By Ox Drover
One of the themes that seems to run throughout the stories of many of, if not most of, the people who have had experiences with psychopaths is that we have either had repeated episodes of being abused by the same psychopath, even after we saw their dishonesty, or had episodes of being sucked into the webs of multiple psychopaths. Or, we have both of these—multiple episodes with multiple psychopaths.
Most of the people I have known who were formerly victims of psychopaths are not stupid. In fact, some of the smartest, most accomplished people I know are former victims, and have been repeatedly victimized by one psychopath after finding out that this person was dishonest and abusive. Somehow, they kept on going back to the relationship, even after multiple attempts to disengage from the abuser. Why? Why does a person who is smart, accomplished, and otherwise successful in life and business keep repeating the same behavior that allows them to be hurt?
There is an often-used quote, “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” It seems by this definition that the victims of psychopaths are “insane,” because we keep on trying to have a relationship with someone who is repeatedly abusive. There must be some reason that otherwise smart and successful people keep repeating the behavior that is unsuccessful in its outcome. There must be some common thread among victims and former victims that makes us susceptible to frequently returning to an unsuccessful and painful relationship.
Here’s a little story that may contain what may be a grain of truth that might point us toward the answer to the question of. “Why?”
The Chief and the Snake
Once upon a time there was a very wise and kind Indian chief. One day as the chief was walking through the forest, he came upon a rattlesnake in the path. He stopped and started to go around the snake, not wanting to hurt it, but not wanting to be bitten either.
As the chief started to pass around the snake, the snake spoke to him (not an unusual thing in those days) and said, “Chief, please have mercy on me, my wife and family are on the other side of yonder river, and I can’t swim, and I can’t get to them. Won’t you please pick me up and carry me across the river?”
The chief looked at the snake and laughed a bit and said, “Why, if I tried to pick you up you would bite me and I would die. I am sad that you have a problem but I must not be bitten, or I would die and my own children would starve because there would be no strong man with a bow to hunt brother deer to provide meat to my little ones. Though my heart feels sad for you, no, I must refuse to pick you up.”
The snake then spoke to the chief saying, “But such a brave man as you should not be afraid of such a small snake as I, and I promise from the bottom of my heart that I would never harm you if you were to help me across yon river. I am so afraid that if I am not able to get across, my wife and children will perish. Please help me in my hour of need.”
The chief looked at the snake and his heart was sad because he knew what it was like to have one’s children without food. His heart took pity on the snake, and he agreed to take the snake across the river, if the snake would agree not to bite him.
The chief reached out to pick up the snake and held him high over his head as he waded the swift and cold waters of the river. About half way across the river when the chief was doing his best to protect the snake from the cold waters, the snake reached down and bit him on the neck, sinking his poison fangs deep into the chief’s blood stream.
The chief was surprised and said to the snake, “Brother Snake, why did you bite me, now I will die and you will drown as well. You promised on your honor not to bite me if I would have mercy on you and help you, now we shall both die and our children starve. You promised me.”
The snake replied, “Ah yes, I promised, but you knew what I was when you picked me up,” as they both sank under the swirling cold water of the river.
What we have in common with the chief
What caused the chief to reach out and pick up a snake that he knew was poisonous, that he knew had the power to harm him, and that if he was wrong in making this decision to pick up the snake, and the snake did bite him, that his own children would suffer because of his decision?
Empathy is what the chief had, empathy for the children of the snake. Because the chief loved his own children, he assumed that the snake must also love its children. Just as the chief would do what was best for his children, he empathized that the snake would also do what was best. Since the chief knew that he would never do anything deliberately to cause consequences for his children, he did not see that the snake would deliberately do something that would cause problems for his own offspring.
Thinking that others have the same motivations that we have can get us into the same problems that the chief got into. The chief wanted to help the snake. He felt pity for the snake. He knew that he would not want someone to refuse to help him if it meant that he would die and his children would go hungry, so it never dawned on him that the snake would be willing to make a decision to do a deed that would insure that the snake-children would go hungry.
The chief’s empathy and his thinking that others had the same empathy, the same motivation for their behavior, and no reason to hurt another, even at the cost of hurting themselves or their near and dear, caused him to want to believe the snake’s promise not to bite.
The snake, however, was right. The chief knew what he was when he picked him up. When we allow ourselves to believe the promises of people who have proven that they are dishonest, we open ourselves to be repeatedly injured or even killed. When someone shows you what they are, believe your eyes. Believe what you see, not what you hear.
No Contact
“No contact” is the commonly accepted “treatment” for any abusive relationship. This means that only contact that is required by law (such as meeting that person in a courtroom due to a law uit) or the minimum amount of contact required by law to co-parent with such a person, is the only interaction between you and your former abuser. No contact allows the injuries to cease, and keeps you safe from new and repeated injuries from the abuser.
“No contact” also includes not stalking the person’s Facebook page or other social media. It means blocking or deleting any text messages, phone calls, e-mails or any other form of communication, including having others tell you what the former abuser is “up to.” Refusing to engage in tale carrying, gossip, or drama involved with the former abuser is also essential. If you must speak about the relationship, do it ONLY with a trusted friend or family member who sees that the relationship was/is abusive, and with assurances that the person will keep your information in absolute confidence. This process can be likened to “not renting them space in your head,” which includes wondering if they have a new relationship, and if they are making this new person happy o,r if they will change for this new person, or wondering if you were wrong about what they are.
You know what they are now, so don’t pick them up. NO CONTACT WORKS.
Star and LL, can I join the “sex is appalling, and that’s why I’m celebate club”? I am 52, post menepausal for the last 4 years, haven’t had sex for the last 6 years. In fact, the thought of having sex is part of the reason why I don’t seek out a relationship. I just don’t think I could stomache the “feeeeeeeeelings” that go along with a sexual relationship. Of course, I need to acknoweldge that my experiences with this have been bad. I just don’t trust a man to love me…I expect them to use me, and make me miserable, one way or another, and I’m not having it. Done.
While I don’t “see” myself being sexual again, I won’t completely close the door on the possibility. My feelings about this might change…a really special guy might appear on the sceen (not likely, I know, but it could happen.) The way I feel about myself could change, who knows?
I’m okay without it. Life is not so messy, so full of fear and drama.
I miss the feeling of being in love, and miss beleiving in the possibility of having a life-time companion…Those are the things that have been hard to let go of. That is what brings me sadness…that the belief is gone. What’s left is an aging woman, alone with regrets.
I’ve been praying for acceptance and peace.
LL hugs to u….I’m feeling bad too. Somehow its helpful to know that spaths are unhappy too. Puts things in perspective. I will get better but he won’t.
After being used for sex by the Spath in my life, it is hard to forgive myself and trust that a man in the future will not do this again, I know…I was used for the last 5 years. I’m 52-post menopausal, tiered and disgusted but I’m not going to let the asshole take away my sexuality as the last straw! I still consider myself a desirable woman.
Ladies if you decide to give up sex all together because of ex-spaths in your lives….you are really letting the Spaths win!
Re-claim your femeninity and sexuality. You are never too old, tiered or worn down. Don’t let them take this away from you.
Oxy,
That is what he *says* but I know men. If a man is attracted to a woman and sleeping next to her, he cannot keep his hands off her. I suspect he just is not attracted to her and they have a pleasant “arrangement” where they live together and share expenses. He is also seriously obese, so maybe there are some other health or psychological issues going on. They are not a great match but my mother cannot stand to be alone.
Aeylah, the thought of giving up sex is sad to me, too. I don’t regret the affair in Costa Rica. But I do regret the neighbor! I am a very sexual and sensual person, so a sexless life like my mother’s sounds sad. But there seems to be no way to avoid the pain that goes along with it.
OxDrover;
“Hope you are doing well, haven’t seen you for a while. Welcome back”
I have been busy with the other sociopaths – my former employer and my lawyers.
My arbitration hearing is approaching and the last couple weeks have been an eye-opener. The legal “profession” is just as bad a Wall Street. Lawyers are Narcissistic and in their mind never make mistakes. Even when they do, what is the recourse?
Of course I am partially to blame. I am too trusting and too prone to first impressions. In addition, I tend to “cling” even when I have my doubts. I should have gotten new lawyers 18 months ago when I felt mine were not been agressive and were not seeing things I as did.
Too late now and I can’t wait to be free of all these snakes.
BBE, I remember you talking about this stuff quite a long time ago. I am sending you white light and wishing fr the best pssible out-come for you. TOWANDA to you!!!
BBE….sending good thoughts your way for freedom soon!!!
LL
SK,
That was a great way to put things in one sentence.
((((((( Mama )))))) I know…I know….
Sky, you just amaze me with your clarity and wisdom about spaths. You really are a healing force here for all you’ve been through and the knowledge you have gained.
LL
kim frederick;
Thanks. Really I was dealing with two sociopaths at once, the one I dated and the one I worked for. I cannot be fully healed until this is over and to be honest, since much of the activity regarding my former employer overlaps the time I dated the x-spath, it brings back those issues as well.
Here is who real crazy life can be. A driving reason for my illegal termination was that my former employer viewed me as a liability due to my health issues. I was terminated immediately after returning from short-term disability.
The first day of my short-term disability was the x-spath’s birthday, although I had not met him yet. I met him on the last day of my short-term disability.
I just broke it off with a sociopath of 8 months about a week ago after I found out he had been cheating on me. Well, actually I knew he had been cheating but I had no real confirmation. I actually contacted his ex that I knew he was cheating with but never heard back from her because he probably told her some bogus lie about me being crazy. The no contact rule is so hard. Even in times I had broken it off with him before but mostly he would break up with me, I guess another one of his mind games, he would always call back or send an I love you text. During the few days we were broken up I would miss him so much and feel the need to send him a text explaining how hurt I was or demanding a reason for him leaving me. He would always break up with me after I would question his where abouts or catch him in lies. He would always call me insecure and say he couldnt be in a relationship with someone who was alwasys accusing him of things when he was innocent. I know NC works but its so hard when you want revenge and want them to know how f’d up they were for treating you this way.