By Ox Drover
One of the themes that seems to run throughout the stories of many of, if not most of, the people who have had experiences with psychopaths is that we have either had repeated episodes of being abused by the same psychopath, even after we saw their dishonesty, or had episodes of being sucked into the webs of multiple psychopaths. Or, we have both of these—multiple episodes with multiple psychopaths.
Most of the people I have known who were formerly victims of psychopaths are not stupid. In fact, some of the smartest, most accomplished people I know are former victims, and have been repeatedly victimized by one psychopath after finding out that this person was dishonest and abusive. Somehow, they kept on going back to the relationship, even after multiple attempts to disengage from the abuser. Why? Why does a person who is smart, accomplished, and otherwise successful in life and business keep repeating the same behavior that allows them to be hurt?
There is an often-used quote, “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” It seems by this definition that the victims of psychopaths are “insane,” because we keep on trying to have a relationship with someone who is repeatedly abusive. There must be some reason that otherwise smart and successful people keep repeating the behavior that is unsuccessful in its outcome. There must be some common thread among victims and former victims that makes us susceptible to frequently returning to an unsuccessful and painful relationship.
Here’s a little story that may contain what may be a grain of truth that might point us toward the answer to the question of. “Why?”
The Chief and the Snake
Once upon a time there was a very wise and kind Indian chief. One day as the chief was walking through the forest, he came upon a rattlesnake in the path. He stopped and started to go around the snake, not wanting to hurt it, but not wanting to be bitten either.
As the chief started to pass around the snake, the snake spoke to him (not an unusual thing in those days) and said, “Chief, please have mercy on me, my wife and family are on the other side of yonder river, and I can’t swim, and I can’t get to them. Won’t you please pick me up and carry me across the river?”
The chief looked at the snake and laughed a bit and said, “Why, if I tried to pick you up you would bite me and I would die. I am sad that you have a problem but I must not be bitten, or I would die and my own children would starve because there would be no strong man with a bow to hunt brother deer to provide meat to my little ones. Though my heart feels sad for you, no, I must refuse to pick you up.”
The snake then spoke to the chief saying, “But such a brave man as you should not be afraid of such a small snake as I, and I promise from the bottom of my heart that I would never harm you if you were to help me across yon river. I am so afraid that if I am not able to get across, my wife and children will perish. Please help me in my hour of need.”
The chief looked at the snake and his heart was sad because he knew what it was like to have one’s children without food. His heart took pity on the snake, and he agreed to take the snake across the river, if the snake would agree not to bite him.
The chief reached out to pick up the snake and held him high over his head as he waded the swift and cold waters of the river. About half way across the river when the chief was doing his best to protect the snake from the cold waters, the snake reached down and bit him on the neck, sinking his poison fangs deep into the chief’s blood stream.
The chief was surprised and said to the snake, “Brother Snake, why did you bite me, now I will die and you will drown as well. You promised on your honor not to bite me if I would have mercy on you and help you, now we shall both die and our children starve. You promised me.”
The snake replied, “Ah yes, I promised, but you knew what I was when you picked me up,” as they both sank under the swirling cold water of the river.
What we have in common with the chief
What caused the chief to reach out and pick up a snake that he knew was poisonous, that he knew had the power to harm him, and that if he was wrong in making this decision to pick up the snake, and the snake did bite him, that his own children would suffer because of his decision?
Empathy is what the chief had, empathy for the children of the snake. Because the chief loved his own children, he assumed that the snake must also love its children. Just as the chief would do what was best for his children, he empathized that the snake would also do what was best. Since the chief knew that he would never do anything deliberately to cause consequences for his children, he did not see that the snake would deliberately do something that would cause problems for his own offspring.
Thinking that others have the same motivations that we have can get us into the same problems that the chief got into. The chief wanted to help the snake. He felt pity for the snake. He knew that he would not want someone to refuse to help him if it meant that he would die and his children would go hungry, so it never dawned on him that the snake would be willing to make a decision to do a deed that would insure that the snake-children would go hungry.
The chief’s empathy and his thinking that others had the same empathy, the same motivation for their behavior, and no reason to hurt another, even at the cost of hurting themselves or their near and dear, caused him to want to believe the snake’s promise not to bite.
The snake, however, was right. The chief knew what he was when he picked him up. When we allow ourselves to believe the promises of people who have proven that they are dishonest, we open ourselves to be repeatedly injured or even killed. When someone shows you what they are, believe your eyes. Believe what you see, not what you hear.
No Contact
“No contact” is the commonly accepted “treatment” for any abusive relationship. This means that only contact that is required by law (such as meeting that person in a courtroom due to a law uit) or the minimum amount of contact required by law to co-parent with such a person, is the only interaction between you and your former abuser. No contact allows the injuries to cease, and keeps you safe from new and repeated injuries from the abuser.
“No contact” also includes not stalking the person’s Facebook page or other social media. It means blocking or deleting any text messages, phone calls, e-mails or any other form of communication, including having others tell you what the former abuser is “up to.” Refusing to engage in tale carrying, gossip, or drama involved with the former abuser is also essential. If you must speak about the relationship, do it ONLY with a trusted friend or family member who sees that the relationship was/is abusive, and with assurances that the person will keep your information in absolute confidence. This process can be likened to “not renting them space in your head,” which includes wondering if they have a new relationship, and if they are making this new person happy o,r if they will change for this new person, or wondering if you were wrong about what they are.
You know what they are now, so don’t pick them up. NO CONTACT WORKS.
Hi again.
My Xspath is occasionally late with his CS payments. (every couple of months) He began sending me bank checks in February and that was two days late. March was on time and this month it was due today; no check.
I am peeved because although 1-2 days is not a lot they are usually late on a weekend, causing me to wait an additional 2 days to deposit it.
I WAS supposed to get one today and I am leaving on spring break tonight for 5 days. How do I cash it?
DUH!!!!
This is a legal issue.
Do I just inform him that I have been getting them late? Maybe he doesn’t know since they come from the bank and are always dated the 15th.
FAD
USE THE JOURNAL IF THAT DOES NOT STOP THE PROBLEM, USE THE LAWYER.
FAD I think that he DOES know….and he is using this as just another way to inconvenience you—just enough to not get in trouble with the court, but just enough to keep you off balance.
Again, it is damned if you do, damned if you donn’t…(((hugs)))
So I don’t say anything?
I hate how my life has become so calculated.
FAD,
I understand your frustration. But you’re doing and reacting exactly as he wants you too.
You’re going to have to be more “flexible” while journaling all of this. The goal is to piss you off and make life difficult for you.
The end result is that you ARE. FAD, you have to find a way to let this go, even while he’s trying to piss you off because it’s WORKING…he WINS everytime he does something so calculating to put you off balance.
Think AHEAD! What can you do to keep yourself going with your plans, your life, whatever and that he CAN”T interfere? DO you live off the CS? If so, can you get a job so you don’t rely on the DAY it comes? To get some independence financially so that the shit he does this way is a MINOR inconvenience and won’t have you sucked in like this?
He does this because he knows he can. But you’re ALLOWING him to get to you FAD, with each little sneaky calculating thing he DOES to you, it WORKS….because you’re reacting
STOP.
Find something that means that whatever he does to attempt to control you, rolls off your back like water on a ducks back!
LL
LL Thank you for the advice.
However, although you can see he gets to me, he has no way of knowing. I have yet to say anything about the journal or the CS. just wondering of I should.
I would love to never say a word to him, but I also know that others here have recommended that we hold spaths to the letter of the law. Follow the custody agreement to a T.
How do I enforce it without saying anything?
FAD
That’s the way he has your teat in a wringer, FAD…he is staying just on the shady side of the rules….just enough to pith you off, and if you do say something about the 2 days late child support, he will give junior another hair cut…it is just ANYTHING HE CAN FIND TO PITH YOU OFF, TO FARK WITH YOUR MIND….
There are not enough things that you can think of to to tell him NOT TO DO….it is like the calling the GF “mommy”—that is NO ACCIDENT…that is a deliberate violation and HE KNOWS IT…..HE DOESN’T HAVE TO “KNOW” YOU ARE UPSET, HE “KNOWS” because he knows what will push your buttons….they do that–he has pushed your buttons for years and he is just upping the ante now, using Junior, CS and anything he can think of to pith you off….back when you first came on here and got hysterical about every little thing, I told you that it would take a WHILE of ignoring him before he would quit upping the ante and settle down…..and it will.
If you complain about this it will be something else…hair cut, day care, boo boo on junior’s pinkie, motorcycle riding, calling the GF Mommy…he will keep on and on,, so as long as you respond to these things the DRAMA continues.
I KNOW IT IS HARD TO IGNORE, but ignoring it is your best bet to GET OUT OF THE DRAMA-RAMA….so YOU CAN HAVE SOME PEACE. As long as he is not getting Junior a dragon tattoo on his face, LET IT SLIDE. PICK YOUR BATTLES OVER THE SERIOUS ISSUES….I know it sucks, sweetie, but it is ultimately the ONLY option you have. The court isn’t goin to take the 2 days late seriously any way—two years late they don’t take very seriously.
((((hugs))))
FAD
I totally agree with Ox here and she said it better than I could. It doesn’t matter that he knows whether or not you’re pissed, because well, he KNOWS it…and you SHOW it….
It’s up to you how long you let him get to you.
LL
FAD
Okay I’ve figured it out. If you respond to each his behaviors then you are giving him what he wants. On the other hand if you don’t respond you are also giving him what he wants. So instead you need to make a once a month entry into the journal. Do it like clockwork on the same day every month. Do it and respond to all of the issues only once a month.
If there are no issues then make a quick entry About some mundane issues, But make sure it’s nothing important or that you care about.
This way there are no responses to him specifically and no drama. Your behaviors are your choice not as a response to his pulling your strings.
FAD,
Again, Sky has it right.
LL