A Lovefraud reader using the name Dawn H posted the following comment quite awhile ago. At the end of her story, she brings up important questions.
My ex and I grew up in the same small town. We were like Barbie and Ken”¦expected to marry and live happily ever after. I watched him grow from a very nice guy into a predator and a very evil person in just a few years. After our child was born he started a new wonderful job in a bank and quickly climbed the ladder to success. I put him through law school as he became distant and harsh and wouldn’t touch me. I found out he was bragging at work about secretaries’ children being his. One of his secretaries divorced her husband to sneak around with mine in sleazy motels and the whole time he was telling her that I carried a gun in my diaper bag, etc. I met and befriended her, she started fainting at work, they both got fired, and she moved away. He begged and cried and we did major counseling for a year and I dropped the divorce proceedings thinking he was well.
Over the next two or three years he was nice and took my calls at work, came home for supper, etc, but gradually grew distant and harsh again. I found out in ’04 that he had a 10-12 yr affair with another secretary from his new position as COO of a publicly traded banking company AND a woman in every port city from here to Beijing. He had been hiding his money all this time, so that when he was caught he would not have to share. He bought all his mistresses suits, jewelry, even paid for one’s house, while I had to pay utilities, my own food, my own insurance, car payment”¦everything from my teacher salary. He kept me literally broke while he was making almost half a million per yr and telling me we had no money because he was reinvesting it all in the company. If I wanted 200 for Christmas presents, he made me postdate a check for January, and he wouldn’t let go of his check until I let go of mine.
There was no intimacy for more than 15 yrs. He lied all day every day, but the strange thing was that he turned very dark. He would leave butcher knives out on the counter facing the stairs where I came down in the morning. I found out his mistress was the one who had been phone stalking me for 7 or 8 yrs, and their phone records were like 25 or 30 calls to each other every day, even though they worked side by side. At the same time he had many other young mistresses and kept them all ignorant of each other. After he was caught and we separated, he cried and became perfect all over again for a year counseling, then got caught at a sleazy motel with someone again.
I could tell that someone was breaking into my house while I was at the gym. He brought me Ultimate Woman vitamin pills with the seal broken and some missing! I found an empty Viagra box in his vanity drawer. This guy has 150 IQ. Someone was hacking into my bank records online, and I left tape recorders at the house to see what was going on there while I was out. On the phone from the house to women, he sounded like a dirty old man, talking naughty and naked and nasty. I wouldn’t have believed it was him. One day he would cry and hug the stuffing out of me apologizing, and the next day he was rude and hateful and couldn’t remember he had apologized. I knew my life was in danger and I had to change the locks etc. I had to tape record every conversation during separation and divorce proceedings, because he lied so much to attorneys, etc, that you couldn’t prove anything without recordings.
He had NO concern for our son’s feelings in any of this. The mistresses’ children grew up with him sneaking in through the fence to sleep with mommy, and the first one’s kids were calling him Daddy too. He found out this mistress aborted his child, and he doesn’t care. He told me one time during the proceedings “the girlfriend knows I do what I want and I get what I want, and she’s fine with that.” Children’s feelings are unimportant, but he is wining and dining our son now, like we’re in a contest ”¦ climbing the pyramids in Egypt ”¦ took him to the Great Wall of China ”¦ fly fishing in the Grand Canyon, etc. Bought a barge and stocks it with bongs and booze for my son’s friends, etc. No regard for the kids ”¦ it’s all about him and winning.
My interest in cases like this is, where do you draw the line? When do you bring in the attorneys and police and IRS? What about the children? If he’s been hiding money for years in other countries, are you just supposed to forget and forgive and move on? I’ve had the hardest time with that. God is so good to me, but when I start to recall all the craziness, I get shaky and lose sleep and I just can’t really go there anymore. I want to protect others from this victimization and I don’t want to be vindictive, but then again, I don’t want him hurting other young women. I would not doubt that he might be one of these trafficking guys. Did you know most of the WORLD’S trafficking is financed by middle-aged American businessmen? We need to wake up and do something quickly. This American businessman/ sociopath/ narcissist/ predator thing is getting out of hand.
Dawn H’s story is terrible. Most people would say the story is shocking, but that’s because most people are ignorant about sociopaths. All of us here at Lovefraud know that stories like Dawn’s are much more common than the uninitiated realize.
The man Dawn H described is clearly hurting many people—Dawn, her son, the bevy of mistresses, the mistresses’ kids, even American taxpayers, since the guy is hiding his money. He may even be complicit in the sordid the sex trade.
Whether our stories are as bad as Dawn’s or not, many of us ask ourselves the same questions that she asked at the end of her email: How do we respond?
We all have to find our own answers to the question. Following are the points and issues to consider. For the sake of convenience I am referring to the sociopaths as male, but they could be female as well.
Now vs. later
When we first realize what the sociopath was actually doing, that everything he told us was a lie, that we were exploited, our emotions are at a full boil. We are traumatized, disillusioned, furious, scared. We want to strike back. We want to tell the world that he is a liar. We wonder how we are going to survive. Our emotions rage back and forth between outrage and fear, worry and determination.
At this point, we need to prioritize. We need to figure out what we MUST do now, and what can wait, in fact, what MUST wait, until later.
Survival
The most important variable in deciding how to proceed is the possibility of violence. The best predictor of future violence is past violence. If the sociopath has been violent in the past—even if it wasn’t directed towards you—you must assume that he could be violent in the future, and you may be the target.
If you (and your children) are in physical danger, you need to do whatever will protect your safety. If the sociopath has committed crimes for which he is likely to be arrested and jailed, report them. But if his offenses are such that authorities are likely to regard them as a case of “he said-she said,” or he’s likely to get out on bail and come after you—well, it may be better not to poke the hornet’s nest.
Your first priority is survival. As long as you are alive, everything else can be addressed later.
Stability
Your second priority is stability. Many of us have been financially wiped out by the sociopaths. If you’re in this position, you need to take steps to insure your economic survival. If you’re married to the sociopath, and financially entangled, you need to figure out the best way to disengage that is healthiest for you in the long run.
In considering how far to go after the sociopath legally, here are questions to ask yourself:
- Does he have any assets? Does he have a job? Does he have documented income? If there is no money, there may be nothing to gain.
- Do you have proof of his money? If not, can you get it?
- Can you afford a legal battle? If not, perhaps you should just walk away.
- Can he afford a legal battle? Does he have a history of filing lawsuits? If he does, he’s likely to relish going to court, and will drag out the proceedings, costing you money.
- Do you have children with him? If yes, one of these two scenarios is likely: Either he will abandon his responsibilities and fail to pay child support, or he will maintain contact and use the children as pawns to torment you.
Your ultimate goal should be to get rid of the sociopath and move on with your life. Any financial or legal actions you take against him should support that goal.
Emotional recovery
An experience with a sociopath leaves us feeling like we’ve been through a meat grinder. Anger, disappointment, shame, guilt, fear, outrage, even numbness—we probably cycle through all of them.
It’s exhausting.
We need to find our peace of mind. For some of us, it may be the first time that we consciously pursue peace of mind. Many of us were filled with vulnerability and turmoil, which attracted the sociopaths in the first place.
In deciding how far to go after the sociopath, therefore, we must also consider our emotional recovery. Lovefraud’s standard advice for recovery from the sociopath is No Contact—not having any interaction at all with him. No conversations. No phone calls. No email. No in-person encounters.
Going after the sociopath may entail some kind of contact. If you go to court, you’ll have to deal with him. If you want to expose him on the Internet, you may need to monitor his Facebook page. This means, as we say on Lovefraud, you are “renting him space in your head.” Thinking about the sociopath is a form of contact.
On the other hand, going after him may be important to your emotional recovery. By doing it, you are not allowing him to walk all over you. Standing up to him may benefit your self-esteem, and allow you to recover your identity.
Only you know what you need.
Making the sociopath accountable
Personally, I think it’s important to do what you can to make the sociopath accountable for his destructive actions. BUT you may want to think carefully about WHEN and HOW you take action.
If you have evidence that the sociopath committed a crime, report him to the authorities. Maybe the crime you report isn’t prosecuted, but it could help establish his pattern of behavior if another person reports a crime.
If, like many Lovefraud readers, you don’t want the sociopath to do to someone else what he did to you, you may want to warn the next victim, or expose the sociopath. I’ve written previously on both of these topics:
Letters to Lovefraud: Should I warn the next victim?
Perhaps you can’t take action against the sociopath right away because you need to attend to your own safety, stability and recovery. But maybe, when you are stronger, you can do something to stop the exploitative behavior.
Sociopaths get away with their immoral, unethical and sometimes criminal behavior because people do not stand up to them. So I think that when we can do so safely, we should speak up and take action. Sociopaths will continue their destructive behavior until they are stopped.
ABSOLUTELY! No accountability. You are on the money. Thank you for the reminder. I could never figure out how the spath ever got his work done if he was on-line all day pestering me and our children. CONTROL.
Louise, thanks a million for the confirmation.
To all: This site has been so validating for me. Although my therapist had me read The Sociopath Next Door, this is so much better. Gas lighting is very scary, been through that too.
I have been thinking about renting the movie “Gas Light” but I am afraid it will bring me back to a place I would rather forget. There are certain smell, foods that trigger me to remembering my past life. I even got rid of some of the clothes I had when I was going through the divorce, and the spath was stalking me. I could not even look at them. Too many bad memories.
Did anyone experience anything similar?
louise 🙂
i look at the last few years as the ‘tri-fecta’ of ick. first there was an n gf, then an n or spath boss, then the spath.
then i realized that my father is an n…
at my last job i used some anti-spath tactics on the HORRIBLE board of directors and they worked.
i never expected this job to go they way it has – but i have to last either the 11 weeks or the 22 weeks it may be. they have completely destabilized my project. i will know in a couple of weeks if we go ahead or not.
Louise, I just wanted to pop in and let you know how the Zerona body toner treatments have been going. It’s been a stressful process. I’ve been on a very strict diet (I call it a food-free diet) for nearly 3 weeks now. I have 2 sessions left. That will make 3 weeks of treatments. It was touch and go for a while, dealing with this flaky doctor. But today I went to work and everyone’s jaw dropped at how good I look. I looked in the mirror and for the first time in my life, I see an hourglass. I don’t know if it could have been done with the diet alone. But whatever it is, it’s working. I’ve lost almost 10 lbs so far in the last few weeks. My waist is much smaller. I still have a little tummy which I’d like to get rid of. I may need to extend the diet out a few more weeks. But wow! I definitely see a difference. I’m picking out clothes that show off my new svelte figure. I feel like a million bucks! I think my co-workers are a little jealous. But hopefully it will inspire them to lose some weight, too. They were already talking today about the body-for-life program.
P.S. I go off the diet on Sunday. One joy, taunt me all you wish. I only have 4 more days! Although I will cheat at my holiday party on Thursday and have a chocolate pistachio cannoli. 🙂
First real food I’m having on Sunday? Eggplant parmigiana from the Olive Garden. It’s my favorite food. I can’t wait!
Sorry for the interruption.
Star – did you not see my post of support the other day? as soon as you said you were struggling i stopped taunting you. it’s awesome to have fun, but i don’t want to kick a girl when she’s down…10 lbs!
SuvivorAgain and one/joy:
Oh, baby, the stories I could tell you about my old workplace.
SuvivorAgain: I know exactly what you are talking about. I have no idea how my X spath got anything done at work (mind you, he is also a high level executive) while he was constantly pursuing his next female target (who were most of the time subordinates). Constant…emails, texts, meetings in conference rooms…the list goes on and on. He just bamboozled his way through with his charm and wit. He never got in trouble because no one ever had the guts to report him. It is all about CONTROL. You are right.
one/joy:
I can so relate to the trifecta…mine was more like a quadfecta.
Louise: My spath (ex-husband now) HORRAY, is also an executive. I , too, cannot figure out how he kept his job and how he got his work done. Spath recently got fired — now self-employed. Called me at home with the children, watched my debit card transactions on line and then yelled at me on the telephone about my purchases. Here is a really good one, when I took the telephone off the hook because the children were napping, the spath could then all be later when the telephone was back on the hook at scream at me that he needed to be able to call me whenever he wanted. I had to give the spath a list of every single thing I did all day long with our children beginning at 5:30am. So I did minute by minute.
I learned in therapy, you need to disengage. The more I distanced myself from the spath, with comments like “I am sure you will figure it out”, the more angry he got. No drama and that is what they thrive on. You must get rid of the drama.
One,
sorry that is happening at work. Be prepared to find that no matter how prepared you are, you’re gonna get slimed. I think, really, that there is no way around it.
I’m not saying you will lose the battle or the war, but it will take its toll. There are lots of things you can do to minimize the impact but the most effective for me is to pay attention to my spirituality (that’s onejoy speak for “leaning on God”) 🙂
There is a logical reason why this works, I think, I’m not sure.
I’ve been reading the science of evil, and the author quotes another dude about the “pot of gold” that parents give their children. It’s the sense of safety and being loved that carries them through life. People who don’t have it are fearful and stressed. I believe hording and materialism are some of the results of not having your own “pot of gold”.
Well, I didn’t get a pot of gold from my parents but I think that my belief in God is what I’ve substituted for it. My belief in a loving God has helped me deal with the spaths and not be so afraid.
Whatever spiritual beliefs you have about the universe and the balance in it – don’t forget to lean on them.
Stargazer:
Wow! Fantastic!!! I am so happy for you! Thanks for the report! Keep it up! 🙂
Good Night — thank you again for everything.