By Ox Drover
One of the themes that seems to run throughout the stories of many of, if not most of, the people who have had experiences with psychopaths is that we have either had repeated episodes of being abused by the same psychopath, even after we saw their dishonesty, or had episodes of being sucked into the webs of multiple psychopaths. Or, we have both of these—multiple episodes with multiple psychopaths.
Most of the people I have known who were formerly victims of psychopaths are not stupid. In fact, some of the smartest, most accomplished people I know are former victims, and have been repeatedly victimized by one psychopath after finding out that this person was dishonest and abusive. Somehow, they kept on going back to the relationship, even after multiple attempts to disengage from the abuser. Why? Why does a person who is smart, accomplished, and otherwise successful in life and business keep repeating the same behavior that allows them to be hurt?
There is an often-used quote, “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” It seems by this definition that the victims of psychopaths are “insane,” because we keep on trying to have a relationship with someone who is repeatedly abusive. There must be some reason that otherwise smart and successful people keep repeating the behavior that is unsuccessful in its outcome. There must be some common thread among victims and former victims that makes us susceptible to frequently returning to an unsuccessful and painful relationship.
Here’s a little story that may contain what may be a grain of truth that might point us toward the answer to the question of. “Why?”
The Chief and the Snake
Once upon a time there was a very wise and kind Indian chief. One day as the chief was walking through the forest, he came upon a rattlesnake in the path. He stopped and started to go around the snake, not wanting to hurt it, but not wanting to be bitten either.
As the chief started to pass around the snake, the snake spoke to him (not an unusual thing in those days) and said, “Chief, please have mercy on me, my wife and family are on the other side of yonder river, and I can’t swim, and I can’t get to them. Won’t you please pick me up and carry me across the river?”
The chief looked at the snake and laughed a bit and said, “Why, if I tried to pick you up you would bite me and I would die. I am sad that you have a problem but I must not be bitten, or I would die and my own children would starve because there would be no strong man with a bow to hunt brother deer to provide meat to my little ones. Though my heart feels sad for you, no, I must refuse to pick you up.”
The snake then spoke to the chief saying, “But such a brave man as you should not be afraid of such a small snake as I, and I promise from the bottom of my heart that I would never harm you if you were to help me across yon river. I am so afraid that if I am not able to get across, my wife and children will perish. Please help me in my hour of need.”
The chief looked at the snake and his heart was sad because he knew what it was like to have one’s children without food. His heart took pity on the snake, and he agreed to take the snake across the river, if the snake would agree not to bite him.
The chief reached out to pick up the snake and held him high over his head as he waded the swift and cold waters of the river. About half way across the river when the chief was doing his best to protect the snake from the cold waters, the snake reached down and bit him on the neck, sinking his poison fangs deep into the chief’s blood stream.
The chief was surprised and said to the snake, “Brother Snake, why did you bite me, now I will die and you will drown as well. You promised on your honor not to bite me if I would have mercy on you and help you, now we shall both die and our children starve. You promised me.”
The snake replied, “Ah yes, I promised, but you knew what I was when you picked me up,” as they both sank under the swirling cold water of the river.
What we have in common with the chief
What caused the chief to reach out and pick up a snake that he knew was poisonous, that he knew had the power to harm him, and that if he was wrong in making this decision to pick up the snake, and the snake did bite him, that his own children would suffer because of his decision?
Empathy is what the chief had, empathy for the children of the snake. Because the chief loved his own children, he assumed that the snake must also love its children. Just as the chief would do what was best for his children, he empathized that the snake would also do what was best. Since the chief knew that he would never do anything deliberately to cause consequences for his children, he did not see that the snake would deliberately do something that would cause problems for his own offspring.
Thinking that others have the same motivations that we have can get us into the same problems that the chief got into. The chief wanted to help the snake. He felt pity for the snake. He knew that he would not want someone to refuse to help him if it meant that he would die and his children would go hungry, so it never dawned on him that the snake would be willing to make a decision to do a deed that would insure that the snake-children would go hungry.
The chief’s empathy and his thinking that others had the same empathy, the same motivation for their behavior, and no reason to hurt another, even at the cost of hurting themselves or their near and dear, caused him to want to believe the snake’s promise not to bite.
The snake, however, was right. The chief knew what he was when he picked him up. When we allow ourselves to believe the promises of people who have proven that they are dishonest, we open ourselves to be repeatedly injured or even killed. When someone shows you what they are, believe your eyes. Believe what you see, not what you hear.
No Contact
“No contact” is the commonly accepted “treatment” for any abusive relationship. This means that only contact that is required by law (such as meeting that person in a courtroom due to a law uit) or the minimum amount of contact required by law to co-parent with such a person, is the only interaction between you and your former abuser. No contact allows the injuries to cease, and keeps you safe from new and repeated injuries from the abuser.
“No contact” also includes not stalking the person’s Facebook page or other social media. It means blocking or deleting any text messages, phone calls, e-mails or any other form of communication, including having others tell you what the former abuser is “up to.” Refusing to engage in tale carrying, gossip, or drama involved with the former abuser is also essential. If you must speak about the relationship, do it ONLY with a trusted friend or family member who sees that the relationship was/is abusive, and with assurances that the person will keep your information in absolute confidence. This process can be likened to “not renting them space in your head,” which includes wondering if they have a new relationship, and if they are making this new person happy o,r if they will change for this new person, or wondering if you were wrong about what they are.
You know what they are now, so don’t pick them up. NO CONTACT WORKS.
FAD,
Definitely take advantage of that journal.
Do anything you can to reduce communication between you because it obviously triggers you each time. If the journal will reduce your stress by forcing him to be more cordial, then insist that he use it.
Make sure you express your desire to abide by the agreement in the most matter-of-fact way, so he doesn’t try to use this as an emotional trigger.
And if he continues to send any emails, simply respond by saying: please use the journal.
FAD, I totally agree with Sky. Don’t let him see emotion at all from you. If necessary, quote the part of your agreement that you listed above.
Perhaps stating: Please follow our agreement that says, “Any communication between the parties that is necessary shall be contained ina written journal”and the substance of the writings shall be limited to matters relating to Jr,—
You could also state that future e-mails will be ignored. Good luck to you.
FAD
EXCELLENT THINKING AND YES< YOU SHOULD!! WOOT GOOD THINKING! That should stop the emails, either that or you could reiterate when he does send them, to KINDLY put any concerns, etc, into the journal I LOVE IT
Great job FAD! Hang in there!
LL
FAD, I think that communicating via the journal ONLY is going to be the way to go—so the next time he e mails you, quote the part of the agreement about the communication ONLY IN THE JOURNAL and I am assuming by phone in event of EMERGENCY situations…and then BLOCK HIS EMAIL ACCESS and tell him in advance that you are going to do so. Or that you will not be responding to e mails—Ohhhhhhhh yea every time he e mails just send the agreement back to him…..pop! right in the chops! LOL Oh,,,, I am sooooo mean! LOL
Farwronged I would really like to hear your story. I think one of the things we all struggle with is that our SPATHs abandon us, hurt us, we leave….then somehow they suck us back. Why do they do it? Because they can. We’re easy prey. It makes them feel powerful. Why do we let them? That’s the question. I struggle with this question every day. I fear my spath’s next contact, how will I stay strong against it?
SK,
I know you didn’t ask me, but I think I might be able to help….
The reason we get sucked back in is because we don’t THINK like they do. Once you understand how they THINK, it makes it easier to stay away…
Once you understand that the reasons they try to suck you back in is to CONTROL AND DESTROY You, it makes it a lot easier to stay away….
If you think anything positive, like I use to when my spath would call or cyberstalk or anything (use to get excited, OH HE LOVES ME!) NOPE! He wants to FUCK WITH ME! DESTROY ME!!!
That makes it easier. Once you understnad that there are men on this planet (yes women too!) who want to destroy you, hurt you, you’ll WANT to stay away…and the fear of their contact will be appropriate instead of this secret “Gee, I sure wish he would call!”
Right now, I’m so GLAD mine has another victim. YES it hurts…but it’s also a relief, it gives me time to breathe and heal!
LL
SK I would like to post a recent email if I may so that you guys can pick it apart for me since Im so new here. I will block names etc…
ME,
First I want to apologize for everything that has transpiried over the past couple weeks. Im not gonna sit here and tell you about your mistakes and how I feel you couldve make this relationship work, im only gonna talk about me & my issues. As a child Ive watched my mother dog man after man,use and abuse,and cheat, espeacilly to the one man Ive loved the most witch is my stepfather NAME,who is dead now. And the summers ive spent with my father ive seen him run thru women, use and abuse,etc. I left my mothers house at 15yrs old & hve been living with different women, on my own & in & out of my GP house. Ive done alot bad in my life, robbed, sold drugs, shot people, used & abused people, anything to get ahead. Then a couple things happened to me that changed my life, First I had a daughter who is the light of my life, & I cut out the things in my life that will get me killed so I can be here for her as my parents werent for me. I am I good father to her, she wants for nothing & is spoiled rotten & she loves her father very much. The second thing that happend to me is I went to prison for two yrs. & ive learn so much in there & became very grateful for family & the little things in life. Throuhout my Jail and prison life me & my mother reconnected, hve shared, cried, & learned to forgive eachother for our mistakes her not being there for me and me going dwn a distructive path. ME, one of my biggest flaws is destroying evrything in my life thats is starting to become good because I dnt want to be disapointed when it doesnt work. Ive been disapointed time and time again by my parents broken promises. I use to sit at the window cryin everyday cause my father would say hes comin to get me and never cum, this happend for yrs and yrs and still happens to this day. My mother would say she comin to get me & never did she was always workin and to make up for it she would jus buy me shit, the reason my ass is so spoiled today. I destroy all good relationships(ME) because wwhen im with you I feel the way I use to when I was wit my parents(happy &loved) and I rather bring it to an end before I get hurt one more time in my life. If that makes any sence to you. You say im all these bad things but Ive cum such a long way. Yes I have alot more growing to do, who dont. My parents and family are very proud of me. Ive accomplished alot in my life, have made alot of money and hve takin care of my family. Im always here and im always dependable, my word means da world to me & wen i say im gonna do sumthin i do it!
ME, wen we met I had a good job & I was very excited about a life with you, when it started being to good to be true I felt like I had to back up before you hurt me. Remember when I said I felt like you were my angel, thats because I see so much good in you & I love the feeling of being around you. Im a better person when im around you. Im so sorry for injuring you Ive apologized a hundred times & will apologized a hundred more. Im still very much in-love with you I jus didnt want you 2 hurt or dissapoint me because its happened so much in da past, thats why I dnt let people in my life easily hardly ever, Ive only had 3 serious girlfriends in my life for this reason. I have lied to you only bout one thing & that is not caring, I do care very much I love you. I hve big dreams & aspirations & im diligenty working on them and can see us together working to get there. This was a very hard letter to write to you I cant even prof read cause i dont wanna see it again, it brought out childhood memories and feelings I hate. I understand if you wanna go our seperate ways but I do belive if we can get over this that it will bring us that much closer together. Have a nice day as u say. ~ HIM
* Never had a job…not a good father….not dependable.
Thanks so much..again.
So my reply today’s e-mail …
“In regards to Jr.’s hair cut. That is fine you are getting his hair cut the end of the month as his hair is getting way too long and I got his hair cut last time before our vacation in February. I will also be getting his hair cut in the middle of May, as we have plans and he needs to look nice.
As of right now, Jr.’s doctors appointment for May 27th is fine. It is over a month away, so if anything changes I will let you know.
I do not think Jr. peeing his pants is an issue to be brought up at the doctors. He is doing absolutely great at night! This is something I thought you should be aware of as you are his other parent so we can work together and be consistent with Jr.’s potty training. My concerns are not taken seriously at the doctor’s anyway, just like his excessive drinking, night sweats, and swollen lymph node.”
(I had sensed baiting in his last email so I referred him to the Dr.)
should be:
“Jerkface,
According to our agreement; page 7 of 18: (f), “Any communication between [us] that is necessary shall be contained in a written notebook/journal…”
This is with exception to urgent, emergency or health related communications.
FAD”
Yes? or No?
BTW I was so frazzled for hours today about the haircut, knowing there is no way for me to stop him and Jr’s Birthday is coming up and I want to have nice pictures. The last haircut he got Jr. they shaved off his sideburns. Now I have to get a decent cut for pictures and fear an almost bald “do” due to the fact he’ll be cutting it just 3 weeks later.
But I got over it. I am NOT responding AND I AM going to have it cut, get pics taken early and let him play his asinine games.
LONG?! Do you want to know his definition of long? The longest hair is 1.5 inches. Sheeeeeesh!
PS SO sorry for you girls STILL being dragged back into the web. It had a few goes around myself and at this point it just makes me sick. I am so far removed that all I see is this selfish, conniving, EVIL, dirty, unconscionable bastard!
What I am going through is HARD, but it is EASIER than trying to keep your head out of the spin cycle!!!
NC!
Farwronged,
With exception the prison and the daughter part, my spath could have written that, especially with all those misspellings.
The great thing about getting my spath to write in the journal is his secretary (read: adultress) won’t be able to spell check either!!!!! he he he he
TOO FUUNY @....... FAD…I had to post this simply because I know he is trying to play on my sympathy and I need you guys help in order to stay strong.