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bluejay
14 years ago

pollyannanomore,

“I know I couldn’t survive another encounter with one of these devils – I’m just too fragile after my ordeal.” I second what you say, hearing you loud and clear. It is an unbelievable, hellish journey (full of more pain than I thought was humanly possible), wiping you out. Recovery is slow, getting there on wobbly legs.

Buttons
14 years ago

Bluejay, what I have found interesting in my personal experiences is that, when I thought myself to be most fragile, this would be the time when I ran up against another one of these Things.

Each encounter becomes easier and easier to peg for what it is, and walking away, shutting them down, excising them from my life, and taking away another tiny bit of wisdom is how it has progressed. Yes, I may find myself in the middle of another spath mess with a new, and more creative spath, but I’ll have this site to refer to for the red flags and the resources to take care of Buttons.

pollyannanomore
14 years ago

Bluejay – normal people just don’t understand it. You can’t possibly understand it till you’ve been through it. I’ve taken time out from dating to educate myself as best as I can because next time I bang into one I want to be able to recognise them quickly and cut them off cold.

Buttons – t hat’s my fear. It would be easy to recognise them if they were each fascimile copies of one another but each is different and the disorder manifests in a multitude of ways. I’m developing my intuition and listening to it – that may be the best warning system we have in addition to education about signs and symptoms.

blueskies
14 years ago

“What has happened to all of us here is attempted murder ”“ and not a quick attempt. But rather an attempt that took place over months or years or decades. Psychopaths attempt to murder us psychologically, emotionally and spiritually. That has a profound effect when we’re out of the toxic relationship ”“ the echoes of the abuse carry on for so long. And hardly anyone understands the aftermath.”
That is so amazing Polly:).So well put.

bluejay
14 years ago

Buttons,

I hope that I am through encountering these people. What’s interesting is that I have learned that two people I know through work might have a spath in their lives (just from talking to them, finding out what they have experienced, causing me to suspect that they might have exposure to a spath). One person is 25 years old, having lived with a guy for several years, raising kids together. Yesterday, I was talking to her, telling her a little bit about myself, why I was separated from my h-spath and she told me that as I was talking, a bell went off in her head, realizing that her boyfriend has a problem with lying too. We had to end our conversation (busy at work) and she looked at me, smiled, and said, “you are not alone.” That was somewhat comforting to hear, thinking to myself that she is so young and unfortunately involved with a guy who lies. Personally, when I was her age, I would like to think that I would not have stuck it out with such a person, moving on to someone having a better character. What I need to try and do is make my life as rich as possible, Silvermoon, being right about how precious life is, not wasting it on stuff that is so unproductive, dragging you down. It’s hard to do when you have to deal with the nitty-gritty in life, sometimes others throwing stuff your way that ticks you off. Take care.

bluejay
14 years ago

pollyannanomore,

Your posts are very helpful, totally relating to your experiences. You are very good at describing your experiences and the aftermath of getting tangled up with a spath. Your life is blown to smithereens and somehow you have to get up and make a new life, hopefully, one that is DRAMA free. That’s my goal. These people create problems galore, so you spend your time trying to resolve problems, thinking one is taken care of, then another one pops up. To me, it is a life of never-ending problems, getting sick of the whole mess. That’s another reason to get them out of your life.

Dani S
14 years ago

I have been thinking of you all at the moment but my computer is at the doctors so haven’t been able to get on as much as I would like
pollyannanomore what you said about attempted murder really hit home to me. My ex H Spath used to verbally attack me for years, usually when he felt he needed to be defensive to deflect me asking him question. I would be so confused what I was even getting yelled at half the time and he always ended it with, “Just kill yourself Dani” ” look at you, you are a worthless c…” In the end not only did I feel totally worthless but being told to kill my self over and over in the end I thought maybe I should. It was like he was trying to talk me into it…. I am sure he would have loved to have played the poor widow of a mental women that killed herself. How heartless are these people, they love to destroy people and why? I only ever wanted to love him. I also had a break down and my therapist said I was suffering from PTSD

FPT just keep writing and writing, it makes you feel so much better putting it out.
I try to use the pain to make my life better, I will have a great life without him in spite of him lol…how dare they take us for everything we have and then go for more, destroying our souls, trust and love for life that we had before we met them.
And also our good names, my ex is still currently telling the worst possible lies about me so people feel sorry for him, I wish he would just fall down a big black hole and stay there.

Anyway I met someone really nice and think it maybe L….. but it is hard to get used to this one not texting every hour and phoning all the time and dropping in and not going home and not talking about our amazing future together and not wanting to borrow money…. i guess he is normal but it kind of feels weird being with someone after a all too consuming Spath! 🙂

Buttons
14 years ago

Dani S, good for you! Take it slow and just be vigilant.

The slow murder of the soul is probably worse than anything else. It is insidious, and I didn’t see how it was progressing.

Very good posts on this board.

Dani S
14 years ago

Hi Buttons,
It was a very good post and reminded me of how cruel and sinister they can be. Thank you and I am taking it slow and vigilant, it raises a lot of anxiety starting a new relationship. The fear of going through a relationship like the last one sometimes makes you want to crawl up into that protective ball and not bother. But I have to start living again so i will with my damaged heart and soul try start to trust again. I just don’t think i could survive another spath! There have been no red flags yet so fingers crossed, just seemed weird being with someone that is not selling me the world. It is calm and peaceful! 🙂

Buttons
14 years ago

Dani S, that’s wonderful to hear! And, it’s weird not feeling off-balance, isn’t it? That’s absolutely wonderful!!!

Brightest blessings to you!!!!

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