By Ox Drover
One of the themes that seems to run throughout the stories of many of, if not most of, the people who have had experiences with psychopaths is that we have either had repeated episodes of being abused by the same psychopath, even after we saw their dishonesty, or had episodes of being sucked into the webs of multiple psychopaths. Or, we have both of these—multiple episodes with multiple psychopaths.
Most of the people I have known who were formerly victims of psychopaths are not stupid. In fact, some of the smartest, most accomplished people I know are former victims, and have been repeatedly victimized by one psychopath after finding out that this person was dishonest and abusive. Somehow, they kept on going back to the relationship, even after multiple attempts to disengage from the abuser. Why? Why does a person who is smart, accomplished, and otherwise successful in life and business keep repeating the same behavior that allows them to be hurt?
There is an often-used quote, “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” It seems by this definition that the victims of psychopaths are “insane,” because we keep on trying to have a relationship with someone who is repeatedly abusive. There must be some reason that otherwise smart and successful people keep repeating the behavior that is unsuccessful in its outcome. There must be some common thread among victims and former victims that makes us susceptible to frequently returning to an unsuccessful and painful relationship.
Here’s a little story that may contain what may be a grain of truth that might point us toward the answer to the question of. “Why?”
The Chief and the Snake
Once upon a time there was a very wise and kind Indian chief. One day as the chief was walking through the forest, he came upon a rattlesnake in the path. He stopped and started to go around the snake, not wanting to hurt it, but not wanting to be bitten either.
As the chief started to pass around the snake, the snake spoke to him (not an unusual thing in those days) and said, “Chief, please have mercy on me, my wife and family are on the other side of yonder river, and I can’t swim, and I can’t get to them. Won’t you please pick me up and carry me across the river?”
The chief looked at the snake and laughed a bit and said, “Why, if I tried to pick you up you would bite me and I would die. I am sad that you have a problem but I must not be bitten, or I would die and my own children would starve because there would be no strong man with a bow to hunt brother deer to provide meat to my little ones. Though my heart feels sad for you, no, I must refuse to pick you up.”
The snake then spoke to the chief saying, “But such a brave man as you should not be afraid of such a small snake as I, and I promise from the bottom of my heart that I would never harm you if you were to help me across yon river. I am so afraid that if I am not able to get across, my wife and children will perish. Please help me in my hour of need.”
The chief looked at the snake and his heart was sad because he knew what it was like to have one’s children without food. His heart took pity on the snake, and he agreed to take the snake across the river, if the snake would agree not to bite him.
The chief reached out to pick up the snake and held him high over his head as he waded the swift and cold waters of the river. About half way across the river when the chief was doing his best to protect the snake from the cold waters, the snake reached down and bit him on the neck, sinking his poison fangs deep into the chief’s blood stream.
The chief was surprised and said to the snake, “Brother Snake, why did you bite me, now I will die and you will drown as well. You promised on your honor not to bite me if I would have mercy on you and help you, now we shall both die and our children starve. You promised me.”
The snake replied, “Ah yes, I promised, but you knew what I was when you picked me up,” as they both sank under the swirling cold water of the river.
What we have in common with the chief
What caused the chief to reach out and pick up a snake that he knew was poisonous, that he knew had the power to harm him, and that if he was wrong in making this decision to pick up the snake, and the snake did bite him, that his own children would suffer because of his decision?
Empathy is what the chief had, empathy for the children of the snake. Because the chief loved his own children, he assumed that the snake must also love its children. Just as the chief would do what was best for his children, he empathized that the snake would also do what was best. Since the chief knew that he would never do anything deliberately to cause consequences for his children, he did not see that the snake would deliberately do something that would cause problems for his own offspring.
Thinking that others have the same motivations that we have can get us into the same problems that the chief got into. The chief wanted to help the snake. He felt pity for the snake. He knew that he would not want someone to refuse to help him if it meant that he would die and his children would go hungry, so it never dawned on him that the snake would be willing to make a decision to do a deed that would insure that the snake-children would go hungry.
The chief’s empathy and his thinking that others had the same empathy, the same motivation for their behavior, and no reason to hurt another, even at the cost of hurting themselves or their near and dear, caused him to want to believe the snake’s promise not to bite.
The snake, however, was right. The chief knew what he was when he picked him up. When we allow ourselves to believe the promises of people who have proven that they are dishonest, we open ourselves to be repeatedly injured or even killed. When someone shows you what they are, believe your eyes. Believe what you see, not what you hear.
No Contact
“No contact” is the commonly accepted “treatment” for any abusive relationship. This means that only contact that is required by law (such as meeting that person in a courtroom due to a law uit) or the minimum amount of contact required by law to co-parent with such a person, is the only interaction between you and your former abuser. No contact allows the injuries to cease, and keeps you safe from new and repeated injuries from the abuser.
“No contact” also includes not stalking the person’s Facebook page or other social media. It means blocking or deleting any text messages, phone calls, e-mails or any other form of communication, including having others tell you what the former abuser is “up to.” Refusing to engage in tale carrying, gossip, or drama involved with the former abuser is also essential. If you must speak about the relationship, do it ONLY with a trusted friend or family member who sees that the relationship was/is abusive, and with assurances that the person will keep your information in absolute confidence. This process can be likened to “not renting them space in your head,” which includes wondering if they have a new relationship, and if they are making this new person happy o,r if they will change for this new person, or wondering if you were wrong about what they are.
You know what they are now, so don’t pick them up. NO CONTACT WORKS.
Superkid,
Your still stuck wanting drama, it’s withdrawal.
Accupuncture helped me during that time. But time with NC is the only answer right now, just like any other addiction.
Realize that most humans are attracted to drama but some have that hair trigger adrenalin reaction more pronounced than others do (I really do). That’s what attracts the spaths and keeps them after us. (we taste great!). Once you realize that you have this, you can work on it either by practicing being calm or by finding an outlet for your need for drama/adventure. OR do both: eg. sports plus meditation.
superkid10 – I think we probably all kept checking on them when we/they ended it. It’s natural. The sooner you STOP checking the easier it will be. BLOCK/DELETE everything to do with him.
I found myself looking at old photos, then one day I ripped them up and threw them on the fire. Same with HIS stuff – I actually threw it in the bin and watched the refuse lorry take it away.
Detach yourself from ‘him’ (not easy) but whilst you keep checking up on him he will infiltrate your head.
Good luck:)
Hello friends…
Let me reiterate this information…I HAVE NOT HAD CONTACT WITH HIM IN ALMOST 2 MONTHS!!
These were texts that popped up into my mind today as I was driving…I couldnt figure them out a year and a half ago, however, they are crystal clear…
THANK YOU EVERYONE
robx – yahooooo well done for staying NC.
I am nearly 6 months NC and I still get similar thoughts coming up in my head.
All I can say is question what he told you, turn it around, and somewhere in amongst it all you will find the answer. We call them ‘AHA’ moments. This is when we ‘get it’.
Hey Babe!
WOOT! You’re doing hella better than I was at two months, sheesh!
I’m noticing that as time goes on, I’m feeling just slightly more calm. I’m still grieving, but much more calm about it. The FOG is lifting, but I think those thoughts are very common babe. Just trying to make sense out of nonsense, ya know? I’ve been studying A LOT about pathological behavior, trauma bonds, etc lately. I told my DV group that i felt I was unraveling years of a huge ball of yarn and not knowing where to start with all the string hangin out.
Part of that is the “aha” moments that Candy talks about. Whatever they said to you, take it, flip it. That’s where you find the truth.
LL
Skylar
Wow – your insightful comment “Realize that most humans are attracted to drama but some have that hair trigger adrenalin reaction more pronounced than others do (I really do). ….work on it either by practicing being calm or by finding an outlet for your need for drama/adventure. OR do both: eg. sports plus meditation”
Wow, that’s insightful. My whole childhood with my mom was FILLED with drama: Is she mad at me? Did I do something wrong? Is she going to hit me? Is my dad going to get home in time to save me? Yes yes yes. You are right. I need to think about this and how to calm myself. It has been a daily drama.
LL,
This thing you said about your spath saying he wanted to be loved. I think that’s true in a way. My Spath said to me last week, “yes, I’m screwed up”. I wonder to myself, why can’t I love unconditionally? Why does it have to be conditional? I realize, I’m sure my thinking is warped about this but I don’t know how I should think about this. ?? My spath’s ex-wife apparently DOES “love him unconditionally”. She knows the game he plays, yet I know she’s still there for the spath, day in and day out. Somehow she keeps a barrier up, is able to tolerate all of this stuff he does? Does she have no needs of her own? I really don’t understand this. How can any person love a sociopath unconditionally? In a way, I would like to be so selfless.
SK
SK,
I totally understand what you’re saying here. I think the wishing we could be as unconditionally loving as these wives/gf’s whatever, appear to be is a call from our childhoods. If only I were just a little more tolerant, so and so would love me more, not beat me up not hurt not…..you get the picture.
We all stayed too long for a variety of reasons. perhaps his wife is okay with some things that other wives would not be. Maybe she has status/money/children to provide for…maybe she’s so beaten down psychologically, she is unable to move for herself. Some stay forever. And that is very sad. Obviously, he’s a cheater and a liar. My ex’s ex stayed too long too, but it was a religious issue as well. He used it against her, while he himself was involved with me for years. she’s out and happy now though.
I get stuck in thinking about what I could have done that would have made things better. In thinking about that, the only thing that would have made anything better would have been to do whatever he wanted, whenever he wanted, without any responsibilities or obligations to my own friends, family, that itw as all about HIM HIM HIM ALL THE TIME. He was demanding, even when he SAID he encouraged my schooling and freedom, when I was NOT available to him though, THAT changed.
You wouldn’t want to settle for that SK and that’s why you’re here.
Could you imagine living as his wife does? Paranoid about what your spouse is doing constantly and lying to you all the time? Having sex with a variety of women? She’s either really beaten down or pathological herself.
LL
Superkid,
I used to love “unconditionally”. But then I realized, it wasn’t really unconditional, it was on the condition that I ALSO get love. Even love from a man who was selfish and mean still counted as love (in my mind). When I realized, that I had NEVER gotten any love, because he was only acting and that in fact, he HATED me. Then my unconditional love went away.
Unconditional love is reserved for infants and animals. Everyone else just gets “love of humanity”. Spaths aren’t actually human so they just get revulsion.
LL,
Well if the wife is there for status or money, then it isn’t unconditional. Part of the reason spaths like to drive us into poverty is to see how long we will stay. How much we will tolerate. They need proof of our unconditional love over and over again. And each time you move your boundary, they will push on it again until you say no more. The only boundary I ever set with my spath was the dishwasher. Funny thing is, I was only kidding. I mean, fuck, who would base their entire relationship on having a dishwasher? But it didn’t seem strange to the spath. He took it seriously! LOL! That dishwasher never spent more than 1 day broken.
Skylar,
LOL too funny! The dishwasher was never more than one day broken!
Sky
WHAT is behind the reasons for obtaining a victim and building them up, only to turn around, bait and switch and try to destroy that person?
I just don’t get it.
LL