By Ox Drover
One of the themes that seems to run throughout the stories of many of, if not most of, the people who have had experiences with psychopaths is that we have either had repeated episodes of being abused by the same psychopath, even after we saw their dishonesty, or had episodes of being sucked into the webs of multiple psychopaths. Or, we have both of these—multiple episodes with multiple psychopaths.
Most of the people I have known who were formerly victims of psychopaths are not stupid. In fact, some of the smartest, most accomplished people I know are former victims, and have been repeatedly victimized by one psychopath after finding out that this person was dishonest and abusive. Somehow, they kept on going back to the relationship, even after multiple attempts to disengage from the abuser. Why? Why does a person who is smart, accomplished, and otherwise successful in life and business keep repeating the same behavior that allows them to be hurt?
There is an often-used quote, “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” It seems by this definition that the victims of psychopaths are “insane,” because we keep on trying to have a relationship with someone who is repeatedly abusive. There must be some reason that otherwise smart and successful people keep repeating the behavior that is unsuccessful in its outcome. There must be some common thread among victims and former victims that makes us susceptible to frequently returning to an unsuccessful and painful relationship.
Here’s a little story that may contain what may be a grain of truth that might point us toward the answer to the question of. “Why?”
The Chief and the Snake
Once upon a time there was a very wise and kind Indian chief. One day as the chief was walking through the forest, he came upon a rattlesnake in the path. He stopped and started to go around the snake, not wanting to hurt it, but not wanting to be bitten either.
As the chief started to pass around the snake, the snake spoke to him (not an unusual thing in those days) and said, “Chief, please have mercy on me, my wife and family are on the other side of yonder river, and I can’t swim, and I can’t get to them. Won’t you please pick me up and carry me across the river?”
The chief looked at the snake and laughed a bit and said, “Why, if I tried to pick you up you would bite me and I would die. I am sad that you have a problem but I must not be bitten, or I would die and my own children would starve because there would be no strong man with a bow to hunt brother deer to provide meat to my little ones. Though my heart feels sad for you, no, I must refuse to pick you up.”
The snake then spoke to the chief saying, “But such a brave man as you should not be afraid of such a small snake as I, and I promise from the bottom of my heart that I would never harm you if you were to help me across yon river. I am so afraid that if I am not able to get across, my wife and children will perish. Please help me in my hour of need.”
The chief looked at the snake and his heart was sad because he knew what it was like to have one’s children without food. His heart took pity on the snake, and he agreed to take the snake across the river, if the snake would agree not to bite him.
The chief reached out to pick up the snake and held him high over his head as he waded the swift and cold waters of the river. About half way across the river when the chief was doing his best to protect the snake from the cold waters, the snake reached down and bit him on the neck, sinking his poison fangs deep into the chief’s blood stream.
The chief was surprised and said to the snake, “Brother Snake, why did you bite me, now I will die and you will drown as well. You promised on your honor not to bite me if I would have mercy on you and help you, now we shall both die and our children starve. You promised me.”
The snake replied, “Ah yes, I promised, but you knew what I was when you picked me up,” as they both sank under the swirling cold water of the river.
What we have in common with the chief
What caused the chief to reach out and pick up a snake that he knew was poisonous, that he knew had the power to harm him, and that if he was wrong in making this decision to pick up the snake, and the snake did bite him, that his own children would suffer because of his decision?
Empathy is what the chief had, empathy for the children of the snake. Because the chief loved his own children, he assumed that the snake must also love its children. Just as the chief would do what was best for his children, he empathized that the snake would also do what was best. Since the chief knew that he would never do anything deliberately to cause consequences for his children, he did not see that the snake would deliberately do something that would cause problems for his own offspring.
Thinking that others have the same motivations that we have can get us into the same problems that the chief got into. The chief wanted to help the snake. He felt pity for the snake. He knew that he would not want someone to refuse to help him if it meant that he would die and his children would go hungry, so it never dawned on him that the snake would be willing to make a decision to do a deed that would insure that the snake-children would go hungry.
The chief’s empathy and his thinking that others had the same empathy, the same motivation for their behavior, and no reason to hurt another, even at the cost of hurting themselves or their near and dear, caused him to want to believe the snake’s promise not to bite.
The snake, however, was right. The chief knew what he was when he picked him up. When we allow ourselves to believe the promises of people who have proven that they are dishonest, we open ourselves to be repeatedly injured or even killed. When someone shows you what they are, believe your eyes. Believe what you see, not what you hear.
No Contact
“No contact” is the commonly accepted “treatment” for any abusive relationship. This means that only contact that is required by law (such as meeting that person in a courtroom due to a law uit) or the minimum amount of contact required by law to co-parent with such a person, is the only interaction between you and your former abuser. No contact allows the injuries to cease, and keeps you safe from new and repeated injuries from the abuser.
“No contact” also includes not stalking the person’s Facebook page or other social media. It means blocking or deleting any text messages, phone calls, e-mails or any other form of communication, including having others tell you what the former abuser is “up to.” Refusing to engage in tale carrying, gossip, or drama involved with the former abuser is also essential. If you must speak about the relationship, do it ONLY with a trusted friend or family member who sees that the relationship was/is abusive, and with assurances that the person will keep your information in absolute confidence. This process can be likened to “not renting them space in your head,” which includes wondering if they have a new relationship, and if they are making this new person happy o,r if they will change for this new person, or wondering if you were wrong about what they are.
You know what they are now, so don’t pick them up. NO CONTACT WORKS.
Thank You! The hardest job in the world…..being a Mom….
The agony and the ecstacy!! I so miss the days when they were babies and toddlers and children…Teenagers are another challenge!! lol
Thanks Hen…..
one-I used to journal some but I haven’t in a long time. Right now I am just crying but it’s just not coming out.
(((((( 2 cop ))))))
Just a feelin I get readin your posts so much lately.
It seems to me that you’re fighting something that IS coming up for you.
The neighbor lady is the key to all of that, but not sure I”m quite in focus as to how. You have a lot tied into her emotionally for some reason that’s wrenching you away from what you really need to be working on right now which is you.
I see more, I just can’t quite put it into words
This is potentially for you, a major break through in your life. The zit is about to pop chica. I just feel it. But ya gotta let the poison out.
|LL
LL-thanks. I don’t know what the problem is but she makes me feel somekinda way. I wish I could stop it but I don’t know how. When I see her I feel like I’m gonna burst into a million pieces and go flyin out into space. I was crying earlier cuz I almost started when I saw her. I just want to stop feeling this way and feel better.
2 cop
There’s more to this, I think. I think there’s already a “hook” there, but not necessarily one she put into you, but one you put into yourself as a distraction. KNow what I mean? Sometimes distractions feel good during crisis. Especially if we feel alone and vulnerable. This is a really good time to try to observe the feeling (thanks sky) as it happens, rather than go into freak out mode. Those intense feelings are coming from a deeper place, it’s just that Neighbor lady brings it OUT for you.
I wonder what this is really all about on a deeper level for you.
LL
LL-I am just crying over this and it’s really bothering me. Everything feels so intense right now. All she has to do is look at me and I feel like I’m going to turn into a puddle on the floor. I never felt like this before and I don’t know where it’s coming from. It’s so intense that I am completely avoiding contact with her cuz I can’t stand her looking at me.
hi LL.
how are you. I created a new email account last night that I put on another thread and have been talking a bit with Candy.
Skylar and you can write to me there if you would like to.
summersapril9@gmail.com
thanks for all your advice.
petite
I agree with LL about your neighbor Noalarn2bcop, could part of the pain of seeing her be that she has seen a side of you your not so proud of? Maybe some embarassment? Maybe you feel rejected by her and your hurt. Dont want to offend you. I kinda sorta had a crush on a guy one time, he was so nice, I thought maybe he was ‘interested’ but when i kinda sorta came on to him he freaked and stopped being nice, I felt so rejected but mostly mad at myself for confusing kindness as something it wasnt. And I lost a friend. That was years ago and if i saw him now I would feel like a pervert and want to avoid him..my bad kind of thing, ya know?
Hens-You’re not offending me but I never came on to her-not even close. She doesn’t even know that I like women-unless she has some kind of gaydar herself. She knows my last relationship was with a guy. Maybe it has more to do with her seeing me in a different way than she did before. Prior to me losing my job and going through all this crap related to unemployment she did appear interested and appeared to be someone who may go there. I think she sees me as weak now and maybe I’m humiliated. I just can’t stand her looking at me-it hurts and it never used to before. We have so much in common except she “doesn’t let her self feel anything-emotions”, except anger and I am the opposite. I used to be like her before my ex spath-hard as nails. After that relationship tore me into, I’m different and I cry-way more than I ever did before. It isn’t her business though if I cry and she shouldn’t be telling me that I need to handle things like she does. I spent my ENTIRE life bottling up my feelings and it was bad for me. I only started to get a little bit of peace in life and get less stress when I let them all go. She thinks I should be like her and I can’t. I think she’s looking down on me for it. Things always feel worse at night. During the day I can be mad and think how dare her act like that. It’s not her damn business and then night falls and my confidence goes down the shitter the moment I look into her eyes. I want to stop feeling this way.
Petitie,
Long time no post! I’ve not posted to you in awhile. I hope you’re doing well. Thanks for the mail link up. I’ll write it and send you mine.
2 cop, I think Hens made another really good point here. It’s very easy to confuse kindness with more when you’re needy and vulnerable. I wonder if you were visualize yourself doing well and feeling confident in yourself. Would neighbor lady have this affect on you. Again, there is more to this than just an overwhelming attraction. I think it’s an overwhelming NEED that is confused given the situation you’re in right now. It’s like a distraction screaming from next door right into your EAR! BUt really it’s inside of you screaming at YOU. Perhaps you don’t have the support you really need to get through all of this, which creates more drama. I DO understand that. It’s very difficult to create your own support system, particularly when you come from a very dysfunctional background and THEY are not supportive, but cultivating it for yourself is what you need to do to survive this without getting side tracked.
I understand that it’s hard. Boy do I ever. JUst do the best you can to understand where all of this is coming from when you see the neighbor lady. ASK yourself, “Ok, where is this coming from? What am I feeling right now? Lonely, desperate? Afraid?”
There’s nothing worse than feeling really alone when you’re going through a crisis and you sure have been.
Try as hard as you can to stay focused on you, and IGNORE the distraction your neuropathways are trying to access….and hook up with in the familiar.
LL