By Ox Drover
One of the themes that seems to run throughout the stories of many of, if not most of, the people who have had experiences with psychopaths is that we have either had repeated episodes of being abused by the same psychopath, even after we saw their dishonesty, or had episodes of being sucked into the webs of multiple psychopaths. Or, we have both of these—multiple episodes with multiple psychopaths.
Most of the people I have known who were formerly victims of psychopaths are not stupid. In fact, some of the smartest, most accomplished people I know are former victims, and have been repeatedly victimized by one psychopath after finding out that this person was dishonest and abusive. Somehow, they kept on going back to the relationship, even after multiple attempts to disengage from the abuser. Why? Why does a person who is smart, accomplished, and otherwise successful in life and business keep repeating the same behavior that allows them to be hurt?
There is an often-used quote, “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” It seems by this definition that the victims of psychopaths are “insane,” because we keep on trying to have a relationship with someone who is repeatedly abusive. There must be some reason that otherwise smart and successful people keep repeating the behavior that is unsuccessful in its outcome. There must be some common thread among victims and former victims that makes us susceptible to frequently returning to an unsuccessful and painful relationship.
Here’s a little story that may contain what may be a grain of truth that might point us toward the answer to the question of. “Why?”
The Chief and the Snake
Once upon a time there was a very wise and kind Indian chief. One day as the chief was walking through the forest, he came upon a rattlesnake in the path. He stopped and started to go around the snake, not wanting to hurt it, but not wanting to be bitten either.
As the chief started to pass around the snake, the snake spoke to him (not an unusual thing in those days) and said, “Chief, please have mercy on me, my wife and family are on the other side of yonder river, and I can’t swim, and I can’t get to them. Won’t you please pick me up and carry me across the river?”
The chief looked at the snake and laughed a bit and said, “Why, if I tried to pick you up you would bite me and I would die. I am sad that you have a problem but I must not be bitten, or I would die and my own children would starve because there would be no strong man with a bow to hunt brother deer to provide meat to my little ones. Though my heart feels sad for you, no, I must refuse to pick you up.”
The snake then spoke to the chief saying, “But such a brave man as you should not be afraid of such a small snake as I, and I promise from the bottom of my heart that I would never harm you if you were to help me across yon river. I am so afraid that if I am not able to get across, my wife and children will perish. Please help me in my hour of need.”
The chief looked at the snake and his heart was sad because he knew what it was like to have one’s children without food. His heart took pity on the snake, and he agreed to take the snake across the river, if the snake would agree not to bite him.
The chief reached out to pick up the snake and held him high over his head as he waded the swift and cold waters of the river. About half way across the river when the chief was doing his best to protect the snake from the cold waters, the snake reached down and bit him on the neck, sinking his poison fangs deep into the chief’s blood stream.
The chief was surprised and said to the snake, “Brother Snake, why did you bite me, now I will die and you will drown as well. You promised on your honor not to bite me if I would have mercy on you and help you, now we shall both die and our children starve. You promised me.”
The snake replied, “Ah yes, I promised, but you knew what I was when you picked me up,” as they both sank under the swirling cold water of the river.
What we have in common with the chief
What caused the chief to reach out and pick up a snake that he knew was poisonous, that he knew had the power to harm him, and that if he was wrong in making this decision to pick up the snake, and the snake did bite him, that his own children would suffer because of his decision?
Empathy is what the chief had, empathy for the children of the snake. Because the chief loved his own children, he assumed that the snake must also love its children. Just as the chief would do what was best for his children, he empathized that the snake would also do what was best. Since the chief knew that he would never do anything deliberately to cause consequences for his children, he did not see that the snake would deliberately do something that would cause problems for his own offspring.
Thinking that others have the same motivations that we have can get us into the same problems that the chief got into. The chief wanted to help the snake. He felt pity for the snake. He knew that he would not want someone to refuse to help him if it meant that he would die and his children would go hungry, so it never dawned on him that the snake would be willing to make a decision to do a deed that would insure that the snake-children would go hungry.
The chief’s empathy and his thinking that others had the same empathy, the same motivation for their behavior, and no reason to hurt another, even at the cost of hurting themselves or their near and dear, caused him to want to believe the snake’s promise not to bite.
The snake, however, was right. The chief knew what he was when he picked him up. When we allow ourselves to believe the promises of people who have proven that they are dishonest, we open ourselves to be repeatedly injured or even killed. When someone shows you what they are, believe your eyes. Believe what you see, not what you hear.
No Contact
“No contact” is the commonly accepted “treatment” for any abusive relationship. This means that only contact that is required by law (such as meeting that person in a courtroom due to a law uit) or the minimum amount of contact required by law to co-parent with such a person, is the only interaction between you and your former abuser. No contact allows the injuries to cease, and keeps you safe from new and repeated injuries from the abuser.
“No contact” also includes not stalking the person’s Facebook page or other social media. It means blocking or deleting any text messages, phone calls, e-mails or any other form of communication, including having others tell you what the former abuser is “up to.” Refusing to engage in tale carrying, gossip, or drama involved with the former abuser is also essential. If you must speak about the relationship, do it ONLY with a trusted friend or family member who sees that the relationship was/is abusive, and with assurances that the person will keep your information in absolute confidence. This process can be likened to “not renting them space in your head,” which includes wondering if they have a new relationship, and if they are making this new person happy o,r if they will change for this new person, or wondering if you were wrong about what they are.
You know what they are now, so don’t pick them up. NO CONTACT WORKS.
abbri
Welcome to LF. You are amongst friends who will help you to understand what he has done to you and how you can heal.
They always move on to the next ’supply’. Thank your lucky stars he’s gone.
Finding out about the new woman (or man) helps in our healing process. You cannot save her ”“ she has to save herself. You have sown the seed of doubt in her head, she will work it out in time.
This site is the BEST therapy ”“ trust me the people here ’get it’.
We probably all felt stupid at first, it’s a natural reaction. But you will come to realise that you were not stupid, you were sucked in because you are a good person. Spaths always have ’good people’ in their sites.
Cheaters ”“ yep, they all do that, usually have 2 or 3 women on the go at any one time. They always have the next supply lined up, if that fails they go back to an old flame.
Shame and embarrassment are normal ’how could I have been so gullible?’ once you start to explain to people it’s amazing how they understand. Remember they were sucked into Mr Nice Guy too.
Don’t worry at this stage about your age or finding Mr Right. It’s too soon. Give yourself time.
It does get easier. NO CONTACT is the only way forward. Don’t read his emails, answer his calls”nothing. It’s the only way to get him out of your head.
I am 6 months spath free and I still come here and read every day. And everyday I find something ’new’ and go ’aha’ and another piece of the jigsaw falls into place.
Abbri….
The hardest part for me was also WHY I stayed even though I KNEW he was lying all along. When I figured out it was the betrayal bond and low self esteem that came from my childhood….I was able to STOP blaming MYSELF for the poor choices I made. What I did filled a NEED I had at THAT time!
So, I stopped hating myself…the weak part, that allowed him to use me and abuse me.
Once I got over that…I was able to love myself again…and move on and begin to get into my body, get moving, set new goals to be the best I could be for ME…so that I never feel so inadequate and insecure again to allow someone to use me.
It took time, to take care of my emotions..to get into my spirituality, to take care of my body….and to build myself up again…along with guidance from a therapist…..and I am SO much better than I was a few years ago.
So, my point is that once you get over beating yourself up and wondering WHY you stayed, recovery begins. You filled a NEED you had AT THAT TIME IN YOUR LIFE. Thats it. Final.
THe fact that you reached a point that you don’t NEED someone in your life that doesn’t cherish you and love you, is the beginning of your healing process.
I hope this helps. Stop beating yourself up. You did what you needed to do at that time in your life. Now, you are ready to grow and change into a person that doesn’t need ANYONE out there to make you happy.
Farwronged
Yes, my spath was extraordinarily affectionate. Always touching me. People commented, “look at how in love those two people are!” because he always held my hand, always stroked me….
I just think this. I know my spath woke up every day wanting to do evil. He wanted sex, he wanted money, and he wanted power and control.
So the touching was no more than a tool to ensure he got what he wanted. Power and control over me, and sex from me.
My spath slept with so many women, I’m sure. Perhaps your spath did too. Their touching skills are well developed to respond to our wishes and desires. They are mirrors. They are who we want them to be.
That’s what I think.
Superkid10
Abbri
Welcome to lovefraud. I know exactly where you’re coming from. I recently separated from my spath (three weeks ago) after a 3 year relationship. I’m in my mid 40s. He’s already back with his ex, like nothing ever happened. I dumped my spath 100 times at least in three years, just like you. All his bullshit behaviors.
I encourage you to stay on this site. Read everything here.
Talk with the rest of us. We’re all struggling to keep this creatures out of our lives and stay away from them. Holy shit, who knew human beings were like that? I didn’t.
I am committed to having a better life without my spath.
The transition really sucks.
Superkid10
SK: Yes my spath was the slut of all sluts. AND he did not like using protection. He was so sloppy with his cheating. He actually preferred bi women so that way it was easier for him to do what he wanted and fulfill his fantasies. YUCK. I think he slept with someone right before I came over the week we broke up. He sprayed the room and had a towel on the bed. He didnt take a full shower only a whore bath. How can someone do these things?
farwronged and superkid, remember that an affectionate touch releases oxytocin (the bonding hormone ) in the brain.
So, the more you engage in physical touch with these guys, the tighter they are wrapping their webs around you.
Oh I remember asking how many sex partners he had and he said 20 then it changed to 40. His definition of patrners was women who he screwed more than once. His uneducated ass did not consider ONS and women he was with only once as partners! Stupid ass! Who knows, maybe thousands! He used to buy strippers and prostitutes and meet women online, BEFORE ME, he said. That was his awful past. Ha
Kim: Thanks for pinting that out. Very true!
I have had email contact with my spath a few times. Of course to torture him. He rans quickly when i ask him if psychopathy is genetic and if there are many psychopaths in his genealogical tree and if they also have psychopathic eyes.
He runs like a demon, doesn’t answer to those questions, and dessapears. These psychos…
Eva: Wow, i was wondering what pushes their buttons. Do they really know what they are? I told my spath he was disordered and a waste of space on this universe during our break up. That was before I started reading here and fully figured out what he was. I know it did not hurt his feelings. They say they are cowards and their biggest fear is exposure.