I’m going to address a disturbing subject: the motives, the thinking, of men who eliminate—yes, who murder—their partners.
But first a caveat: Females also sometimes eliminate their partners and share, I suspect, similar mindsets and motives with male murderous eliminators.
And so what I write, here, applies, I suspect, across gender lines.
One other caveat—when I use the term “eliminate,” as you might suspect, I’m excluding killings in self-defense, of passion, and as responses to insufferable abuse. This will be apparent as the discussion unfolds.
Last, by “eliminate,” I refer to two possible means of disposing of a partner—by one’s own hands, or by outsourcing the job.
So let’s hit the ground running: Why would a man murderously eliminate his partner? Here’s the short, but surprisingly complete, answer: He’d eliminate her because he perceives that she’s in his way.
That is, he experiences her as an unacceptable obstruction; and he concludes, eventually, that the only solution is to remove, to eliminate, the obstruction (her).
In the mind of the murderous eliminator, the partner to be eliminated is impeding something very important to him; something that feels vital to his selfish interests; something that promises him gratification that he must have; and something to which he feels strongly, compellingly entitled.
These factors of his thinking, in combination, support and groom his eliminationist mindset.
The idea that he should be denied access to what he wants feels wrong, intolerable. Worse, it feels like an injustice. And so he grows to resent, increasingly, the obstructive entity (his partner); and increasingly, he rationalizes the validity of his growing resentment.
The murderous partner believes, in his entitlement, that he is meant to have this “something,” this “experience” that he covets, as if destiny has promised it.
Consequently, whatever or whoever stands in his way assumes antagonistic, hostile properties, further supporting his rationalization that the obstruction (or obstructor!) isn’t just an inconvenient nuisance, but worse, malignantly undermining.
And so he develops a warped, almost paranoid view that the thwarting factor is inimical to the fulfillment of his agenda. This is a view that supports his inwardly germinating position that he is justified, if necessary, to remove the source of the interference.
It follows, then, that for the murderous eliminator, his partner isn’t just an object to him, which, of course, she entirely is; more than that, she is an object that is in the way of his getting something he’s determined to have, and to which, by now, as I’ve suggested, he feels completely, even desperately, entitled.
I repeat: the combination of these attitudes conspires to ripen his receptivity to the budding idea, to the cold-logic necessity, of eliminating his partner, if this is what’s necessary to ensure his access to what he covets and believes deeply is his right to possess.
Consider the archetypal case of the man who eliminates his spouse to end up with his mistress. In this scenario, from the murderous eliminator’s perspective, the spouse impedes, obstructs his access to his mistress.
Because he is desperate to have his mistress, and because his desperation is inextricable from his sense of entitlement, he experiences his spouse’s existence as less than merely a frustrating inconvenience than as a threat to his determination, capacity and right to possess what he feels he must, and deserves to, have (his mistress).
I’ve used the word threat carefully. Remember, threats must be trouble-shot. Whenever anything, in our minds, reaches a level of threat, we feel justified to act to remove it. This is a normal, and not necessarily sociopathic, reaction.
However the sociopath, in his abject narcissism, will experience limits to, constraints on, the gratification he is pursuing as threats! He will feel outraged, if not enraged, at circumstances that interfere with his pursuit of intensely coveted gratifications.
In his mind, these obstructions are perceived as threatening.
I stress: he will perceive these obstructions not just as the unwelcome, inconvenient life interferences with which most of us, grudgingly, come to terms; rather, from his more paranoid, grandiose perspective, he’ll perceive them as personal threats to his right to feel gratified in the way that he wants to feel gratified.
For the murderous eliminator, nothing must interfere with his plan—in this case, to clear a path to his mistress!
There may be children involved. He may spare the children if he thinks they won’t obstruct his plans. If this is the case, it may be enough to eliminate only their mother, who is in the way, while sparing the youngsters, who may not be.
To be clear, his decision to spare the children is made easier if he perceives that, in so doing, he isn’t jeopardizing his access to his mistress, the paramount consideration.
Conversely, it’s possible that he may deem the children, too, and not just their mother, as irremediable obstacles, in which case they, too, will be perceived as threats.
In this case he may feel the need and, on a twisted level, the right, to eliminate them as well.
This is all morbid stuff, of course, but we know that it happens. But who thinks like this? What kind of individual thinks like this? Most sociopaths don’t murder their spouses, or eliminate their families, to be with a mistress.
At the same time, only a sociopath is capable of conceiving, and executing, such a calculated, callous, coldblooded, selfish, murderous plan.
ErinBrock,
It’s so helpful to hear about your experience. Much like yourself, it took me losing everything (health, wealth, etc.) before I found the strength to escape and expose my p-husband with an attitude of “enough is enough, I know the truth and I’m not afraid of dying.”
Since I’ve been out of direct proximity, however, this attitude has waned and I find myself paralyzed with fear. What keeps fueling this feeling is the realization that almost nobody takes what happened (and is happening) to me seriously or finds it concerning. The general police advice: “Your best bet is to get away from the guy and get a divorce.” So that’s what I did first – I got far away, filed for divorce and went into hiding.
And no, he is facing no criminal action and has a perfect record. It was his motivation to protect his image and highly successful career that led him to try to murder me and hide it. I’m hoping it is this same motivation that will keep him from directly harming me, as with other people knowing the truth, he couldn’t get away with it. Pressing charges for his attempt to take my life seems like a bad idea, as it would once again jeopardize the things he cares about and wants to protect. Without any investment in protecting the image, I’m afraid he would become destablized and more dangerous. Scary.
He is aware I have the recordings (after getting his permission to share one with our therapist, strangely enough). Now he’s saying that I violated his civil rights, however, because I asked for his permission to share the recording *after* I made it. Meanwhile, I’ve been careful to put the recordings into safe keeping with lawyers/police and have informed him of this for my safety.
To be honest, I’m having a really hard time taking my life back and have never felt more hopeless, disempowered and silenced than I do now. Thanks for letting me know there is hope, however, and that standing firm can work in the end. It would be nice if this doesn’t have to ruin the rest of my life (even though it feels like it right now).
Speaking of which – Do you (or anyone) know of any intensive treatment programs for recovering from this kind of situation or working through this? Even though I’ve been doing everything I can on my own and have a weekly therapist, it’s clear that I need more help. Unfortunately, I keep finding that it’s common for many in the mental health community to pathologize a woman like myself rather than acknowledge she was a blameless victim and is now suffering from the after effects of unconscionable trauma.
OxDrover,
Thanks for book recommendations! I find that reading and learning helps me process and understand what happened to me.
And you’re right — As much as I’m compelled to defend myself or keep trying to convince people of the truth, I’m learning the hard lesson that I need to not give a damn what other people think. It’s really hard for me though, because I care about people!
Don’t know if you’ve read The Betrayal Bond by Patrick Carnes, but the chapter called “The Misperceptions of Others” really hit home. It begins by saying, “Once you have clarity about reality you must be willing to risk that others will misperceive you.”
He continues on to describe that survivors want others to understand them, but even with perfect explanations of what has happened, many people will not understand/believe it and may even question the survivor’s motivations/conduct. Carnes attributes this to the problem of shame:
“Shame is a part of our internal guidance system, which tells us what is appropriate. Survivors embedded in traumatic shame become so other-directed that they lose their sense of self. They feel like the exploitation is their fault. The abuser, however, remains shameless. The victim becomes more desperate for the approval of others. For the victim, shame ceases to be a tool for appropriate action and becomes a prison from which there is a loss of autonomy and freedom.”
It certainly feels like I’m stuck in that prison most of the time. But you’re so right — No matter what other people think, it does not change the truth or reality of what happened. My problem is that without other people’s acknowledgement, I’m falling back into wondering if I really am crazy. Even with my husband’s confession of attempting to take my life and ample evidence to the contrary, other people’s continued blame causes me to doubt myself.
Dear Comesthedawn,
Oh, boy! Can I RELATE!!!!! I’m not sure how long you have been “out” of this mess physically. I’ve read the Betrayal Bond and several other books, I have a huge stack of books about recovery from trauma etc. as well as having blogged here and read here for coming on three years I think.
My P-son who is in prison sent one of his X cell mates to off me to make him eligible for an inheritence from a family trust…other wise he gets nothing if my egg donor (mother) dies before I do. I went into hiding in 2007. I’m out of hiding now, but living VERY CAUTIOUSLY and hoping my son’s parole is DENIED in January of next year. I’m somewhat at risk as long as he is alive, but if he is out, the risk increases to certainty that he will come after me He has no shame, and nothing to protect and he isn’t afraid of prison, so even if he knew he would get caught, he would still do it.
I also know that there is NO WAY my egg donor, who appears like the “sweetest of old ladies,” is ever going to be seen by her friends, our extended family, or the community as anything but a “saint.” In fact, she is a TOXIC enabler of my P-son, and has never even liked me, much less been concerned with my welfare. My other two sons (one Bio and one adopted) know what she is, but she has carefully protected her “mask” and always will.
Quit thinking that you are crazy—YOU ARE NOT CRAZY! Reality doesn’t change just because you are the only one that can see it. TRUTH is TRUTH. REAL is REAL. I thought that there had to be someone ELSE to validate truth for it to be true, or real for it to be real, because some how I wasn’t good or smart enough to validate myself, my own view of things, but I AM. I can VALIDATE MYSELF and so can you!!!!
Make a life for yourself, live cautiously but NOT IN TERROR. I realized that the worst thing they can do to me is to kill me. SO? I’m going to die someday anyway! We all are, but I will NOT live the coward’s life, dying ever day, all day. I’m only going to die ONCE. I live with CAUTION. I won’t go down without a fight! I’m doing my best to keep him in prison. Hired an attorney to argue against his parole. I contacted the people who need to be contacted. I won’t go down without a fight, but if he gets parole even against all that, then I will move on to another place to live and I have made preparation that he will not be able to find me. I won’t go FAR in terms of miles, but there will be NO paper trail to where I am that he or anyone else can follow.
I’ve also realized that the “things” and “stuff” I have had to give up (or might have to give up again) my home, etc. are just that, STUFF. They are NOT me! In the end, they are not anything that is even important.
It has been a roller coaster of a road, with many hills and valleys and sharp turns and stomach churning things and curves but what doesn’t kill us makes us stronger.
You will get plenty of acknowledgement here, because most of us have been through some pretty traumatic turns with our psychopaths. Some of us got vindication, or vindication of a sort, and some of us got NO vindication, but it really doesn’t matter in the end, we have to validate and vindicate ourselves! (((Hugs))))) and God bless.
oxy – this IS AN AWESOME LINE:
‘Reality doesn’t change just because you are the only one that can see it. ‘
That’s the centre we all need to find; our point of reference needs to be within ourselves.
Thank you, One_step,
I agree it is awesome, but easier “said than done.” I think I had been so programmed from youth that what I believed, saw or thought was no where near as important as “what the neighbors think.” THAT was what was “reality” even if it had nothing to do with What was TRUE! Took me 6 decades to realize it!
This is something I need to hear.
I have been working on not caring what other’s think.
As I know the Spath is telling his parents, her parents and her what an awful person I am.
Of course I don’t need to tell you it isn’t true.
This comes into my thinking every once in a while. I get upset because I know HIS parents should know better. His mother was one of my supporters when my world began to fall apart…he moved in with the GF, and his mom would bring me meals, do my laundry and continued to be my son’s nanny.
I am sure she NOW thinks I am the “evil” one, causing all the legal trouble. When I have been a saint…oxy will corroborate this : ) I follow all orders to a T, I don’t instigate trouble, and do what my attorney advises.
I just wish (sometimes) that people could see the truth and horror of what he’s really putting me through, especially the GF; but she only helps to instigate trouble.
🙁
It really helps when the veterans can help up amatures get some perspective and validation.
Thank you.
Dear FAD,
Sugar as we have said here before over and over and ovr (but that doesn’t make it any easier!) THE ONLY VALIDATION YOU ARE GONNA GET, OR CLOSURE ETC, is what YOU make yourself. They will never let you have it! They will continue to try and make you out the bad guy.
Honey, my P-son is a MURDERER, he killed a girl in COLD BLOOD and my egg donor BELIEVES HIM, not me! So go FIGURE!!!!! She calls me a liar to my face, while she had a lie IN HER MOUTH SHE HASN’T HAD TIME TO SWALLOW, believe me, we all get trash talked.
As for your MIL—she is going to believe what she WANTS to believe and it ain’t you, GF! She’s gonna believe what makes her feel the best, not what is the truth.
You have GOT TO get the idea out of your head that these folks are gonna see the truth! Believe me, I KEPT ON HOPING FOR THEM TO SEE THE TRUTH, but like Jesus said, “they have eyes and see not, they have ears and hear not.”
When you start to panic, just breathe in and breathe out and tell yourself “I KNOW THE TRUTH—and the truth will set me free, but first it is gonna PITH ME OFF!” (((((hugs))))))
When I first realized that people would believe my p-husband rather than acknowledge the truth of what he was doing, a wise man responded to my frustrations by saying “some people would rather be bitten by a snake than admit it exists.”
It still absolutely mystifies me that people act in this manner. But then I recall my p-husband telling me that there was no hope for me convincing people of the truth. With a smirk, he smugly said, “This is the really incredible thing … I can turn people into temporary sociopaths toward you.”
He explained that all he had to do is plant emotional investments in people. Then they would always choose those beliefs, making up the logic to support them as they went along. He said that the really clever part of this tactic is that any conflicting information presented to them would only make them hold more firmly to their beliefs, due to how it made them feel.
Up until this moment, I’d always looked at my husband as being slightly socially challenged. In an instant, I realized that I didn’t know him at all and saw a complete stranger before me. He actually understood people incredibly well and enjoyed using that knowledge to sadistically hurt them (or get them to hurt others for him). This moment will be seared in my mind forever and still leaves me shell shocked.
Thank God there was one (just one) person who wasn’t so malleable, saw through the nearly flawless illusion and listened to me. As my p-husband admitted, “he saved your life.”
comesthedawn, that’s what my Spath co-workers did on a daily basis. It is considered the ultimate SPORT to a Spath to devour, confuse and toss aside anyone they wish. That’s their power. They are All well adapted at planting seeds, watering them, and watching their destruction from afar. I used to think that I was working among 5 year olds that had temper tantrums with a sibling or best playmate that was spending the day. Then mommy and daddy (aka the manager) would drive into the driveway to come upon the children pouting, and the instigator ran up to the parents and spilled their story out to parents who were concerned that something was afoot. You know the saga? Drained out/overworked parents … the first story heard is the story they run with. Meanwhile, Johnny or Joanie sibling/visitor gets the short end of the stick, always and forever because untruths have been planted in the parents brains by the clever child that ran first to spill their guts. Who has the time to find out, or who would ever think to find out if the seeds planted were truth or a lie?
I swear, Spaths have been perfecting their deceitful moves since the age of 4 or 5.
Wini, your quite right,spaths love to cause confusion dissent, anger, grief, guilt,a whole range of emotions. looking back,I was like Oxy, always in denial re my girls and my ex husband,, always trying to fix everything,work harder, do more, deny my needs, enable and fix everyone elses problems. My younger spath d was a little manipulative biatch from around the age of 7 looking back. Always bossy, always got her own way,hell, kids used to ring up to ask her what to wear that day!From the age of 5 , she could command attention, and was very popular.She basically never forgave me for leaving her dad,even tho I was bashed almost unconscious.Whe I married D, my second husband, we both did everything we could to make the girls felt loved. looking back, I turned myself into a human pretzel for them, out ofa misplaced and undeserved sense of guilt, which of course, they played on!But NOTHING could prepare me for the sheer bitchery, cruelty and BADNESS of never one allowing me to see her kids, now 14, 11, and 2 years old.I recently found pics of the 3 of them on Gsons FB, the first time Id ever seen pics of them!How can I explain my feelings? Joy at seeing the pics, anger and sadness that Im not allowed to meet them, rage at my cruel spath D for denying these kids another set of loving Grand parents.I left a message for my unknown G daughter, telling her I was her other Grandma, her Mum would not let us meet, I had done nothing wrong, and one day, I hoped we could meet. I told her I loved them all. next day, her FB was locked down,{as I expected would happen}, so Im very glad I saved these precious pics. Im GLAD I sent that message to R,as maybe one day, it will cause her to question her Mothers decision to lock me out of their lives.While we are in this FOG of fear, denial and false guilt, we are unable to grasp the sheer bitchery and evil of their actions.!! Its beyond belief how inhuman and heartless they are.My conscience is clear, Ive done NOTHING bad to my 2 girls, in fct, I have OVER given to them. Now, I have to let go, let God, and move forward and accept the things I cannot change but have courage to change the things I can.next weekend, our new adult “kids” from Iran are spending the weekend with us, to celebrate their 2nd wedding Anniversary, well havea lovely, fun time, and were both looking forward to it! My older spaths 46th Birthday in 3 days time, I found it very hard NOT to send her birthday card, Oxy threatened to boink me one if I did. I still have some love for her,even tho she is so toxic to me. Much Love to all of you, thanks so much, everyone for all your input, and support, and wise council!! Mama Gem.XXX