By Ox Drover
One of the themes that seems to run throughout the stories of many of, if not most of, the people who have had experiences with psychopaths is that we have either had repeated episodes of being abused by the same psychopath, even after we saw their dishonesty, or had episodes of being sucked into the webs of multiple psychopaths. Or, we have both of these—multiple episodes with multiple psychopaths.
Most of the people I have known who were formerly victims of psychopaths are not stupid. In fact, some of the smartest, most accomplished people I know are former victims, and have been repeatedly victimized by one psychopath after finding out that this person was dishonest and abusive. Somehow, they kept on going back to the relationship, even after multiple attempts to disengage from the abuser. Why? Why does a person who is smart, accomplished, and otherwise successful in life and business keep repeating the same behavior that allows them to be hurt?
There is an often-used quote, “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” It seems by this definition that the victims of psychopaths are “insane,” because we keep on trying to have a relationship with someone who is repeatedly abusive. There must be some reason that otherwise smart and successful people keep repeating the behavior that is unsuccessful in its outcome. There must be some common thread among victims and former victims that makes us susceptible to frequently returning to an unsuccessful and painful relationship.
Here’s a little story that may contain what may be a grain of truth that might point us toward the answer to the question of. “Why?”
The Chief and the Snake
Once upon a time there was a very wise and kind Indian chief. One day as the chief was walking through the forest, he came upon a rattlesnake in the path. He stopped and started to go around the snake, not wanting to hurt it, but not wanting to be bitten either.
As the chief started to pass around the snake, the snake spoke to him (not an unusual thing in those days) and said, “Chief, please have mercy on me, my wife and family are on the other side of yonder river, and I can’t swim, and I can’t get to them. Won’t you please pick me up and carry me across the river?”
The chief looked at the snake and laughed a bit and said, “Why, if I tried to pick you up you would bite me and I would die. I am sad that you have a problem but I must not be bitten, or I would die and my own children would starve because there would be no strong man with a bow to hunt brother deer to provide meat to my little ones. Though my heart feels sad for you, no, I must refuse to pick you up.”
The snake then spoke to the chief saying, “But such a brave man as you should not be afraid of such a small snake as I, and I promise from the bottom of my heart that I would never harm you if you were to help me across yon river. I am so afraid that if I am not able to get across, my wife and children will perish. Please help me in my hour of need.”
The chief looked at the snake and his heart was sad because he knew what it was like to have one’s children without food. His heart took pity on the snake, and he agreed to take the snake across the river, if the snake would agree not to bite him.
The chief reached out to pick up the snake and held him high over his head as he waded the swift and cold waters of the river. About half way across the river when the chief was doing his best to protect the snake from the cold waters, the snake reached down and bit him on the neck, sinking his poison fangs deep into the chief’s blood stream.
The chief was surprised and said to the snake, “Brother Snake, why did you bite me, now I will die and you will drown as well. You promised on your honor not to bite me if I would have mercy on you and help you, now we shall both die and our children starve. You promised me.”
The snake replied, “Ah yes, I promised, but you knew what I was when you picked me up,” as they both sank under the swirling cold water of the river.
What we have in common with the chief
What caused the chief to reach out and pick up a snake that he knew was poisonous, that he knew had the power to harm him, and that if he was wrong in making this decision to pick up the snake, and the snake did bite him, that his own children would suffer because of his decision?
Empathy is what the chief had, empathy for the children of the snake. Because the chief loved his own children, he assumed that the snake must also love its children. Just as the chief would do what was best for his children, he empathized that the snake would also do what was best. Since the chief knew that he would never do anything deliberately to cause consequences for his children, he did not see that the snake would deliberately do something that would cause problems for his own offspring.
Thinking that others have the same motivations that we have can get us into the same problems that the chief got into. The chief wanted to help the snake. He felt pity for the snake. He knew that he would not want someone to refuse to help him if it meant that he would die and his children would go hungry, so it never dawned on him that the snake would be willing to make a decision to do a deed that would insure that the snake-children would go hungry.
The chief’s empathy and his thinking that others had the same empathy, the same motivation for their behavior, and no reason to hurt another, even at the cost of hurting themselves or their near and dear, caused him to want to believe the snake’s promise not to bite.
The snake, however, was right. The chief knew what he was when he picked him up. When we allow ourselves to believe the promises of people who have proven that they are dishonest, we open ourselves to be repeatedly injured or even killed. When someone shows you what they are, believe your eyes. Believe what you see, not what you hear.
No Contact
“No contact” is the commonly accepted “treatment” for any abusive relationship. This means that only contact that is required by law (such as meeting that person in a courtroom due to a law uit) or the minimum amount of contact required by law to co-parent with such a person, is the only interaction between you and your former abuser. No contact allows the injuries to cease, and keeps you safe from new and repeated injuries from the abuser.
“No contact” also includes not stalking the person’s Facebook page or other social media. It means blocking or deleting any text messages, phone calls, e-mails or any other form of communication, including having others tell you what the former abuser is “up to.” Refusing to engage in tale carrying, gossip, or drama involved with the former abuser is also essential. If you must speak about the relationship, do it ONLY with a trusted friend or family member who sees that the relationship was/is abusive, and with assurances that the person will keep your information in absolute confidence. This process can be likened to “not renting them space in your head,” which includes wondering if they have a new relationship, and if they are making this new person happy o,r if they will change for this new person, or wondering if you were wrong about what they are.
You know what they are now, so don’t pick them up. NO CONTACT WORKS.
Thank you very much, Ox Drover! I can’t tell you how helpfull all of this is to hear!
Have a beautiful Sunday Afternoon!
((((( HUGS ))))))
>< “A FISH” HEE HEE
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Well, I typed a picture of a fish for you, Ox, however when I “Posted” it did not appear. Anyway…Have a lovely day!
Love,
Eden
Eden, thanks for the thought! I just went outside and worked up a bit of a sweat working in the raised bed gardens and digging in the compost pile with a shovel! It is a lovely Peaceful sunday afternoon to work in the garden or just stroll around and look at the wild flowers and catch a glimpse of the cotton tails playing love games and chasing each other—the harbinger of baby bunnies to come! LOL
Living P-free is wonderful and I wish that for each of us. Get them out of our lives and out of our HEADS! (((hugs)))
Oxy, thanks! 😀
That good chief had too bad luck and could neither benefit himself nor transmit the lesson he leant.
But the ones who have survived won’t missed the lesson: a psychopath is always a psychopath.
Though i feel the lesson, if learnt, of course when one survives, is very useful because being face to face to a psychopath grows a sort of sensitive radar that detects not just that little percentage of highly dangerous creatures, but also the other higher percentage of very toxic people (envious, malignant embittered, exploiters, materialistics, users, etc). Psychopaths are the limit of toxicity, but there are also non psychopathic snakes from whom i’ll keep distance, too.
Psychopaths develop our snake radar. That’s their use in our life. Isn’t it a valuable lesson for our future surviving?
Oxy, thanks for telling nice tales with moral included 🙂
Dear Eva,
I wrote this article for you since you asked me for one about NC….and I thought about this story which I heard a long time ago. And you are RIGHT, it isn’t only the psychopaths that bite us, there are others who are toxic as well….not only snakes, (psychopaths) but scorpions, and spiders and wasps, etc. so we need to stay away from anything or any one that is TOXIC! (((hugs)))
Skylar
Thanks. What a strange thing for your neighbors husband to say. I am thinking about what you said. Maybe my spath and his domestic partner ex wife don’t have sex. I know it doesn’t matter, but it’s one of these things that bugs me until I figure it out.
I have always believed that if you need to have a lot of words to describe something you don’t truly understand it. If you can discover the “root cause”, then it’s usually a very simple thing. I saw an article on LF where somebody proposed that perhaps the “root” of sociopathy is inability to love. I think this is quite accurate. If there is a gaping hole n somebody’s heart rather than love, there is a whole lot of emptiness to fill without a lot of direction. Hence the spath’s meaningless drive for power over people.
I would really like to learn more about enablers of sociopaths. Any other thoughts or reflections you have are most, most, most appreciated.
Superkid10
My Spath had a favorite movie… from the time we were in contact again after 20-some years until the “end game” got played out, he kept asking me if I’d ever seen “The Prophecy”… I had not. He kept telling me what a great movie it was and I kept saying “I’ll have to watch it some time.”
I should have watched it sooner. Six months after the end game I had the opportunity. I realized in the middle of the flick that not only is the Spath a narcissist, but he thinks he’s an angel as well. Specifically, Gabriel.
The movie is about the angels being jealous of God’s love for humans so much that they try to destroy God’s love for them so they can be superior.
I knew immediately what he was trying to tell me when I heard the quote:
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The Prophecy
Gabriel: “I’m an angel. I kill firstborns while their mamas watch. I turn cities into salt. I even, when I feel like it, rip the souls from little girls, and from now till kingdom come, the only thing you can count on in your existence is never understanding why.”
No contact INDEED! Pure, unadulterated EVIL!
Peace!
Ravenless Tower
Please don’t feed the sociopaths!
ravenlesstower – that is chilling. my spath had a ‘thing’ about being an angel, too. piece of shit that she is.
Hi All,
I am back, with head hung low, because I had once again broken No Contact. Yep, I went back AGAIN. Just for more of the same. I tried to stay strong. I thought I had him out of my system. I didn’t. I gave it one last try. Now, I am done. No turning back, no more of precious time wasted on his games.
I am starting back at square one. Been one week with no contact. I came back hoping that those that were so helpful to me before would still be here, and I see a lot of you are. And I see lots of new members too.
I am back to stay. I can never, NEVER give him another chance to hoover me back in. I deserve so much better. I am going to work on me (again). I have much to share (vent) starting tomorrow. I am tired and need to stop reading here and get my butt to bed. I hope to see you all in the morning.
Findingmyself,
Good job! Your strength will return! You can do this!
Sleep well!
Eden