• Menu
  • Skip to right header navigation
  • Skip to primary navigation
  • Skip to main content
  • Skip to primary sidebar
  • Skip to footer

Lovefraud | Escape sociopaths – narcissists in relationships

How to recognize and recover from everyday sociopaths - narcissists

  • Search
  • Cart
  • My Account
  • Contact
  • Register
  • Log in
  • Search
  • Cart
  • My Account
  • Contact
  • Register
  • Log in
  • About
  • Talk to Donna
  • Videos
  • Store
  • Blog
  • News
  • Podcasts
  • Webinars
  • About
  • Talk to Donna
  • Videos
  • Store
  • Blog
  • News
  • Podcasts
  • Webinars

Once we know what they are–we must maintain No Contact

You are here: Home / Recovery from a sociopath / Once we know what they are–we must maintain No Contact

April 1, 2011 //  by Lovefraud Reader//  1,591 Comments

Tweet
Share
Pin
Share
0 Shares

By Ox Drover

One of the themes that seems to run throughout the stories of many of, if not most of, the people who have had experiences with psychopaths is that we have either had repeated episodes of being abused by the same psychopath, even after we saw their dishonesty, or had episodes of being sucked into the webs of multiple psychopaths. Or, we have both of these—multiple episodes with multiple psychopaths.

Most of the people I have known who were formerly victims of psychopaths are not stupid. In fact, some of the smartest, most accomplished people I know are former victims, and have been repeatedly victimized by one psychopath after finding out that this person was dishonest and abusive. Somehow, they kept on going back to the relationship, even after multiple attempts to disengage from the abuser. Why? Why does a person who is smart, accomplished, and otherwise successful in life and business keep repeating the same behavior that allows them to be hurt?

There is an often-used quote, “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” It seems by this definition that the victims of psychopaths are “insane,” because we keep on trying to have a relationship with someone who is repeatedly abusive. There must be some reason that otherwise smart and successful people keep repeating the behavior that is unsuccessful in its outcome. There must be some common thread among victims and former victims that makes us susceptible to frequently returning to an unsuccessful and painful relationship.

Here’s a little story that may contain what may be a grain of truth that might point us toward the answer to the question of. “Why?”

The Chief and the Snake

Once upon a time there was a very wise and kind Indian chief. One day as the chief was walking through the forest, he came upon a rattlesnake in the path. He stopped and started to go around the snake, not wanting to hurt it, but not wanting to be bitten either.

As the chief started to pass around the snake, the snake spoke to him (not an unusual thing in those days) and said, “Chief, please have mercy on me, my wife and family are on the other side of yonder river, and I can’t swim, and I can’t get to them. Won’t you please pick me up and carry me across the river?”

The chief looked at the snake and laughed a bit and said, “Why, if I tried to pick you up you would bite me and I would die. I am sad that you have a problem but I must not be bitten, or I would die and my own children would starve because there would be no strong man with a bow to hunt brother deer to provide meat to my little ones. Though my heart feels sad for you, no, I must refuse to pick you up.”

The snake then spoke to the chief saying, “But such a brave man as you should not be afraid of such a small snake as I, and I promise from the bottom of my heart that I would never harm you if you were to help me across yon river. I am so afraid that if I am not able to get across, my wife and children will perish. Please help me in my hour of need.”

The chief looked at the snake and his heart was sad because he knew what it was like to have one’s children without food. His heart took pity on the snake, and he agreed to take the snake across the river, if the snake would agree not to bite him.

The chief reached out to pick up the snake and held him high over his head as he waded the swift and cold waters of the river. About half way across the river when the chief was doing his best to protect the snake from the cold waters, the snake reached down and bit him on the neck, sinking his poison fangs deep into the chief’s blood stream.

The chief was surprised and said to the snake, “Brother Snake, why did you bite me, now I will die and you will drown as well. You promised on your honor not to bite me if I would have mercy on you and help you, now we shall both die and our children starve. You promised me.”

The snake replied, “Ah yes, I promised, but you knew what I was when you picked me up,” as they both sank under the swirling cold water of the river.

What we have in common with the chief

What caused the chief to reach out and pick up a snake that he knew was poisonous, that he knew had the power to harm him, and that if he was wrong in making this decision to pick up the snake, and the snake did bite him, that his own children would suffer because of his decision?

Empathy is what the chief had, empathy for the children of the snake. Because the chief loved his own children, he assumed that the snake must also love its children. Just as the chief would do what was best for his children, he empathized that the snake would also do what was best. Since the chief knew that he would never do anything deliberately to cause consequences for his children, he did not see that the snake would deliberately do something that would cause problems for his own offspring.

Thinking that others have the same motivations that we have can get us into the same problems that the chief got into. The chief wanted to help the snake. He felt pity for the snake. He knew that he would not want someone to refuse to help him if it meant that he would die and his children would go hungry, so it never dawned on him that the snake would be willing to make a decision to do a deed that would insure that the snake-children would go hungry.

The chief’s empathy and his thinking that others had the same empathy, the same motivation for their behavior, and no reason to hurt another, even at the cost of hurting themselves or their near and dear, caused him to want to believe the snake’s promise not to bite.

The snake, however, was right. The chief knew what he was when he picked him up. When we allow ourselves to believe the promises of people who have proven that they are dishonest, we open ourselves to be repeatedly injured or even killed. When someone shows you what they are, believe your eyes. Believe what you see, not what you hear.

No Contact

“No contact” is the commonly accepted “treatment” for any abusive relationship. This means that only contact that is required by law (such as meeting that person in a courtroom due to a law uit) or the minimum amount of contact required by law to co-parent with such a person, is the only interaction between you and your former abuser. No contact allows the injuries to cease, and keeps you safe from new and repeated injuries from the abuser.

“No contact” also includes not stalking the person’s Facebook page or other social media. It means blocking or deleting any text messages, phone calls, e-mails or any other form of communication, including having others tell you what the former abuser is “up to.” Refusing to engage in tale carrying, gossip, or drama involved with the former abuser is also essential. If you must speak about the relationship, do it ONLY with a trusted friend or family member who sees that the relationship was/is abusive, and with assurances that the person will keep your information in absolute confidence. This process can be likened to “not renting them space in your head,” which includes wondering if they have a new relationship, and if they are making this new person happy o,r if they will change for this new person, or wondering if you were wrong about what they are.

You know what they are now, so don’t pick them up. NO CONTACT WORKS.

Category: Recovery from a sociopath

Previous Post: « Pain connections, emotional and physical
Next Post: LETTERS TO LOVEFRAUD: None of us stood a chance if I didn’t get out »

Reader Interactions

Comments

  1. FightAnotherDay

    May 6, 2011 at 5:43 pm

    Okay. Sticking to the letter is best.

    Skylar, Do you approve of my wording?

    Thanks.

    Going to take a good friend out for her birthday.

    Happy Mother’s Day girls!

    Log in to Reply
  2. skylar

    May 6, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    FAD,
    perfect.

    Log in to Reply
  3. Ox Drover

    May 6, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    You know, it will be a wonderful day with my adopted son D….I bombed out on the biological offspring, but I sure hit gold when I found D!

    Last year he gave me the sweetest card and wrote on it “No, you may not have given birth to me, but your deeds are those of a mother. Your words, your actions and your love are more appreciated than I can say. Looking back on all we have been through together, I now that we can face whatever may come in the future. Thank you so much for being a part of my life and for letting me be a part of yours.

    I have a wall-sized bulletin board behind my desk in my office and that card is prominently displayed there where I see it every time I sit down….it is one of my most precious things in the world.

    Log in to Reply
  4. Hope to heal

    May 6, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    Dear Oxy ~ sounds like you did indeed strike gold with that boy!! I’m so glad for you 🙂

    Here’s a big Mother’s Day hug to you (((((OXY))))) for all the wonderful motherly advice you give around here.

    Love, H2H

    Log in to Reply
  5. ElizabethBennett

    May 6, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    I really hate being alone right now. It’s really hard.

    Log in to Reply
  6. Ox Drover

    May 6, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    Thank you Hope2, I am indeed fortunate with that young man! He is GOOD TO THE BONE!

    Log in to Reply
  7. FightAnotherDay

    May 6, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    Oxy,

    Indeed, you deserve a hug.

    (((((((hug)))))))

    🙂

    <3 FAD

    Log in to Reply
  8. FightAnotherDay

    May 6, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    Hi again.
    Jerkface also asked for additional time for Jr.’s b-day (although he has him all day the day before). I am, of course, saying NO.
    Jr. is having a hard enough time adjusting to the new day care Jerkface “forced” us into, he needs as much consistent time there as possible.

    Need I explain?

    FAD

    Thanks. I just have to feel right about this.

    Log in to Reply
  9. ElizabethBennett

    May 6, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    I’ve never had this kind of trouble being alone before. I discarded all the toxic N people out of my life with all their drama and it feels so incredibly lonely. My neighbor is over there on the other side of that wall and I wish I could be like her-not bothered by being alone. She doesn’t care about being alone. I know I can’t be with her cuz it’s not right. I guess I don’t know how to be without the drama in my life. It hurts really bad.

    Log in to Reply
  10. Ox Drover

    May 6, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    Dear Nolarn,

    Yea, we kind of get used to the drama kind of like the “background” noise of a city and when you move to the country it is “too quiet.”

    My X friend keeps her TV on all the time (plus lives in town) so she is used to having noise all the time, and when she would come out here she would complain about the lack of noise—-even when she goes out to her cabin in the country she keeps a TV going all the time.

    I like quiet, and noise bothers me….but it does take some getting used to….and the thing is that it will feel strange for a while to not have so much drama in your life….but this is a good time to get to KNOW YOURSELF…to listen to yourself, to find out what it is that you really want….then set out to get it. Do what is necessary to make your dreams come true.

    Make some positive friends—do some positive things, but most of all, get to know yourself.

    Log in to Reply
« Older Comments
Newer Comments »

Leave a Reply Cancel reply

You must be logged in to post a comment.

Primary Sidebar

Shortcuts to Lovefraud information

Shortcuts to the Lovefraud information you're looking for:

Explaining everyday sociopaths

Is your partner a sociopath?

How to leave or divorce a sociopath

Recovery from a sociopath

Senior Sociopaths

Love Fraud - Donna Andersen's story

Share your story and help change the world

Lovefraud Blog categories

  • Explaining sociopaths
    • Female sociopaths
    • Scientific research
    • Workplace sociopaths
    • Book reviews
  • Seduced by a sociopath
    • Targeted Teens and 20s
  • Sociopaths and family
    • Law and court
  • Recovery from a sociopath
    • Spiritual and energetic recovery
    • For children of sociopaths
    • For parents of sociopaths
  • Letters to Lovefraud and Spath Tales
    • Media sociopaths
  • Lovefraud Continuing Education

Footer

Inside Lovefraud

  • Author profiles
  • Blog categories
  • Post archives by year
  • Media coverage
  • Press releases
  • Visitor agreement

Your Lovefraud

  • Register for Lovefraud.com
  • Sign up for the Lovefraud Newsletter
  • How to comment
  • Guidelines for comments
  • Become a Lovefraud CE Affiliate
  • Lovefraud Affiliate Dashboard
  • Contact Lovefraud
  • Facebook
  • Instagram
  • LinkedIn
  • Pinterest
  • Twitter
  • YouTube

Meta

  • Register
  • Log in
  • Entries feed
  • Comments feed
  • WordPress.org

Copyright © 2025 Lovefraud | Escape sociopaths - narcissists in relationships · All Rights Reserved · Powered by Mai Theme