By Ox Drover
One of the themes that seems to run throughout the stories of many of, if not most of, the people who have had experiences with psychopaths is that we have either had repeated episodes of being abused by the same psychopath, even after we saw their dishonesty, or had episodes of being sucked into the webs of multiple psychopaths. Or, we have both of these—multiple episodes with multiple psychopaths.
Most of the people I have known who were formerly victims of psychopaths are not stupid. In fact, some of the smartest, most accomplished people I know are former victims, and have been repeatedly victimized by one psychopath after finding out that this person was dishonest and abusive. Somehow, they kept on going back to the relationship, even after multiple attempts to disengage from the abuser. Why? Why does a person who is smart, accomplished, and otherwise successful in life and business keep repeating the same behavior that allows them to be hurt?
There is an often-used quote, “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” It seems by this definition that the victims of psychopaths are “insane,” because we keep on trying to have a relationship with someone who is repeatedly abusive. There must be some reason that otherwise smart and successful people keep repeating the behavior that is unsuccessful in its outcome. There must be some common thread among victims and former victims that makes us susceptible to frequently returning to an unsuccessful and painful relationship.
Here’s a little story that may contain what may be a grain of truth that might point us toward the answer to the question of. “Why?”
The Chief and the Snake
Once upon a time there was a very wise and kind Indian chief. One day as the chief was walking through the forest, he came upon a rattlesnake in the path. He stopped and started to go around the snake, not wanting to hurt it, but not wanting to be bitten either.
As the chief started to pass around the snake, the snake spoke to him (not an unusual thing in those days) and said, “Chief, please have mercy on me, my wife and family are on the other side of yonder river, and I can’t swim, and I can’t get to them. Won’t you please pick me up and carry me across the river?”
The chief looked at the snake and laughed a bit and said, “Why, if I tried to pick you up you would bite me and I would die. I am sad that you have a problem but I must not be bitten, or I would die and my own children would starve because there would be no strong man with a bow to hunt brother deer to provide meat to my little ones. Though my heart feels sad for you, no, I must refuse to pick you up.”
The snake then spoke to the chief saying, “But such a brave man as you should not be afraid of such a small snake as I, and I promise from the bottom of my heart that I would never harm you if you were to help me across yon river. I am so afraid that if I am not able to get across, my wife and children will perish. Please help me in my hour of need.”
The chief looked at the snake and his heart was sad because he knew what it was like to have one’s children without food. His heart took pity on the snake, and he agreed to take the snake across the river, if the snake would agree not to bite him.
The chief reached out to pick up the snake and held him high over his head as he waded the swift and cold waters of the river. About half way across the river when the chief was doing his best to protect the snake from the cold waters, the snake reached down and bit him on the neck, sinking his poison fangs deep into the chief’s blood stream.
The chief was surprised and said to the snake, “Brother Snake, why did you bite me, now I will die and you will drown as well. You promised on your honor not to bite me if I would have mercy on you and help you, now we shall both die and our children starve. You promised me.”
The snake replied, “Ah yes, I promised, but you knew what I was when you picked me up,” as they both sank under the swirling cold water of the river.
What we have in common with the chief
What caused the chief to reach out and pick up a snake that he knew was poisonous, that he knew had the power to harm him, and that if he was wrong in making this decision to pick up the snake, and the snake did bite him, that his own children would suffer because of his decision?
Empathy is what the chief had, empathy for the children of the snake. Because the chief loved his own children, he assumed that the snake must also love its children. Just as the chief would do what was best for his children, he empathized that the snake would also do what was best. Since the chief knew that he would never do anything deliberately to cause consequences for his children, he did not see that the snake would deliberately do something that would cause problems for his own offspring.
Thinking that others have the same motivations that we have can get us into the same problems that the chief got into. The chief wanted to help the snake. He felt pity for the snake. He knew that he would not want someone to refuse to help him if it meant that he would die and his children would go hungry, so it never dawned on him that the snake would be willing to make a decision to do a deed that would insure that the snake-children would go hungry.
The chief’s empathy and his thinking that others had the same empathy, the same motivation for their behavior, and no reason to hurt another, even at the cost of hurting themselves or their near and dear, caused him to want to believe the snake’s promise not to bite.
The snake, however, was right. The chief knew what he was when he picked him up. When we allow ourselves to believe the promises of people who have proven that they are dishonest, we open ourselves to be repeatedly injured or even killed. When someone shows you what they are, believe your eyes. Believe what you see, not what you hear.
No Contact
“No contact” is the commonly accepted “treatment” for any abusive relationship. This means that only contact that is required by law (such as meeting that person in a courtroom due to a law uit) or the minimum amount of contact required by law to co-parent with such a person, is the only interaction between you and your former abuser. No contact allows the injuries to cease, and keeps you safe from new and repeated injuries from the abuser.
“No contact” also includes not stalking the person’s Facebook page or other social media. It means blocking or deleting any text messages, phone calls, e-mails or any other form of communication, including having others tell you what the former abuser is “up to.” Refusing to engage in tale carrying, gossip, or drama involved with the former abuser is also essential. If you must speak about the relationship, do it ONLY with a trusted friend or family member who sees that the relationship was/is abusive, and with assurances that the person will keep your information in absolute confidence. This process can be likened to “not renting them space in your head,” which includes wondering if they have a new relationship, and if they are making this new person happy o,r if they will change for this new person, or wondering if you were wrong about what they are.
You know what they are now, so don’t pick them up. NO CONTACT WORKS.
Sky,
Thank you for your post. I totally agree with you. The combo needs to be, for me, a therapist that can deal with DEEPLY entrenched childhood issues. It needs to be someone who deals with PTSD, sexual abuse, domestic violence and is FAMILIAR and well versed about Spaths in general.
I also appreciate, SO MUCH, your insight. I have learned so much from you and it has helped me to ask questions I wouldn’t know how to ask. It blesses me that you can understand what my questions are, when sometimes I don’t know how to ask them, still mired in slime.
Thank you Sky. YOu’ve been a tremendous friend, support and help.
LL
LL, I was not suggesting that you suck up to someone who thinks a psychopath can be cured—go quote me where I said that if you can—don’t put words in my mouth/fingers….I said let the therapist do their job, give them a chance and don’t “cross examine” them like a prosecutor to start out with…it doesn’t help the therapist help you….I am not going to say any more on the subject.
I don’t think everyone – or even most people – with credentials are necessarily good therapists or have their issues worked out themselves. I know because I went to grad school to become a therapist and there were very few, if any, of my colleagues I would want as a therapist. I would not have felt comfortable opening up to them. LL, I think you will intuitively know when you have found someone who can really help you. I’ve had so many bad ones and many who just missed the mark, several who were unethical – I won’t go into details. Trust your intuition to find the right one. I don’t sense at all that you are trying to avoid doing the work. I think you are very ready to do it.
Some therapists will ask you right away about your past and get you to tell them your story. That method never has worked for me because so many things in my past I have already processed. I like therapists who will ask me where I am in the present moment and help me process the thoughts and feelings as they are coming up in the moment. I have found that they ALWAYS lead back to past events. You actually CAN use the present experience to access the past. But I think any method can work if you find the right connection and a good therapist.
Dear Ana-Kerry,
My therapist actually thought my story was so bizarre that I had to take in documentation and a witness that I wasn’t a paranoid nut job! LOL But you know, sometimes our stories DO SOUND “crazeeee” or “insane”—-because they are not your typical break up story! LOL
The bottom line though about any therapy is that it becomes about US healing, not so much about what the specifics of the trauma were. It becomes about us changing the way we act and react and think and feel so that we can set boundaries and feel confident in our ability to enforce them as well as truly be intimate with those we love. You’ll do well I bet’ya! (((hugs)))
Star,
Thank you. If I was trying to avoid doing the work, I wouldn’t be so diligently busting my ass off to find the right therapist.
I’m going to go see this new therapist tomorrow. I’m referring to one of Steven’s articles about finding the right therapist filled with many questions that may feel like an interrogation, lol! A good therapist would be open to such questions.
I’m not afraid to ask them. I dont want to waste a potential therapists time and I certainly don’t want them to waste mine.
HOw’s that for strength Star?
Ox, your opinion has no bearing on what I know is right for me and how I choose, but I respect your right to have one, even when I don’t agree with it.
LL
Ox,
If you’ll read my post again, my response in sucking up to a therapist was not directed at your comments. They were in response to One’s statement. There was no attempt to put words into your mouth or type.
LL
Star-thanks, you get what I’m saying and I appreciate that and it is fun to have a crush. I was outside talking to her this afternoon cuz I may have a line on a job and she wanted to hear what I did today in my search. She had on a little pink sweater and she looked so pretty in it and I told her so. Have you ever read any of Steve Harvey’s books? I read “Act Like A Lady, Think Like A Man-What Men Really Think About Love, Relationships, Intimacy, and Commitment. He has another one that I haven’t read yet. His book helped me a lot. I read it last year when I was still getting over the ex spath. He talks about how long you should wait in a relationship to be intimate with a man and why. It helps you protect yourself. The books also addresses where I am with this lady too-since it addresses my masculine side. I obviously have SOME of the male attributes but not too many. I share how a gentleman treats and respects a lady that he cares about. That I identify with- and that’s about all. It does help with how slow I am able to progress this whole thing. It helps me to protect her the same way I would protect myself with a man. I don’t know if that makes sense to you. If you read the book you would know what I’m talking about. It’s all about protecting your heart. It helps me to protect my heart and hers. If a relationship doesn’t end up happening with her, then it doesn’t, but I won’t risk possibly hurting her to push it along just cuz my hormones act stupid a lot of times. I have all the patience in the world. I actually think I’m gonna re-read this book too cuz it might help me.
I just found out my spath was hooking up with random girls from FB and having ONS. gross
farwronged-that is really gross and I’m sorry.
Farwronged,
I’m sorry, I’m old. What does ONS mean?