By Ox Drover
One of the themes that seems to run throughout the stories of many of, if not most of, the people who have had experiences with psychopaths is that we have either had repeated episodes of being abused by the same psychopath, even after we saw their dishonesty, or had episodes of being sucked into the webs of multiple psychopaths. Or, we have both of these—multiple episodes with multiple psychopaths.
Most of the people I have known who were formerly victims of psychopaths are not stupid. In fact, some of the smartest, most accomplished people I know are former victims, and have been repeatedly victimized by one psychopath after finding out that this person was dishonest and abusive. Somehow, they kept on going back to the relationship, even after multiple attempts to disengage from the abuser. Why? Why does a person who is smart, accomplished, and otherwise successful in life and business keep repeating the same behavior that allows them to be hurt?
There is an often-used quote, “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” It seems by this definition that the victims of psychopaths are “insane,” because we keep on trying to have a relationship with someone who is repeatedly abusive. There must be some reason that otherwise smart and successful people keep repeating the behavior that is unsuccessful in its outcome. There must be some common thread among victims and former victims that makes us susceptible to frequently returning to an unsuccessful and painful relationship.
Here’s a little story that may contain what may be a grain of truth that might point us toward the answer to the question of. “Why?”
The Chief and the Snake
Once upon a time there was a very wise and kind Indian chief. One day as the chief was walking through the forest, he came upon a rattlesnake in the path. He stopped and started to go around the snake, not wanting to hurt it, but not wanting to be bitten either.
As the chief started to pass around the snake, the snake spoke to him (not an unusual thing in those days) and said, “Chief, please have mercy on me, my wife and family are on the other side of yonder river, and I can’t swim, and I can’t get to them. Won’t you please pick me up and carry me across the river?”
The chief looked at the snake and laughed a bit and said, “Why, if I tried to pick you up you would bite me and I would die. I am sad that you have a problem but I must not be bitten, or I would die and my own children would starve because there would be no strong man with a bow to hunt brother deer to provide meat to my little ones. Though my heart feels sad for you, no, I must refuse to pick you up.”
The snake then spoke to the chief saying, “But such a brave man as you should not be afraid of such a small snake as I, and I promise from the bottom of my heart that I would never harm you if you were to help me across yon river. I am so afraid that if I am not able to get across, my wife and children will perish. Please help me in my hour of need.”
The chief looked at the snake and his heart was sad because he knew what it was like to have one’s children without food. His heart took pity on the snake, and he agreed to take the snake across the river, if the snake would agree not to bite him.
The chief reached out to pick up the snake and held him high over his head as he waded the swift and cold waters of the river. About half way across the river when the chief was doing his best to protect the snake from the cold waters, the snake reached down and bit him on the neck, sinking his poison fangs deep into the chief’s blood stream.
The chief was surprised and said to the snake, “Brother Snake, why did you bite me, now I will die and you will drown as well. You promised on your honor not to bite me if I would have mercy on you and help you, now we shall both die and our children starve. You promised me.”
The snake replied, “Ah yes, I promised, but you knew what I was when you picked me up,” as they both sank under the swirling cold water of the river.
What we have in common with the chief
What caused the chief to reach out and pick up a snake that he knew was poisonous, that he knew had the power to harm him, and that if he was wrong in making this decision to pick up the snake, and the snake did bite him, that his own children would suffer because of his decision?
Empathy is what the chief had, empathy for the children of the snake. Because the chief loved his own children, he assumed that the snake must also love its children. Just as the chief would do what was best for his children, he empathized that the snake would also do what was best. Since the chief knew that he would never do anything deliberately to cause consequences for his children, he did not see that the snake would deliberately do something that would cause problems for his own offspring.
Thinking that others have the same motivations that we have can get us into the same problems that the chief got into. The chief wanted to help the snake. He felt pity for the snake. He knew that he would not want someone to refuse to help him if it meant that he would die and his children would go hungry, so it never dawned on him that the snake would be willing to make a decision to do a deed that would insure that the snake-children would go hungry.
The chief’s empathy and his thinking that others had the same empathy, the same motivation for their behavior, and no reason to hurt another, even at the cost of hurting themselves or their near and dear, caused him to want to believe the snake’s promise not to bite.
The snake, however, was right. The chief knew what he was when he picked him up. When we allow ourselves to believe the promises of people who have proven that they are dishonest, we open ourselves to be repeatedly injured or even killed. When someone shows you what they are, believe your eyes. Believe what you see, not what you hear.
No Contact
“No contact” is the commonly accepted “treatment” for any abusive relationship. This means that only contact that is required by law (such as meeting that person in a courtroom due to a law uit) or the minimum amount of contact required by law to co-parent with such a person, is the only interaction between you and your former abuser. No contact allows the injuries to cease, and keeps you safe from new and repeated injuries from the abuser.
“No contact” also includes not stalking the person’s Facebook page or other social media. It means blocking or deleting any text messages, phone calls, e-mails or any other form of communication, including having others tell you what the former abuser is “up to.” Refusing to engage in tale carrying, gossip, or drama involved with the former abuser is also essential. If you must speak about the relationship, do it ONLY with a trusted friend or family member who sees that the relationship was/is abusive, and with assurances that the person will keep your information in absolute confidence. This process can be likened to “not renting them space in your head,” which includes wondering if they have a new relationship, and if they are making this new person happy o,r if they will change for this new person, or wondering if you were wrong about what they are.
You know what they are now, so don’t pick them up. NO CONTACT WORKS.
Ox, it’s really strange, but it didn’t arrive. It’s not in my inbox or anything. I am SOL. It’s okay. I’ve read everything you posted. Thank you.
Really great article on psychology today about the PERILS OF CYBER DATING from Julia Spira. The guy she writes about sounds just like a SPATH!
http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/201012/the-thoroughly-modern-guide-breakups
Dear Superkid,
That is a great link! Thanks for posting that! The information given about breaking up—including “no contact” is all good stuff, even when dealing with a psychopath, we just have to STICK TO IT!!!! And Hold firm!
For that woman though, and how the doctor dumped her, it sort of makes me wonder if he wasn’t a bit psychopathic or narcissistic and callous and lacking empathy. I can’t imagine anyone who had ANY empathy, compassion or kindness in their soul breaking up with someone like that. WOW!
Hi all,
It has been some time since I have posted here. I broke No Contact.
I cannot say that it has been a negative experience at all. The very qualities that drew me to this man are endearing. He is nurturing and affectionate and a great lover.
And those are exactly the reasons I came back here. I know what lies underneath. I remember all the things he has done to me. I have counted the lovers he has had while we have been together….at least the ones I knew about. I can figure out his lies more easily. And I know on some level that he is so attentive so that he can get stuff.
But somehow none of that matters when I am with him. I enjoy the attention and the sheer fun we have just spending time together.
I had cut off all communication with him and was beginning to heal. He was living with another woman but still called me.
Once I drew that line with him, he came at me with a vengeance, calling multiple times each day, moving out from the other woman, begging me not to destroy what we had left between us. Yes, I saw the manipulativeness and I held off for awhile. But then he fell on hard times and it is exactly my empathy that he plays on, and that pulls me back into his web. When he is vulnerable, I feel I need to help him.
But I know I need a wake-up call so I re-read Ox’s piece at the header to this blog and welcome any and all feedback.
And I am moving soon, so have made steps to stop this nonsense with my head because my heart could not manage it.
Dear Trimama,
This article was WRITTEN FOR YOU—–because I see your kindness and your empathy but YOU KNOW WHAT HE IS, and if you allow him to convince you to “pick him up” he will bite you, just like the snake in the story.
You are NOT POWERLESS TO STOP YOURSELF—you can do what you know is right, what you know is self protective, or you can allow him to lure you back in.
When you stopped posting I figured you had broken no contact again, and I hope that you would be back to read this story…and maybe see yourself in it and it would help you, give you strength to think about Jessica’s fate.
My prayers are for you and your safety and your healing.
You know what he is, it is up to YOU if you pick him up or not, but if you pick him up, HE WILL BITE YOU. I can promise you that.
God bless you.
Dear Trimama, to quote Oxy “YOU ARE NOT POWERLESS”
Get away from him. PLEASE save yourself!!! (((hugs)))
Trimama,
just a little added warning, once you leave them, you’ve caused them a narcissistic injury. He will want revenge.
You’ve escalated the cycle, things will only get worse. And he will hide his rage, to make you think everything is ok, all the while plotting his revenge. They all do this.
To make matters worse, you’ve fed him more of what he craves: your empathy. So now he’s even more addicted to you than before. Gray rock can’t work if you use it and then stop using it. When you do that, you’re trauma bonding him. And in a spath that just makes them want to control you even more. Think of it like the one armed bandit in a casino, the intermittent payout makes you want to gamble more often.
When you get away, you have to make a clean break because that’s when they are the most dangerous and unpredictable.
Thank you Ox and Hope to Heal and Skylar!
Much appreciated.
I didn’t realize that he is addicted to me, that he is trauma bonded to me.
I’m also not so clear on what Gray Rock is.
I am already lured back in. We are re-connected and I hear the I love you’s. And I believe that he does love me. Although I understand from Ox’s article above that our ideas of love vary greatly.
I told him the snake story and he did not disagree. He acknowledges his patterns of hurt and lies and cheating and all the rest. At one point, he told me he as a “mean, selfish mother f-c-er.”
All of this does not make him any less dangerous.
In fact, I should note that I began seeing a therapist some time back in order to bring clarity to this situation. I introduced him to my therapist recently. Then asked for her impressions.
She is an older, wiser woman not easily swayed by the usual male power plays, yet even she admitted that he was powerfully seductive and charming…not of the in-your-face style,but more subtle. And therefore more deadly. You just don’t see how you are hooked until the barb is down your throat.
I have a clean exit planned for the end of next week. I have been given a golden opportunity to begin a new life away from here, where he is.
I just need to get through this next ten days.
Trimama ~ Please stay safe! I hope you are able to make this move without his knowledge. That would be the safest thing for you. I will keep you in my prayers. ((hugs))
Trimama,
You’ve been given great advice here and I agree with all of it. I DO understand how you’re feeling, but while it’s real for you, it IS NOT for him.
But…..I think what is very telling here is that you came to post at all. That is a huge step for you after having gone back. That tells me that you know what’s happening isn’t right with him. I think you’re on the right track.
Kudos to you for understanding that what you’re seeing is not right. It’s okay that you didn’t do it “right” (whatever that is) the first time. You have another chance.
So for you and those that love you, if you’re serious about getting out of it, this time, get the support you need before you leave so that you’re completely safe. You say that you’re moving. This is a good thing. You have this blog and others in the real world around you that can help. Try to enlist the assistance of your local Women’s Services. They can help you with a safety plan and you can share your experiences in a support group, even if you’re not out yet. You can brainstorm with them in an atmosphere that is nonjudgmental, which is what you need, as well as firm in the consequences if you stay.
Ultimately, this is your decision, Trimama. It’s a very difficult and painful one and a very long process.
But just the reality that you’ve come back to share about it, tells me you know what’s right.
So all you need now is more encouragement around you to do it, implement it and live a life free of abuse.
God Bless Sweetie.
LL