The connection between love and politics—that was the topic of commentary in yesterday’s paper written by Gregory Rodriguez, a columnist for the Los Angeles Times. The article, Love and politics in a cynical age, got me thinking about the consistency of behavior.
Rodriguez summarized how Americans have come to view the private lives and public lives of the people we elect to represent us. He wrote:
The truth is that we don’t generally associate politics or politicians with happy marriages and deep romance, let alone fidelity. The constant revelation of scandals and peccadilloes in the halls of power have trained us to expect the worst of those—particularly the men—we elect to shepherd and protect the interests of society. Somewhere along the line, Americans have even bought into the notion that a politician’s private life, in particular his love life, has little or nothing to do with his efforts on behalf of the public good.
In other words, people seem to think that just because an elected official cheats on his spouse, it doesn’t mean we can’t trust him with our tax dollars.
Not everyone holds this view. Ross Perot, who ran for president in 1992, famously said that at his company, EDS, lying, cheating, stealing and adultery were all grounds for dismissal. If he were elected, he said, the same standard would apply. Perot said:
“If a man’s own wife cannot trust him, how can the American people?”
This, I think, is a legitimate question.
Different behavior
People often ask me if a sociopath will be “different” with a particular person. For example, can a sociopathic man who hates and harasses his ex-wife love his children? Can a sociopathic woman who takes advantage of her family be true to her new boyfriend?
The short answer is no. Exploitative people exploit anyone who has something that they want.
The long answer is that exploitative people may seem to authentically care for particular individuals, but it’s probably just part of an overall scheme of manipulation. The sociopath is just softening up the target, preparing for the right time to strike.
Here is one of the most dangerous thoughts we can ever have: “Well, yes, he (or she) treated that person badly, but he’ll never do that to me!”
Remember: The best indication of future behavior is past behavior. If you know that a person has behaved in a deceitful or exploitative way towards someone else, sooner or later, the person will behave that way towards you.
Compartmentalize
So why do we compartmentalize? Why do people seem to believe that how our elected officials conduct their private lives has nothing to do with how they conduct their public lives? Why is it that when we hear of a powerful person who has a solid marriage, we are surprised?
Maybe we’re beaten down. Maybe we’re totally disillusioned. After all, stories of deceit, betrayal and treachery have been around as long as humans have told stories. Maybe we hear of so many scandals—from cheating spouses to tax dollars wasted—that we simply expect the worst of people.
Perhaps public life has simply gotten too easy in America. It’s not like the Revolutionary War, when men risked their lives and fortunes to stand up to the British. No, politics today is all talk and no consequences. That makes it an excellent career choice for sociopaths—all they have to do is be charming, charismatic and deceitful.
Sociopaths, after all, want power, control and sex. By getting elected, they have access to everything they want.
Liu Xiaobo
That’s why it’s so refreshing to hear about people, in this day and age, fighting the good fight from a foundation of love.
In the article that I quoted in the beginning of this post, the author, Gregory Rodriguez, also wrote about Liu Xiaobo. Liu is the Chinese dissident who recently won the Nobel Peace Prize. He, of course, was viewed as a subversive criminal by the Chinese government, and was not allowed to go to Norway and accept the prize. Rodriguez explained how his absence was handled in Oslo:
Actress Liv Ullmann read aloud the statement Liu released last December as he was awaiting trial for “inciting subversion of state power.” At the top, he sermonized against hatred (“enmity can poison a nation’s spirit”), but his ending was an exquisite love letter to his wife, Liu Xia.
“I am sentenced to a visible prison,” he wrote, “while you are waiting in an invisible one. Your love is sunlight that transcends prison walls and bars, stroking every inch of my skin, warming my every cell, letting me maintain my inner calm, magnanimous and bright, so that every minute in prison is full of meaning. But my love for you is full of guilt and regret, sometimes heavy enough to hobble my steps. I am a hard stone in the wilderness, putting up with the pummeling of raging storms, and too cold for anyone to dare touch. But my love is hard, sharp, and can penetrate any obstacles. Even if I am crushed into powder, I will embrace you with the ashes.”
Rodriguez viewed Liu’s words to his wife as a sign of passion and commitment, and the bad behavior in the private lives of elected officials as the opposite. The point, Rodriguez wrote, is that love begins at home.
How people conduct their private lives is absolutely relevant to whether or not they should be elected. People who cannot be trusted by their most intimate loved ones cannot be trusted by anyone. And people who feel genuine love and compassion for their families can extend their love and compassion for the greater good.
petit… Well, he doesn’t know why he went “astray” before (6 times) ?? What’s that?
I feel that we are more concerned about YOU petite.
“Just telling you what he is thinking in his mind”.
No one knows what he is thinking in his mind. You don’t really even know this man.
Previous to meeting you he was a liar and a cheat, and now, all of a sudden
he’s honest? I just don’t believe it, sorry.
petite,
he knows more about you than you know about yourself.
maybe you need this lesson on destruction, to really see who you are.
I hope not.
Hi SC,
getting ready to say g’nite.
nice to see you.
Good to see you Skylar… and notcrzee!!
I’m signing off now too !
Sweet dreams everyone.
Petite,
EB is right and then some.
Who gives a shit about money, prestige or anything else? truthfully?
It’s not what is left behind.
I really respect your hard work, what you had to do to get where you are………but money doesn’t mean SHIAT to me, nor does prestige, because it doesn’t bring what is more important than any credentials this planet/world has to offer, which is simply love.
If all this bullshit about professionalism, credentials, being equivalent to you in this way? I worry. I worry A LOT…it’s important to you, as I can see, and you SHOULD be proud of it, but I’m tellin ya Petite, in the end, it doessn’t mean SHIT unless you have love.
NONE OF IT MEANS A THING WITHOUT LOVE………..
I hope you have enough LOVE for yourself and OTHERS not to believe this man’s crap and not putting your cards into your own professionalism as a cover for what you want to do.
I come from a family full of S/P/N’s and money, with social prestige, SO FUCKING WHAT?
I can HONESTLY tell yo uthat while that was admirable, NONE OF IT MEANT SHIT TO ME WITHOUT LOVE…………which I never got.
It seems to me you can balance the two. With this man, it will only accentuate your professionalism, AND HIS…but what good are YOU to anyone if you lose your HEART in giving your professional skills Petite? REALLY????
I’m truly curious, Petite, why do you do what you do and WHOM do you do it FOR???
Perhaps what he’s feeding off of, is that he KNOWS you’re professionalism in that he can DESTROY you in falsely building you up to distort what you are doing and what your motives were in the first place? Just throwing that out there……..
I LIVED with money/social/professional sucking P/N/S that worried more about their reputations and what they looked like to the world than their HEARTS that did nothing but create destruction with whatever they did and wherever they went…but GOD they looked good!! So in this I say SO-FUCKING- WHAT????
SO WHAT, Petite??? Personally with all the prestige my family had and wanted (and got) itwas nothing more than an ACT and they used others to UNDERSCORE their social/financial status. I* won’t lie, it worked like a charm!!
And I was the scapegoat because I called them out, as I always have. The most FAKE family ever….is this how you envision your future? I hope to God NOT!!
I can tell you that Spath father enjoyed his climb to the top, lived it for over forty yeras, even when he “retired” his services were still requested…. respected and loved by many, while he tore his second wife and children apart……..
is this what you want? Because this is what you will have for sure, chica!!!
I think WAY too much emphasis is placed upon our positions in society that puts one above the many……and makes it okay to hurt others………….well, kinda like your man now.
If you feel for the human race, remember why you got into what you did in the first place, you’ll be able to help others MORE!
What got you into this field, Petite? What was your motivation? Because if it was initiallly good, it won’t be anymore with this man…
I’m passionate about you not engaging this jerk.
But that’s up to you. I think he uses the professionalism to suck you in. Again, simple, “you and me against the world baby, because we are JUST THAT GOOD!”…I wonder, stepping out here, if he’s not speaking to the narcissism that you have, as well as we ALL have when we’re good at something…..
But if it doesn’t serve the better good, is exploitative in nature, hurtgs those we are close too……what is admirable about that, no matter what we do professionally?
I hope your choices reflect the reasons you got into your profession in the first place, not because he’s a straight up ASSHOLE and doesn’t give a rip if you have a heart about anything……….
It’s not about you and me against the world baby attitude……
When it comes to heart, WE are ALL vulnerable (except the disordered), and can fall prey to someone who is appealing to our sense of lower or even BETTER self…and yes, it happens…
This guy is sucking you, big time
I hope you make the right choice. One of the things that is so truly troubling is that you’re giving his word the benefit of the doubt while his wife and children (if he has any) are suffering immeasurably…and I bet if you spent five minutes with his ex…….you’d know the truth…
Stand UP, Petite. You do it in your professional life. Do it in your personal life too.
Sweet Dreams SC!
Good post Lesson.
Dear lessonlearned and all friends.
I became a doctor as I liked the profession and I came from a family of doctors where we did study hard but not to earn big bucks but just to be financially independent and have job satisfaction. I am not taking this S guy’s side and I am not sure if I am clear in my writing on this forum – we both, the S guy and me though mentally compatible as we are from the same training background and profession, we are not helping ech other to go up the ladder, we both have past that stage in our careers, we do not even discuss medicine much when we are together.
NO – prestige, money, credentials, status is not improtant to me, and I am not looking for that in him. Intellectual compatibility yes, but not money and status.
we both are kind of past the peak in our careers, actually bored in a way, as we have done what he had to or wanted to achieve in terms of clinical and academic work.
Yes, I agree with you, I am kind of getting brainwahsed with his crap and I do go back and forth in my mind, with his crap and what I read here from the survivors.
I did ask Oxy once if I should meet his to be ex-wife, but Oxy said it would not be worth it, as anyway we know what he is.
as some of you may have experienced – there is this pull-push stage, where one minute you know this should stop and then again next minute you go to the email to see if he has sent a message. I am getting stronger and getting the courage to pull out.
I think some readers here got confused and thought I got lured into the wealth, prestige stuff with him, not at all.
and YES Lesson, I agree – most important is just to have someone to love you, the CV and all academic achievements can go ito the dump, as long as at the end of the day, there is a companion who can do groceries with you, watch a TV movie and have dessert with you. I thought this S would have been the one, until I saw the red flags and then multiple spin cycles of goodness from him and my fear that he will do the same to me as he did to his wife.
please do not misunderstand me, I am trying, I am slow, but I am digesting it all. Yes, do scold me, I deserve it.
I fell once 3 years ago, Oxy saved me and I will stand up again this time with all your support.
thank you
petite.
Petite,
Whatever you do…. protect yourself by reserving for YOU and not giving up yourself 100%. Take it easy and take it slow, don’t fall for the falacies that we all have, WE have all paid dearly for that mistake. One question: If you are so successfull, why can’t you find a man in your own country? Is this a challenge to have an “american man” in your own country? You would think that men wherever you are would be falling at your feet!!! with your status!!!
Have you taken a real long look in the “self confidence” mirror lately??
On that note…. nighty night all!
HI soimtnotcrazee,
good question, yes even Oxy and others have asked me – why no guy in your own country. I got divorced several years ago and then I got glued to my work. grieved a long time, no, my ex husband was not a N or a P, was normal, however, not a doctor and with time we had lot of professional clash and differences in understanding each other. divorce was mutual. no kids. with time age caught up and I am now 48. all the nice guys are married,. the divorce rate here is very low, so there are not many divorcees around. Yes, some guys would want to spend time with me, but we just don’t click.
I was not looking for a guy, I am just a work and home type of girl, bring work at home on weekends etc. I am also not the kind who needs to havee a guy to make her life complete.
sure if there is a nice companion, it does make life more enjoyable.
I met S last year at a conference in a group of doctors and we clicked. I was not looking for a guy, nor was he, we just had some silly talk, laughed and joked and then we spoke on emails. 5 motnhs of emails and phone calls – we connected with each other. No, I was not looking for an “American” guy, I was not looking for a guy at all. No an “American guy”is not a challenge.
some co-incidence madeus meet each other. Actually we both had been going to the same meetings for last 5-6 years, but we had never met, what was it that night, that we spoke and he decided to send me emails.
thanks so much