Dear Mr. or Ms. Esquire,
When a client tells you his or her opponent is a sociopath, please be aware of the ramifications for your legal case.
First of all, do not disregard the statement just because the opponent hasn’t killed anyone. A common perception is that sociopaths (people who have antisocial, narcissistic, borderline, histrionic or psychopathic personality disorders) are all deranged serial killers. This is not true—only a small percentage of sociopaths commit murder. But all sociopaths are social predators, and live by exploiting others.
Frequently this is financial exploitation—many sociopaths are skilled con artists—but not always. Sociopaths also target people who can provide them with a place to live, business connections, sex, housekeeping or other support services, children, or a respectable image in the community while they live double lives. The point is that sociopaths intentionally use manipulation and deceit to hook their target. They continue the manipulation and deceit to keep the exploitation going, bleeding the target until there is nothing left. At that point, some sociopaths abandon the target, moving on without a backward glance.
Sometimes, however, the target gets wise to the sociopath, and wants to end the involvement. At this point, some sociopaths become enraged at the possibility of losing control, and set out to crush the target. They are not interested in compromise or equitable distribution. They do not want to give the target whatever he or she is entitled to. They want to grind the target into the dirt.
What you need to understand about sociopaths
1. A sociopath’s prime objective is power and control. All they want is to win.
2. Sociopaths love the drama of court because it gives them an opportunity to win. They do not consider the possibility that they may lose. If they do lose, they view it a bump in the road, and figure out how to attack the target again. Forcing the target to incur steadily mounting legal expenses is considered a win.
3. Sociopaths lie. They lie convincingly. They have no qualms about lying in court documents or on the witness stand.
4. Sociopaths manipulate other people to lie for them. These witnesses may not know they are lying—they may simply believe everything that the sociopath has told them, because sociopaths are so convincing.
5. Sociopaths feel no obligation to follow court orders or the law. They only follow court orders or the law if they perceive an advantage in doing so. But they are experts at figuring out ways to use the law to further their objective, which is to crush your client.
How people become targets
Most of us believe that people are basically good inside and everybody just wants to be loved. Because we do not know that there are exceptions to these beliefs—namely, sociopaths—we have huge blind spots that these predators can exploit.
No normal person intentionally becomes involved with a lying, manipulative sociopath. So when your client tells you outrageous stories of the sociopath’s behavior, and also says he or she never knew about the behavior, or accepted the sociopath’s explanations, your client is most likely telling the truth.
How do these entanglements happen? Sociopaths are always on the lookout for people they can use. When they encounter someone through any social interaction, they quickly evaluate whether that person has something that they want. If the answer is yes, they assess the person for vulnerabilities. Then they figure out how to exploit the person’s vulnerabilities to achieve their objective.
Sociopaths engage in calculated seduction. If you’re handling a divorce case, the seduction was romantic. If it’s some other type of case, the seduction may have involved shared beliefs, aspirations or goals. Either way, in the beginning of the involvement the target is subject to a wonderful honeymoon of admiration and promise.
Once the target is hooked, the sociopath begins the exploitation, while simultaneously ramping up manipulation to keep the target under control. This may involve:
- Isolating the target from his or her support network
- Emotional, psychological, verbal, physical, sexual or financial abuse
- Gaslighting—making the target doubt his or her own perceptions
What you need to understand about the target
1. Involvement with a sociopath is like living in a black hole of chaos. Your client, the target, has probably had every aspect of his or her life disrupted:
- Career interrupted
- Finances ruined
- Health compromised
- Home and property neglected
- Relationships shattered
By the time the legal action commenced, your client may have already been in free fall for a long time. He or she may feel overwhelmed by the magnitude of the issues that need to be addressed.
2. Involvement with a sociopath can cause post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). At one time PTSD was diagnosed only in relation to a single traumatic event that involved risk of serious injury or death, coupled with intense fear, horror or helplessness. A new definition identifies a type of PTSD — complex PTSD — that results from cumulative trauma and long-term injury.
3. PTSD is a psychiatric injury (not a mental illness). PTSD causes biochemical changes in the brain and affects certain areas of the brain’s anatomy. Common symptoms include intrusive thoughts, nightmares, flashbacks, difficulty concentrating and exhaustion.
4. The litigation against the sociopath makes your client re-experience the underlying trauma and triggers the symptoms of PTSD. Dr. Karin Huffer, in her book Unlocking Justice, explains what happens:
Mentally reliving the trauma during legal proceedings simultaneously activates parts of the brain that support intense emotions while diminishing the functions of the central nervous system that controls motor output, regulates physiological arousal, and impedes the ability to communicate in words. Memory fails and intrusive emotions sabotage concentration on the task at hand. Litigants feel incapable of the spontaneous verbal response and interaction required in typical courtroom exchanges. As a result, the litigant with PTSD might be driven to avoid topics. They literally do not hear them. They disconnect when they need to engage. And, at times, they clearly are nonfunctional and are unable to communicate their symptoms and needs in a formal manner accepted by the courts.
5. Targets of sociopaths have been deceived, betrayed and perhaps subjected to violence. They approach the courts expecting justice, which sociopaths actively thwart. When justice is denied, and targets instead experience profound and prolonged injustice, their PTSD takes on another dimension, which Huffer identifies as “Legal Abuse Syndrome.”
Your client’s experience
The goal of this letter, Mr. or Ms. Esquire, is to help you understand what your client has experienced. My objective is to explain why he or she may be having difficulties with the litigation process, and difficulties moving on in life. The sociopath intentionally used your client—perhaps for years—and may be intentionally attempting to destroy him or her now.
Your client is not irrational, lazy or obstinate. Your client is having a normal reaction to profound betrayal.
Sincerely,
Donna Andersen
Author, Lovefraud.com, and a former litigant against a sociopath
Im so sorry you went through this hell….I’m also burned out by living in a “black hole of chaos” while raising the kids to be good citizens,I cant believe I survived so far. I can sooooooooo relate to every word .How can we report them from this abuse and distruction that they cause? Im very concerned for the children,and how they will cope in their adult lives in normal relationships..
My judge is a female sociopath that harms women and children intentionally.She lets the male sociopaths(especially rich ones) get away with any story, they want to sell her. She has squashed countless women with her cruel rulings, even when there is loads of money to go around to both parties,when no one needs to suffer further.
I thank God I found this website. How horrible can people get?
Totally relate to the whole ‘victim’ scenario. I kicked my spath out of my life right after high school…she wormed her way back in again…but not for long.
Unfortunately I had to pretend that my parents and sibs cared about me (they did not). I put words in their mouths that should have been there in the first place…and I really ‘let her have it’…in “their words” (that they never said).
I wish I could be more positive about the legal community when it comes to dealing with a sociopath/psychopath, but sadly it’s quite discouraging.
My experience is that their are either disordered themselves or they just dont give a crap.
One of the largest impediments to domestic abuse in our culuture is our legal system.
It’s a fight that we are losing. Still.
Truth be told, even judges can be sociopaths.
My case came under the destructive control of Judge Hortense Gable- now deceased. She was the judge in the case of Andy Capasso who together with his girlfriend, Bess Meyerson, allegedly bribed her into reducing his child support payments. It made front page news in the NY Times. Ms. Meyerson, a former Miss America, was reported to give a job to Judge Gable’s daughter.
Capasso lived at 990 Fifth Avenue, in New York City, a 12 story structure that houses a total of 6 apartments that all overlook Central Park and The Metropolitan Museum of Art. All the apartments in the building are duplexes that take up two entire floors. Capasso, who pleaded his case to reduce his obligations of support for his child, built a Juliet balcony to step out on and gaze at his magnificent view.
Ultimately I learned that my husband, who feigned being homeless,lived in the same building with his extraordinarily wealthy girlfriend, the heiress to a music fortune. Gable awarded me $30 per week in child support. His address was untraceable at the time. His income was untraceable at the time. He barely paid his child support until he disappeared entirely when my son was about 6 years old.
Gable was removed from the bench, but not until she horribly impacted so many lives. They say that the deeds of our lifetime create ever lasting life. The name of Judge Hortense Gable lives on in infamy!
If you are in a case with a judge who hands down horrid decisions, try to reach the Supervising Judge and remind them of the history of Hortense Gable.
If you need more information, you can reach me at jm_short@ymail.com or at my blog, http://www.CADalert.blogspot.com
Joyce
Is it common for a lawyer to charge you $10 every time they call you and leave a message and to charge $150 to read an email asking for an invoice, prepare that invoice, and email it back to you? This is insane.
It is very common. As I said my post, my legal bills were just shy of a half million dollars. Yes fighting the incredible damage that a dead spath did is difficult.
Lawyers will bill you at their regular billing rate for travel; back and forth to opposing lawyers offices for pretrial matters, traveling to court. That is in addition to the mileage for their car. They will bill you at regular rate for lunch.
If expert witness as necessary, the experts will charge you for the travel time in addition to travel expenses. I my case, my attorney found an expert for across the country. I had to pay for his plane fare and all expenses (he booked them, I did not have a choice as to where he stay or how he flew) plus charged me a “reduced” fee for his flying time. Oh yes, I had to Fedex him the costs of his expenses before he would even come. I had no say in selecting the expert witnesses. One of the experts would not even take a call from me.
There was more than one month that I got bills for $30,000.00 plus.
Don’t forget you will be billed for every photocopy, costs of postage, and every other cost involved in you case.
Please everyone, not all lawyers are bad/evil/a rip off.
I am not talking about the dead spath. Yes he graduated from Ivy League in the top of his class with all the honors that go with it. BUT he worked less than 6 years in 3 jobs over the 28 years since he graduated. YES, no job was ever good enough; no one appreciated him. Whether he quit, was fired, or was asked to leave, I was never able to find out.
When the spath died and I discovered at least some of his fraud, forgery, and lies within a week, I knew I would need legal representation(on my mother’s behalf). I contacted law firm after law firm. 7 in total. After hearing what I needed, all turned me down. Reasons ranged from “it is a movie not a legal matter”; I wouldn’t know where to begin” to “when is the book coming out”.
The brokerage house I going up against kept pressuring me to get a lawyer. Eventually I was recommended a small local firm, that I passed for years. I gave them a call. These people are wonderful. They could not represent in the suit against the brokerage as that was not within their field of expertise.They did do everything that was in their practice field. But they held my hand throughout everything, listening and really caring. They still do today, even though the brokerage suit is over.
As a matter of fact I emailed a copy of Donna’s ‘open letter’ to them and here is the reply I got:
“The blog article is interesting. Unfortunately, we have seen and/or heard about too many of those kind of people over the years (including but not limited to XXXXX).”
I Xed out my spath’s name.
There are caring people, the gift is to find them.
I really lucked out by not having kids…my first spath wanted them when he could barely pay the child support for his first three…and that was my answer to him.
I would like to tell a little about my story because I got divorced twice and never had an attorney. With the first one, we refinanced the house to what it was worth when interest rates were down a seven years after we bought it. A few months after the refinancing, I knew it was time to get out. The house would not have brought one penny and he would have probably had to pay to sell it. He wanted me back, so I sat on the porch with him when he came over to talk me into staying with him. I told him I loved him and that I would marry him again in ten years if he wasn’t remarried. I then asked him why he would want to live in my small town around my family when he could live in a “cool” place in the city where he worked. I then offered to type up an agreement and have it notarized saying that if I sold the house within 3 years, he would get half the profit. Then, I hung onto my house with everything I have had. That was 18 years ago. I will have the house paid off in ten years or before by having a room mate. Spath @2.
As I have perused and written at this great website, I have written a lot about the spath room mate who has lived here twice now. As I have read more and more, I realize that my second husband is insane in some way. I am not sure what way. I don’t think he is a spath, but he will cross into abuse way too often for little or no reason and I think I am coming out of denial about that. I have been juggling two men somewhere on the spath spectrum. I had thought that, as I dealt with room mate spath 2, that my second husband was my real best friend. He’s not. He will do nice things and he will say nice things. But, if he is made unhappy or he is not allowed to tell me what and how to do things, his voice begins to rise. I get anxious and try to diffuse him and it is no use. He goes off like a boiling tea pot. He screams. He cusses. He calls names. He does not let me talk and he hangs up when HE is finished abusing. He is the evilgelical which makes it either more sad or more comical. He certainly can screech and come up with some ugly name calling for a man of Christ with a secret language.
When I divorced husband number 2, I offered his all of MY tax return minus the divorce fees. I met him in a parking lot and didn’t get out of my car. I passed the papers to him and the money. I had my divorce from him two weeks later. He had blackmailed me to get his tax information so I could do our joint taxes for the last time. I just kept being friends with him because I am sick and agoraphobic and have PTSD (from many things before, during and after him) and I could call him day or night in an emergency. I don’t have any money as I try to finish paying off this house. I felt I could juggle two spaths and I can’t. I just can’t.
The reason I am posting on this article is to let people know that they can be outsmarted to get your divorce. My sister had to end up using a DHS advocate to get her child support. No attorney. A free advocate I believe is available in every state. Just some ideas for people here to see if you can do your own paperwork, get the help from DHS, and get out without an attorney.
I left my husband two and a half years ago. And I have to say that the way my case was handled I would not recommend a woman to leave her abusive husband and I am in a profession that this is likely to happen. My husband WAS also clergy as well and he managed to play the charm card and won the magistrate and guardian ad litem over before they even had a chance to meet me. He got custody of our kids in huge part because the only police report was the one the day I left (I knew he would be fired and he was), and I lost the protective order. From then on I was told that I had kidnapped the kids by taking them to the shelter with me and I would never have custody or more than visitation.
My lawyer lied to me in the court house and told me that he had worked out a deal for me get the kids 51% of the time so a social service organization could help me get housing. A letter stating as much was sent to this agency. But my lawyer never filed anything in court. My lawyer “forgot” to tell me about a hearing, I heard about it from my ex, because a doctor’s appointment for our son had to be changed. The lawyers secretary knew nothing about the hearing and I got a call at 5pm on Friday to arrange my own witnesses for Monday morning. My lawyer demanded I pay another $1000 with less than 24 hours to go in order to represent me at a hearing. He tried to get me to sign a letter that was not on letter head, that did not list an amount owed or an end date again to represent me at a hearing (This the day after I was actually able to come up with the $1000). He messed up the witness list at the main hearing and subpoenaed 10 people (the wrong people) and then subpoenaed the right two. 11 people showed up and he interviewed them all which made the magistrate mad. He actually walked out of the court room once after the magistrates opening statement and went to another trial, until the magistrate called him and demanded he come back. He misfiled the final divorce decree and it did not get signed for 4 months. And then only after I called my old legal advocate from the shelter I had been at and she got the mess straightened out. He filed two motions dismiss, even after the first time he was told it was too late in the case to do so. The second motion was accepted and then overturned when the new judge realized the old magistrate had rejected his first motion. I have many other instances I could lift up about this lawyer who was supposed to be representing me!!!
The guardian ad litem point blank told me I “Must like living in the shelter and was not trying hard enough to get out”. This was on the day I started a full time job, six weeks after I left. He also would not allow my children to visit me at the shelter, not even for day visits.
The magistrate even put in the divorce decree that I had made a “very poor decision” in leaving my husband. He was fired part way through our case, I do not know why. A retired judge from another county was put in charge of our case.
My ex’s lawyer called me an “unfit” mother and my lawyer did nothing to refute him.
The court mandated counselor point blank told my youngest she did not believe her when she told her that her dad hit her. When apparently my husband admitted spanking her, at the next session she told her she believed he had spanked her, but she never wanted to hear the word hit again. She was also fired, and I do not know why.
When I had to turn the kids back over to their dad near the beginning of this whole mess,I was told that the exchange had to happen in the parking lot of the shelter we were staying at. And it DID happen there! In all fairness this was in part due to a snow storm, but I had been told even the police would not be told I was staying there. Much less the man I was hiding from!
The police forgot to take pictures of the bruises, so no pictures were taken until 5 days after I left.
My case is the ultimate example of how things are not supposed to happen. I have stumbled my way through. I love my ministry and I am also about to graduate from a program I have been in throughout this whole ordeal. I hope to use the training from this program to help others going through similar things. At this point I do not have the strength to even consider entering another relationship with another guy though and I have grown to very much distrust every aspect of the legal system in this country.
A friend of mine is from Uganda and she has told me that she thinks that women have more rights there than here from what she has experienced through my case.
Trust me through this whole mess I must have made 200 phone calls trying to find a new lawyer. I heard every excuse under the sun as to why no other lawyer would take my case. The most creative was “we are going out of business.” I have put together everything I need to turn my old lawyer into the supreme court of the state I live in. And I finally found a new lawyer two weeks ago!
I do have custody of my kids again. But only because my ex was homeless for several months. We have a court date pending at the moment with yet another motion for custody on his behalf. Two weeks ago his lawyer subpoenaed my church for any document related to me, even my pension. The subpoena was received on a Thursday and everything was due to his lawyer 4 days later. It was pure harassment. But the leaders of my church did not want to hire a lawyer, they did not feel like they needed drawn into my divorce at all. So everything was quickly put together and mailed off. I had a clear feeling if it happened again my ministry could be in peril. My ex seems to believe he should get the kids simply because he now has a job earning more than twice what I am. The courts are again buying his argument enough to consider the hearing, even though nothing has changed in my circumstances or that of the children. (AND he is in arrears with child support).
I continue to receive harassing emails from my ex constantly, where he calls me names and makes all sorts of legal threats towards me. Since I left he has threatened me with bodily harm and I even got him on a voice recording threatening to kill me (The police said it was a figure of speech and they could do nothing). Even this far out I keep bars on my downstairs windows and my doors at night. I lock my car constantly and am hyper vigilant outside.
I am very aware that he will never let me out of his sights, at least not for 9 more years when our youngest is 18.
RevJanice – Welcome to Lovefraud, although I am very sorry that you have to be here. What a horrific story. Yes, it sounds like you got the worst of everything in the legal system. I hope your new lawyer will do a better job. Perhaps you can file a grievance against the old lawyer – when you have the strength.
Do your best to take care of yourself. Believe in yourself – it will help you keep going.
Donna – Thank you so much for this open letter, and all your efforts on this site – I believe this site may have saved my life, at least part of my mind – I live in Utah, Male 37 years old… I feel hope for the first time in 16 years because your site – you understand completely! I just recently figured it out she was a socio… just months ago! After 1 years dealing with pure Hell. I married and have two young children with a socio female – its a total nightmare, already went to court once, I just couldnt get to the heart of the matter, it was so structured, and I am nervous and mousy around her evil and confidence – Im scared because people always believe her and look at me like a devil… she always somehow reaches people and lies to them about me before I even get a chance to show them who I am… they close off to me immediately and look at me like deadbeat Dad, even when I do so much more for them than she ever has… appearances are kept up so well and reality so hidden… but she did lie in court and got caught and allegations groundless so the mediator recommended counciling and I agreed and she refused, as she had refused it for the last 16 years. Just few days ago she sent me an e-mail (I went no contact about a year ago, its most effective thing I have done so far with dealing with her) asking for counciling for us or our children because ‘she is concerned our autistic son isnt being raised to his full potential, and not properly pushed to potty train as much as she feels is necessary (she abuses him, forces him to soil himself in hopes he will be humilliated enough to learn how to go on toilet – its disgusting of her, she is Satan incarnate) – my Son is a beautiful, sensitive, and yes autistic, 8 yr old boy… he and my 12 yr old daughter are my world.. and she is destroying me pshycologically piece by piece… she cheated on me with at least 5 men during our marriage and having xhildren and I didnt know till 8 years later, we have been separated for 6 years now – I was diagnosed with PTSD after she chearted on a violent boyfriend and landed my kids on restraining orders – I filed court papers for full custody, but they must have been the rwrong type, and only the divorce was completed… I just dont know whaere to go or who to turn to, I have no family, its just me alone, she destoryed all my social circle after I divorced her – Im trying to hang on, trying to save my children with only 50/50 custody… its near impossible… all I can say is thank you without your site I would be jumping off a bridge in hopelessness and pain and sorrow and guilt. Can you help me organize my thoughts? Can you help lead me to a person who can sort out my life and end this madness? I am so destroyed I can barely keep my job – my only goal is to save, feed and clothe my kids, give them shelter – and everything else, including me, I neglect severly – Im doing my absolute best, but I am slowly dieing… I want to save my children, I would give my life just to make them happy and protect them, I dont care about myself, only them… they are my only hope, they are my world, they are my job, its my job to protect them and I put them in a world of Hell. I need so much help. Thank you…
If you need help I have joined a blog on facebook called One Mom’s Battle. They also try to help men victims of sociopaths, mainly narcissists. They have different chapters in many states and the moderators of that website may be able to direct you to the correct help in your state, or at least ask for help from other members that live in your state. It is mainly a support group. Please join or ask for help. You sound very depressed, and I am worried because many victims of sociopaths may end up taking their life. It works against them and favors the sociopath from every angle but that’s what happens sometimes, so take care of yourself and ask for help. This support group, My Mom’s Battle helped me a lot.
Sorry, the correct name of the group, One Mom’s Battle
I agree with everyone elses comments. Sociopaths attract to law like flies to ****. Very few are in it because they are honest and want justice. The rest of them love the manipulation, lies and financial gain, it feeds them. My daughter want to be criminal lawyer and I told her to take care, because you dont know the client your representing. You have to be unfeeling and detached to your client. Its a job.
The truth be known…many lawyers are sociopaths. I was married to one. What other kind of person can have a career where winning is more important than justice. There are of course exceptions but the entire legal system is stacked against victims. That is what our so called justice system has become. People without ethics or morals are attracted to law school where they learn deception and schemes to avoid worries about ethics or morals and learn to focus on winning at any cost. They learn nothing about justice except that it is blind and they interpret that as meaning it doesn’t matter. It is not even the law that matters, it is winning the case to make themselves look good in their community of reprebates. The bar indeed, you will find more ethics, honesty and justice in a typical barroom. BTW, Donna, excellent article for those in the field who are real human beings.
It’s true what some people on here have said. Lawyers tend to be evil and it’s no surprise that many sociopaths can be found in that profession. As I am currently in the process of working with a lawyer regarding my run-in with a sociopath, I am learning that this lawyer is not on my side, only concerned about the money she is getting, and is a liar. I was lucky enough to know someone who works in mediation who is willing to help me with this case. My lawyer told me at first that we should be getting a lot of money from this case, and after just two emails and a phone call with the other side’s attorney, she gave up and tried to pressure me into taking a very small settlement. My advice to everyone is to either attempt mediation first before hiring a lawyer or to ask around and get reviews from friends before using a lawyer. As others have said, they charge you for every little thing they do, even calling you and leaving a message. It’s sad because people have been so traumatized already and the lawyer who is supposed to help them just hurts them even more.