By Ox Drover
One of the themes that seems to run throughout the stories of many of, if not most of, the people who have had experiences with psychopaths is that we have either had repeated episodes of being abused by the same psychopath, even after we saw their dishonesty, or had episodes of being sucked into the webs of multiple psychopaths. Or, we have both of these—multiple episodes with multiple psychopaths.
Most of the people I have known who were formerly victims of psychopaths are not stupid. In fact, some of the smartest, most accomplished people I know are former victims, and have been repeatedly victimized by one psychopath after finding out that this person was dishonest and abusive. Somehow, they kept on going back to the relationship, even after multiple attempts to disengage from the abuser. Why? Why does a person who is smart, accomplished, and otherwise successful in life and business keep repeating the same behavior that allows them to be hurt?
There is an often-used quote, “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” It seems by this definition that the victims of psychopaths are “insane,” because we keep on trying to have a relationship with someone who is repeatedly abusive. There must be some reason that otherwise smart and successful people keep repeating the behavior that is unsuccessful in its outcome. There must be some common thread among victims and former victims that makes us susceptible to frequently returning to an unsuccessful and painful relationship.
Here’s a little story that may contain what may be a grain of truth that might point us toward the answer to the question of. “Why?”
The Chief and the Snake
Once upon a time there was a very wise and kind Indian chief. One day as the chief was walking through the forest, he came upon a rattlesnake in the path. He stopped and started to go around the snake, not wanting to hurt it, but not wanting to be bitten either.
As the chief started to pass around the snake, the snake spoke to him (not an unusual thing in those days) and said, “Chief, please have mercy on me, my wife and family are on the other side of yonder river, and I can’t swim, and I can’t get to them. Won’t you please pick me up and carry me across the river?”
The chief looked at the snake and laughed a bit and said, “Why, if I tried to pick you up you would bite me and I would die. I am sad that you have a problem but I must not be bitten, or I would die and my own children would starve because there would be no strong man with a bow to hunt brother deer to provide meat to my little ones. Though my heart feels sad for you, no, I must refuse to pick you up.”
The snake then spoke to the chief saying, “But such a brave man as you should not be afraid of such a small snake as I, and I promise from the bottom of my heart that I would never harm you if you were to help me across yon river. I am so afraid that if I am not able to get across, my wife and children will perish. Please help me in my hour of need.”
The chief looked at the snake and his heart was sad because he knew what it was like to have one’s children without food. His heart took pity on the snake, and he agreed to take the snake across the river, if the snake would agree not to bite him.
The chief reached out to pick up the snake and held him high over his head as he waded the swift and cold waters of the river. About half way across the river when the chief was doing his best to protect the snake from the cold waters, the snake reached down and bit him on the neck, sinking his poison fangs deep into the chief’s blood stream.
The chief was surprised and said to the snake, “Brother Snake, why did you bite me, now I will die and you will drown as well. You promised on your honor not to bite me if I would have mercy on you and help you, now we shall both die and our children starve. You promised me.”
The snake replied, “Ah yes, I promised, but you knew what I was when you picked me up,” as they both sank under the swirling cold water of the river.
What we have in common with the chief
What caused the chief to reach out and pick up a snake that he knew was poisonous, that he knew had the power to harm him, and that if he was wrong in making this decision to pick up the snake, and the snake did bite him, that his own children would suffer because of his decision?
Empathy is what the chief had, empathy for the children of the snake. Because the chief loved his own children, he assumed that the snake must also love its children. Just as the chief would do what was best for his children, he empathized that the snake would also do what was best. Since the chief knew that he would never do anything deliberately to cause consequences for his children, he did not see that the snake would deliberately do something that would cause problems for his own offspring.
Thinking that others have the same motivations that we have can get us into the same problems that the chief got into. The chief wanted to help the snake. He felt pity for the snake. He knew that he would not want someone to refuse to help him if it meant that he would die and his children would go hungry, so it never dawned on him that the snake would be willing to make a decision to do a deed that would insure that the snake-children would go hungry.
The chief’s empathy and his thinking that others had the same empathy, the same motivation for their behavior, and no reason to hurt another, even at the cost of hurting themselves or their near and dear, caused him to want to believe the snake’s promise not to bite.
The snake, however, was right. The chief knew what he was when he picked him up. When we allow ourselves to believe the promises of people who have proven that they are dishonest, we open ourselves to be repeatedly injured or even killed. When someone shows you what they are, believe your eyes. Believe what you see, not what you hear.
No Contact
“No contact” is the commonly accepted “treatment” for any abusive relationship. This means that only contact that is required by law (such as meeting that person in a courtroom due to a law uit) or the minimum amount of contact required by law to co-parent with such a person, is the only interaction between you and your former abuser. No contact allows the injuries to cease, and keeps you safe from new and repeated injuries from the abuser.
“No contact” also includes not stalking the person’s Facebook page or other social media. It means blocking or deleting any text messages, phone calls, e-mails or any other form of communication, including having others tell you what the former abuser is “up to.” Refusing to engage in tale carrying, gossip, or drama involved with the former abuser is also essential. If you must speak about the relationship, do it ONLY with a trusted friend or family member who sees that the relationship was/is abusive, and with assurances that the person will keep your information in absolute confidence. This process can be likened to “not renting them space in your head,” which includes wondering if they have a new relationship, and if they are making this new person happy o,r if they will change for this new person, or wondering if you were wrong about what they are.
You know what they are now, so don’t pick them up. NO CONTACT WORKS.
Embarrassing, yes, being the unauthorized-by-me OW was always painful and in many many ways as you know. But I was led to believe he was moving out in ‘2 weeks'< he said, and he 'had met me too early'< he said.
Then I read on here that others have been told the same by other men.
But he pressed for getting to know me so hard, I thought we were just friends. He worked out at the same gym, so he said. But you know what? I never recalled ever seeing him there and from reading LF I find that he may have actually joined the gym after he met me. Crazy, huh? He was so desperate to get to know me and contacted me constantly.
MissLed,
I was with my S only * months thank God! I wasnt one of his most easy targets as per his friend who even admitted that he uses ALL his women and then kicks them to the curb. I am usually preety observant so i knew things did not add up early on however what attracted me most to him was the friendship I though we had. I was most happy watching the travel channel with him not saying a word to each other. it was never the sex, bravado, or false promises. Its funny you said they love drama. Last week when i broke it off it started with a rumor about him having a child that is due in a month. i told him that if it was a lie he shouldnt have dogged the poor girl and she wouldnt be trying to sabotage him. he explained that he welcomed her drama and would love to get taken to court. Who says that? However, by the end of that day I had confirmed the rumor to be true and also talked to a couple other women he had been string right along with me. We would always break up and get back. He was the break up King and for no apparent reason at all. I guess he got a kick out of me begging for an explanation.
8 months
WOW, your stories are so similar but not!!
Miss, I suffer LOTS of shame and guilt about mine. I was an OW for almost ten years. Talk about embarrassing. This is something I have to deal with in therapy. I bought the bullshit for too long, hainging onto that fantasy of “you need to wait”…when the divorce was over “you should have waited, i told you to wait” FOR EFFING WHAT? THIS? Whatever!
You seem to not hold onto all of that shame guilt stuff and that’s good. You see clearly that he targeted you. Mine was a bit more subtle in how it was done. It’s still a major mind fuck for me even now.
Far, Yep. Drama rama!
LL,
hhhhhhhmmmm, so your group doesn’t know you were the OW? I think that there is a greater depth of despair being OW because you are more likely to suffer by yourself, as I did.
And also, I can’t imagine signing up for it on purpose! It’s horrible, so painful.
I finally told my girlfriends this past fall and they ALL said ‘Why didn’t you tell me’?!! They were hurt I didn’t go to them with my problem. These are the same women I had practically ditched because I was so over my head with anxiety while dealing with the S.
Had I known my friends would have been there for me…..I probably would have broken free much sooner. (sighhhh)
One *small* question for me to ask tonight 🙂
I am seeking clarification over his bullshit statement of ‘I love you, Im just not in love with you…and I just realized this on my way home tonight. Im not excite to come home or see you.”
I think this is BULLSHIT, however, I just wonder…
What does that mean? I mean, how do you LOVE someone without being IN LOVE with them after moving in with them?
Miss,
MY friends knew but I didn’t CARE. My head was so far up his butt it wouldn’t have mattered. I had to learn on my own and yes, I kept it quiet and didn’t share it. That does increase the stress.
No, I’ve not shared it with the group yet. this is my second week.
I don’t know that I’ll share it today either, but it’s bothering me enough that i might. I want to be sensitive to others in the group who were cheated on by their pathological partner. It can be triggering.
LL
What? Were we ‘room mates?” And if so, how does that happen…AFTER DATING FOR 4 YEARS?
Rob, DO NOT ever try to rationalize what a spath says. You will only further confuse yourself. It is bullshit just as you called it BULLSHIT! Pure and stank! They love to play with your mind and make you wonder. My spath would wake up in the morning with a bad attitude and ask me to leave for no reason at all. I would wonder damn like we had the best night together, what the hell is he on? I am learning that that life is only a game to them and we are just the objects for them to play with. Some days they love you and then the next they hate you and you are giving them headaches. My spath was also a coke addict. So I assume some of his mood swings were attributed to the drug abuse or the crahses making him so irritable.
Yes…thers IS no rationality to what they say…
Youve said it, my moms said it, my best friends said it, others on LF have said it…ITS A MIND GAME…
He also asked me, innocently immediately afterwards, if I wanted to take the dog out with him…WHAT!???