It’s exhausting.
We need to find our peace of mind. For some of us, it may be the first time that we consciously pursue peace of mind. Many of us were filled with vulnerability and turmoil, which attracted the sociopaths in the first place.
In deciding how far to go after the sociopath, therefore, we must also consider our emotional recovery. Lovefraud’s standard advice for recovery from the sociopath is No Contact—not having any interaction at all with him. No conversations. No phone calls. No email. No in-person encounters.
Going after the sociopath may entail some kind of contact. If you go to court, you’ll have to deal with him. If you want to expose him on the Internet, you may need to monitor his Facebook page. This means, as we say on Lovefraud, you are “renting him space in your head.” Thinking about the sociopath is a form of contact.
On the other hand, going after him may be important to your emotional recovery. By doing it, you are not allowing him to walk all over you. Standing up to him may benefit your self-esteem, and allow you to recover your identity.
Only you know what you need.
Making the sociopath accountable
Personally, I think it’s important to do what you can to make the sociopath accountable for his destructive actions. BUT you may want to think carefully about WHEN and HOW you take action.
If you have evidence that the sociopath committed a crime, report him to the authorities. Maybe the crime you report isn’t prosecuted, but it could help establish his pattern of behavior if another person reports a crime.
If, like many Lovefraud readers, you don’t want the sociopath to do to someone else what he did to you, you may want to warn the next victim, or expose the sociopath. I’ve written previously on both of these topics:
Letters to Lovefraud: Should I warn the next victim?
Perhaps you can’t take action against the sociopath right away because you need to attend to your own safety, stability and recovery. But maybe, when you are stronger, you can do something to stop the exploitative behavior.
Sociopaths get away with their immoral, unethical and sometimes criminal behavior because people do not stand up to them. So I think that when we can do so safely, we should speak up and take action. Sociopaths will continue their destructive behavior until they are stopped.
..and for your further listening enjoyment
You better watch out
You better not cry
Better not pout
I’m telling you why
Spathinator is coming to town
She’s making a list
And checking it twice;
Gonna find out Who’s naughty and vice
Spathinator is coming to town.
She sees you when you’re cheating
She knows when you’re on the take
She knows if you’ve been lying
So stay masked for goodness sake!
O! You better watch out!
You better not cry
Better not pout
I’m telling you why
Spathinator is coming to town
Spathinator is coming to town
ONE
You make me laugh! You’re on a roll!
I just finished watching the movie THE TALENTED RIPLEY, it was a movie about a SPATH. It was really good. The mirroring, the envy, the lies, the lack of “self” , the lack of remorse. It was really good. I saw lots of what happened with my spath in that movie.
My favorite line was the end, where the spath said, “I think it’s better to be a fake somebody than a real nobody”. LOL. Remember that. Spaths are trash.
ouuu callmeathena, i saw it when it came out and then rented it again last year. there are 2 spaths in the movie – maybe more!
i read all the books before i knew what a spath was about…which led me to what to know more about the author, patricia highsmith, who i knew was a lesbian. thinking about the era the books were written in and because when i first saw the movie i thought it was about a closeted, criminal gay man (an unfortunate and oft pairing in fiction until the 80’s), i was very curious to know more about her.
there is a very good biography about her, ‘The Talented Miss Highsmith: The Secret Life and Serious Art of Patricia Highsmith’ by Joan Schenkar.
I started to read it and something felt waaaay off. In the back of the book are lists of character traits and meetings with all the people she had as lovers – with little notes about what they liked, their feelings, etc. row after row after row, like a ledger.
it was very creepy.
it was only after i came here that i understood exactly how creepy it was.
the talented mr. ripley series is a tell.
Ox, We all need to come up with some new outfit’s for our xmas carol tour. Something in red and green this time, yellow and black just isn’t in my color palette. ho ho ho
ONE
I had no idea. I don’t know when the movie came out but I didn’t see it. I never saw Saturday Night Fever either. Obviously I lived a deprived life.
Yeah, I was wondering about how many spaths there were. I was thinking that Dickie was a “N” and Ripley was a spath, but I’m not sure. I was thinking of buying a book that did a character analysis.
Thanks for the tip, I think I will buy the book(s).
Wow.
Athena
Hens,
Yea, we can come up with some different costumes more in line with the season, red and green….and shoes with the toes turned up and bells on the ends, and I can put red and green tu-tus on Fat and Hairy and teach them to dance on their back legs, and get the piggies to run around between their legs when the asses dance, and put bells on the piggies. And the ducks can fly by and do a quack quack as they go by! WOW! What a show!
I just got a call a guy is going to buy my wagon and the goose neck trailer that I hauled it on….so that will give me a “MERRY Xmas and a happy new Year!” To start off! Trimming off the “fat” and the things I don’t need any more, cutting down the amount of stuff I have to take care of!
That’s a good thing!
I saw “The Devil’s advocate” last Friday…Al Pacino as the ultimate spath… with a lot of demon fantasy on top of it of course. Vanity was his favourite vice.
One, you actually made me laugh out loud. ha ha ha ha
My old neighborhood, where roads were blocked off due to drive-by shootings, happened to be right next to an airport. So if the crime didn’t get to you, the sound of airplanes taking off and landing did. So here was my first voicemail recording:
Be it ever so humble,
There’s no place like home
Where loud airplanes rumble
And crack dealers roam….
Where opportunities abound
To become drug addicted,
And keeping up with the Joneses
Means getting evicted….
Oh the sweet sound of gunfire
That rings through the night
And the streets all aglow
With red and blue flashing lights……
No, I’ll not leave Aurora
As you might have guessed.
For then, what would I do
With my bullet proof vest?
With my can of mace
I walk safely alone!
Be it ever so humble,
There’s no place like home.
Hi all! have been down with a “kicked my butt” cold and I missed L.F.
Ox, good to be back !! I have told some people about Lovefraud and how much this site and all that come here have helped me. One of the techniques spaths use is to isolate us and finding others who understand me, help me and just plain GET ME is such a gift and breath of fresh air….
KatyDid, LOVE the dance! How often do we get to do that on here? I’ve come to believe we have the RIGHT to dance and I’m dancing with you now. 🙂
I was so happy that the justice system was nice in this case. I still smile at that poor officer filling the back of a squad car with grocery bags…LOL!!!
skylar, I really did get it all dropped and I was able to do that by proving I had insurance at the time, but the spath was excluded because he wrecks every car he drives, LIKE MINE, and that was proof that I had been responsible on my end. The courts had also been sending certified letters addressed to me, to an address my parents had 13 yrs. ago. They had sold that house and I was able to prove it. When the accident happened, the spath was alone and the ticket went to him. I flat out told the judge I wasn’t guilty and I would prove it and I did.
I was TICKED OFF. I thought about this and honestly, I went walked into the courthouse with a “mess with me and I’ll hurt you” attitude.
SPATH SLIME….I think that’s a great term for the garbage we have to clean up once we get them out of our lives. As one of my good friends said, ” And the hits just keep on coming!”
callmeathena, with love and laughter, we can make it through anything…I truly believe that!
Love and laughter,
Cat
CAT TOWANDA!!!! You go girlfriend! Good for you!!!! And, glad you are back and hope your cold is better!