By Ox Drover
One of the themes that seems to run throughout the stories of many of, if not most of, the people who have had experiences with psychopaths is that we have either had repeated episodes of being abused by the same psychopath, even after we saw their dishonesty, or had episodes of being sucked into the webs of multiple psychopaths. Or, we have both of these—multiple episodes with multiple psychopaths.
Most of the people I have known who were formerly victims of psychopaths are not stupid. In fact, some of the smartest, most accomplished people I know are former victims, and have been repeatedly victimized by one psychopath after finding out that this person was dishonest and abusive. Somehow, they kept on going back to the relationship, even after multiple attempts to disengage from the abuser. Why? Why does a person who is smart, accomplished, and otherwise successful in life and business keep repeating the same behavior that allows them to be hurt?
There is an often-used quote, “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” It seems by this definition that the victims of psychopaths are “insane,” because we keep on trying to have a relationship with someone who is repeatedly abusive. There must be some reason that otherwise smart and successful people keep repeating the behavior that is unsuccessful in its outcome. There must be some common thread among victims and former victims that makes us susceptible to frequently returning to an unsuccessful and painful relationship.
Here’s a little story that may contain what may be a grain of truth that might point us toward the answer to the question of. “Why?”
The Chief and the Snake
Once upon a time there was a very wise and kind Indian chief. One day as the chief was walking through the forest, he came upon a rattlesnake in the path. He stopped and started to go around the snake, not wanting to hurt it, but not wanting to be bitten either.
As the chief started to pass around the snake, the snake spoke to him (not an unusual thing in those days) and said, “Chief, please have mercy on me, my wife and family are on the other side of yonder river, and I can’t swim, and I can’t get to them. Won’t you please pick me up and carry me across the river?”
The chief looked at the snake and laughed a bit and said, “Why, if I tried to pick you up you would bite me and I would die. I am sad that you have a problem but I must not be bitten, or I would die and my own children would starve because there would be no strong man with a bow to hunt brother deer to provide meat to my little ones. Though my heart feels sad for you, no, I must refuse to pick you up.”
The snake then spoke to the chief saying, “But such a brave man as you should not be afraid of such a small snake as I, and I promise from the bottom of my heart that I would never harm you if you were to help me across yon river. I am so afraid that if I am not able to get across, my wife and children will perish. Please help me in my hour of need.”
The chief looked at the snake and his heart was sad because he knew what it was like to have one’s children without food. His heart took pity on the snake, and he agreed to take the snake across the river, if the snake would agree not to bite him.
The chief reached out to pick up the snake and held him high over his head as he waded the swift and cold waters of the river. About half way across the river when the chief was doing his best to protect the snake from the cold waters, the snake reached down and bit him on the neck, sinking his poison fangs deep into the chief’s blood stream.
The chief was surprised and said to the snake, “Brother Snake, why did you bite me, now I will die and you will drown as well. You promised on your honor not to bite me if I would have mercy on you and help you, now we shall both die and our children starve. You promised me.”
The snake replied, “Ah yes, I promised, but you knew what I was when you picked me up,” as they both sank under the swirling cold water of the river.
What we have in common with the chief
What caused the chief to reach out and pick up a snake that he knew was poisonous, that he knew had the power to harm him, and that if he was wrong in making this decision to pick up the snake, and the snake did bite him, that his own children would suffer because of his decision?
Empathy is what the chief had, empathy for the children of the snake. Because the chief loved his own children, he assumed that the snake must also love its children. Just as the chief would do what was best for his children, he empathized that the snake would also do what was best. Since the chief knew that he would never do anything deliberately to cause consequences for his children, he did not see that the snake would deliberately do something that would cause problems for his own offspring.
Thinking that others have the same motivations that we have can get us into the same problems that the chief got into. The chief wanted to help the snake. He felt pity for the snake. He knew that he would not want someone to refuse to help him if it meant that he would die and his children would go hungry, so it never dawned on him that the snake would be willing to make a decision to do a deed that would insure that the snake-children would go hungry.
The chief’s empathy and his thinking that others had the same empathy, the same motivation for their behavior, and no reason to hurt another, even at the cost of hurting themselves or their near and dear, caused him to want to believe the snake’s promise not to bite.
The snake, however, was right. The chief knew what he was when he picked him up. When we allow ourselves to believe the promises of people who have proven that they are dishonest, we open ourselves to be repeatedly injured or even killed. When someone shows you what they are, believe your eyes. Believe what you see, not what you hear.
No Contact
“No contact” is the commonly accepted “treatment” for any abusive relationship. This means that only contact that is required by law (such as meeting that person in a courtroom due to a law uit) or the minimum amount of contact required by law to co-parent with such a person, is the only interaction between you and your former abuser. No contact allows the injuries to cease, and keeps you safe from new and repeated injuries from the abuser.
“No contact” also includes not stalking the person’s Facebook page or other social media. It means blocking or deleting any text messages, phone calls, e-mails or any other form of communication, including having others tell you what the former abuser is “up to.” Refusing to engage in tale carrying, gossip, or drama involved with the former abuser is also essential. If you must speak about the relationship, do it ONLY with a trusted friend or family member who sees that the relationship was/is abusive, and with assurances that the person will keep your information in absolute confidence. This process can be likened to “not renting them space in your head,” which includes wondering if they have a new relationship, and if they are making this new person happy o,r if they will change for this new person, or wondering if you were wrong about what they are.
You know what they are now, so don’t pick them up. NO CONTACT WORKS.
Hi Eden,
what a bummer that you are running into the spath.
I have to agree with you that NC is going to make you feel better than trying to “be strong”. As you know, I’ve tested “being strong” and it makes me crazy!! Just thinking about my parents makes me crazy! I think it’s because there is no closure, yet. Oxy has spoken a few times about creating our own closure. I still haven’t achieved that.
In a perfect world, we would be able to separate our emotions from our logic, long enough to control our physical reactions of panic and anxiety. If you ever figure out how, let me know.
Hi Eden,
I read your posr addressed to Oxy and here are my 2 cents. I went to this conference in Sydey, 2 weeks ago. Jerk was not there and I started off OK, but after 1 day and seeing colleagues who know him and even though his name was hardly mentioned twice, it threw me into a spin cycle and I landed up talking to him on the phone and weeping etc etc, rest of my story is in the posts above. In a way it taught me, that he is uncaring, heartless and undeserving of my love and tears.
I think any remote, involuntary contact in an environment which can bring his thoughts should be avoided. we should not think of it as “running away” from the scenario. we have to heal and the scab on the wound has to be as strong and and as resistant as new skin, before we go back there again.
i think what you are doing is similar to what I have in mind.
I learnt my lesson last week, where I wept and told him I missed him and opened up and peeled off the half formed or developing scab and my wound was raw and bare. so so painful.
petite
Hi Petite,
I have missed you, sweet friend. Yes, I have read your posts, and I am proud of you. Pay no mind to your recent slips and burns. They are now in the past and things like that happen to all of us at one point or another. You are growing. That is what I see in you, now. There is such an array of emotions which undulate throughout the process. I have learned that the process which we have to endure is incredible, and the strength that we all seem to posses here is miraculous and so incredibly significant. You are making it, step by step, Petite. I see a difference in you, as compared to when I first met you here, several weeks ago.
Much love to you,
Eden
Hi Eden,
yes thanks to all of you and our mentor Oxy. (smile)
I don’t care what he will reply to my email of missing him and getting back together, he said he will take few days to think, big deal, he can think forever.
whatever he says – my answer if at all, will be a non-emotional one sentence – X, I have rethinked it, just as you did over these days and logically thinking the distance betwwen us is a big obstacle for a healthy r-ship.
after that if he wants to start mind games or not, I don’t care. It doesn’t matter. no more musical chairs with Satan
petite
Hi Skylar,
Thank you so much! This is what I hoped to hear. It is interesting/strange, because at the point of the contact, I am not only grey rock, but I literally feel as though I tower over both of them, both physically and mentally. I do not feel that he is more pwerfull or stronger than I (not that you spoke of this). The problem lies solely with the past being stired up in my head. The reminders of his deception being triggered in my head. Him pulling off duping me. His trickery and abuse of me, a good human being, for his own self righteous, personal gain. I can’t keep going back to thst place. And if you remember the struggle I had with that long term, intense anger that I had expressed. If that were to occur again, I don’t know how I would deal with it.
Thank you! I am grateful for your input as it is just what I had wished to hear! A validation, and permission, all wrapped into one.
Love,
E
Hi Eden,
I second what Sky has to say.
healing is crucial, becoming strong will come with it.
thanks for your kind words.
he is such a bad man, deceiving, like you said – good hearts like us.
let him go and find low lying cheats and liars like him. I am done with wanting to feel bad for him.
petite.
Petite,
If you wish to know my thoughts on your matter, If it is at all possible, create a fresh new start for yourself. Deactivate the email account in which he has the address. Then create a new one. There is no reason nor use to have any further contact with him. He has disrespected you as a human being, therefore you must, from this very moment, forward, move forward with your life with a new, healthy, happy and vibrant outlook. Think of how incredible things will become for you! You deserve it, Petite. All of the goodness you can give to yourself. Starting this very moment. This is real. Don’t contemplate it. Take on this possitive role as a good friend to yourself!
Love,
E
Petite,
I do not feel bad for him. Nor do I have feelings for him. I haven’t in months. Being in his presence triggers thoughts of past incidences. I do not wish to have this occur, any longer. This is my sole issue at hand. I do so appreciate your care and concern, however. You are a sweatheart, Petite!
E
Hi Eden,
you said he has disrespected me as a human being.
can you explain how ? – as I think I am still looking at him thru rose colored glasses.
thanks
petite
Well Petite, first and formost… by allowing you to become victimized by him. They know what they are doing, Petite.