By Ox Drover
One of the themes that seems to run throughout the stories of many of, if not most of, the people who have had experiences with psychopaths is that we have either had repeated episodes of being abused by the same psychopath, even after we saw their dishonesty, or had episodes of being sucked into the webs of multiple psychopaths. Or, we have both of these—multiple episodes with multiple psychopaths.
Most of the people I have known who were formerly victims of psychopaths are not stupid. In fact, some of the smartest, most accomplished people I know are former victims, and have been repeatedly victimized by one psychopath after finding out that this person was dishonest and abusive. Somehow, they kept on going back to the relationship, even after multiple attempts to disengage from the abuser. Why? Why does a person who is smart, accomplished, and otherwise successful in life and business keep repeating the same behavior that allows them to be hurt?
There is an often-used quote, “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” It seems by this definition that the victims of psychopaths are “insane,” because we keep on trying to have a relationship with someone who is repeatedly abusive. There must be some reason that otherwise smart and successful people keep repeating the behavior that is unsuccessful in its outcome. There must be some common thread among victims and former victims that makes us susceptible to frequently returning to an unsuccessful and painful relationship.
Here’s a little story that may contain what may be a grain of truth that might point us toward the answer to the question of. “Why?”
The Chief and the Snake
Once upon a time there was a very wise and kind Indian chief. One day as the chief was walking through the forest, he came upon a rattlesnake in the path. He stopped and started to go around the snake, not wanting to hurt it, but not wanting to be bitten either.
As the chief started to pass around the snake, the snake spoke to him (not an unusual thing in those days) and said, “Chief, please have mercy on me, my wife and family are on the other side of yonder river, and I can’t swim, and I can’t get to them. Won’t you please pick me up and carry me across the river?”
The chief looked at the snake and laughed a bit and said, “Why, if I tried to pick you up you would bite me and I would die. I am sad that you have a problem but I must not be bitten, or I would die and my own children would starve because there would be no strong man with a bow to hunt brother deer to provide meat to my little ones. Though my heart feels sad for you, no, I must refuse to pick you up.”
The snake then spoke to the chief saying, “But such a brave man as you should not be afraid of such a small snake as I, and I promise from the bottom of my heart that I would never harm you if you were to help me across yon river. I am so afraid that if I am not able to get across, my wife and children will perish. Please help me in my hour of need.”
The chief looked at the snake and his heart was sad because he knew what it was like to have one’s children without food. His heart took pity on the snake, and he agreed to take the snake across the river, if the snake would agree not to bite him.
The chief reached out to pick up the snake and held him high over his head as he waded the swift and cold waters of the river. About half way across the river when the chief was doing his best to protect the snake from the cold waters, the snake reached down and bit him on the neck, sinking his poison fangs deep into the chief’s blood stream.
The chief was surprised and said to the snake, “Brother Snake, why did you bite me, now I will die and you will drown as well. You promised on your honor not to bite me if I would have mercy on you and help you, now we shall both die and our children starve. You promised me.”
The snake replied, “Ah yes, I promised, but you knew what I was when you picked me up,” as they both sank under the swirling cold water of the river.
What we have in common with the chief
What caused the chief to reach out and pick up a snake that he knew was poisonous, that he knew had the power to harm him, and that if he was wrong in making this decision to pick up the snake, and the snake did bite him, that his own children would suffer because of his decision?
Empathy is what the chief had, empathy for the children of the snake. Because the chief loved his own children, he assumed that the snake must also love its children. Just as the chief would do what was best for his children, he empathized that the snake would also do what was best. Since the chief knew that he would never do anything deliberately to cause consequences for his children, he did not see that the snake would deliberately do something that would cause problems for his own offspring.
Thinking that others have the same motivations that we have can get us into the same problems that the chief got into. The chief wanted to help the snake. He felt pity for the snake. He knew that he would not want someone to refuse to help him if it meant that he would die and his children would go hungry, so it never dawned on him that the snake would be willing to make a decision to do a deed that would insure that the snake-children would go hungry.
The chief’s empathy and his thinking that others had the same empathy, the same motivation for their behavior, and no reason to hurt another, even at the cost of hurting themselves or their near and dear, caused him to want to believe the snake’s promise not to bite.
The snake, however, was right. The chief knew what he was when he picked him up. When we allow ourselves to believe the promises of people who have proven that they are dishonest, we open ourselves to be repeatedly injured or even killed. When someone shows you what they are, believe your eyes. Believe what you see, not what you hear.
No Contact
“No contact” is the commonly accepted “treatment” for any abusive relationship. This means that only contact that is required by law (such as meeting that person in a courtroom due to a law uit) or the minimum amount of contact required by law to co-parent with such a person, is the only interaction between you and your former abuser. No contact allows the injuries to cease, and keeps you safe from new and repeated injuries from the abuser.
“No contact” also includes not stalking the person’s Facebook page or other social media. It means blocking or deleting any text messages, phone calls, e-mails or any other form of communication, including having others tell you what the former abuser is “up to.” Refusing to engage in tale carrying, gossip, or drama involved with the former abuser is also essential. If you must speak about the relationship, do it ONLY with a trusted friend or family member who sees that the relationship was/is abusive, and with assurances that the person will keep your information in absolute confidence. This process can be likened to “not renting them space in your head,” which includes wondering if they have a new relationship, and if they are making this new person happy o,r if they will change for this new person, or wondering if you were wrong about what they are.
You know what they are now, so don’t pick them up. NO CONTACT WORKS.
Skylar,
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Great advice ……..Oxy was spot on in her advice to Always hope….sometimes it takes a long time to get to “done” but once you do, you accept that they will never change…sometimes I feel like the spaths I have to deal with find the rest of us “entertainment”. I have a 7 year old grandaughter that I absolutely know in my gut is an spath in training…she manipulates like a seasoned pro. While she is doing it you can watch her face and it’s like she is watching a movie and you are the star. She studies your expressions, your reactions, and will do things to evoke an emotional response and seems to get some kind of wicked little pleasure out of it. She is as slithering a little snake as any adult I’ve ever encountered. I detest even being around her. It feels like she can see through you or read your mind or something. I raised her mother (after her own spath bio Mom split) and it’s like doing it all over again. Anyone who ever says it can’t be genetic has no clue what they are talking about ! This child was not deprived of anything and yet there is something so cold and empty about her. She reminds me of a little “terminator”………..I know I sound so mean, but I know my friends on this blog will understand…it’s the only place I’ve found where people “get us”……it still suprises me how many people don’t even know what the word sociopath means….sometimes I wish I didn’t …!
creampuff,
I wish with all my heart that I didn’t know what a spath was. It’s an unending nightmare. No-one should have to live with what all of us have endured. Thankfully, my children don’t seem to be spaths. My hope is that when my two youngest ones reach puberty (ages 7 and 10), they will coast on by, never developing the disorder. The spath we know is their dad – he doesn’t come across as creepy, just sneaky, deceptive, having most of the traits. Do other relatives pick up on or comment about the little girl, thinking that something is out of the ordinary with her? Just curious.
Ox, I have made good in maintaining no contact with the ex for 2 years, 5 months and 5 days. However, he continues to live “rent free” in my mind.
I am sure he is in a new relationship now and I am certain he is making this new person happy (for now) because that’s how he plays it – act all nice, kind, thoughtful and just a great guy that you feel and believe you are darn lucky to be with him and have him. And yes I do wonder if THIS time around he will change for this new person…maybe he learned his lesson from our break up and I do find myself wondering maybe this new woman has benefitted from the new “wisdom” gained by this man by what happened between us. I can control the no contact but I cannot and am unable to control and stop CONSTANTLY thinking about him. He is the FIRST and LAST thing on my mind for the past 4 years since I met him. It is exhausting but I am unable to stop thinking and wondering about him. I don’t know how to stop!
Dear Deceived,
It is difficult to “control your thoughts” but you CAN DO IT…takes work and practice.
1. In practice the brain is like a file cabinet/computer and it has files (memories and thoughts) but can ONLY OPEN ONE AT A TIME. No “extra windows” sooooo, if you just do nothing the files will more or less open at random or as something triggers a memory/file to open, but if you DELIBERATELY open file A then the brain is unable to open another file as long as file A is open.
Our “emotions” and feelings go along with and follow after th eopening of a file about 60-90 seconds later. So if you open the “My dog fluffy’s death file” then in a few seconds you will start to feel sad as you recall the death of your beloved pet, Fluffy.
BUT if say you open the File about “fluffy” but you want to keep from being sad about it, you instead, DELIBERATELY CLOSE the FLUFFY file and open the NEUTRAL FILE “mary had a little lamb song file” and you start “singing your song” inside your head or out loud if you are in a place where you can do this. You will start to feel neutral.
Another way to do this is to “talk to yourself” and control the INTERNAL DIALOG. When you start to FEEL sad/bad or to think about HIM, stop and ask yourself “WHAT am I getting out of this thought pattern?” then DELIBERATELY think about something pleasant and nice and uplifting or just sing a song, turn on the radio and sing along, count sheep, say your multiplication tables, do ANYTHING TO KEEP YOUR BRAIN OCCUPIED WITH SOMETHING BESIDES THE “THINKING ABOUT HIM AND FEELING BAD” FILE.
It will work, I promise you….but you must work at it. You can also put a rubber band around your wrist and when you think about him, pull it out and SNAP it painfully on to your wrist so that every time you think of him, you get a painful “shock” which will help to desensitize you from thinking about him.
Good luck and keep on NC!!! Work on changing the files you open! (((hugs))
Hello everyone, I am brand new to LF but have been reading everyone’s stories which has helped me tremendously. I have been in a relationship with a sociopath for 5 years. I’ve had “issues” with him from day 1 but kept thinking it was my narrow way of looking at things. I saw a therapist about 2 yrs. ago who informed me that I might be dealing with a SPATH. I subsequently broke it off, stopped the counseling because I thought I was “cured”, and tried to get on with my life. Then he contacted me one day and wanted to talk, came back into my life & I thought the therapist had been wrong about him. Needless to say, after 2 more yrs. of unbelievable grief and heartache, I’ve cut it off and I doubt if he’ll contact me. My obsession now is making him pay…letting everyone know that he’s a SPATH. I’ve written an anonymous letter to his church and to the health club where he works out indicating what he is and mailing posters to his neighbors; but all of a sudden I’m wondering if I can get into trouble for doing this. I honestly don’t care if he finds out it’s me because I can’t imagine him doing much about it…he doesn’t care about ANYTHING. I’m intrigued about these possible websites where you can identify a person. I just don’t have it in me to walk away and let him continue to destroy other peoples’ lives!
Dear Baltimore,
Welcome to Love Fraud…sorry you have had the experience that makes you need to come here, but before you go off trying to get “revenge” on him….sit down, take a deep breath and read and learn about psychopaths/sociopaths…there are many great articles here in the archives. Look by category on the left side at the top of this page, and start under “learning about…” and work your way down.
Knowledge is power, and it will give you what you need to heal. Revenge while “sweet” is a dish best eaten cold. Right now, you are still boiling! Again, welcome to Love Fraud. God bless.
Thanks Ox. I will definitely try that rubberband around my wrist suggestion…anything to help me from thinking about him is worth a try and the initial pain/discomfort. Thanks so much, Ox. I am truly excited to give this a try.
Dear Deceived, it takes work to make yourself focus on ANYTHING but him….singing “happy birthday” or “mary had a little lamb” or anything…just jto keep your mind’s “conversation” talking about something besides him! Good luck! (((hugs)))
Hi All,
I joined recently and have learned so much here on LF.
Ox,
Great article. But the Worm I THought I was picking up turned out to be a Snake before I knew what I had in my hand. OMG, never in my life been through anything like it.
The worm I met 3.5 years ago was average looking, nice, charming, helpful, caring, and didn’t look like he could hurt a fly. I’m still in shock that he so suddenly turned into a lieing, cheating, raging Snake. Didn’t see it coming! It took 3 months of Mr. Nice guy to change his slithery suit and pounce.