The connection between love and politics—that was the topic of commentary in yesterday’s paper written by Gregory Rodriguez, a columnist for the Los Angeles Times. The article, Love and politics in a cynical age, got me thinking about the consistency of behavior.
Rodriguez summarized how Americans have come to view the private lives and public lives of the people we elect to represent us. He wrote:
The truth is that we don’t generally associate politics or politicians with happy marriages and deep romance, let alone fidelity. The constant revelation of scandals and peccadilloes in the halls of power have trained us to expect the worst of those—particularly the men—we elect to shepherd and protect the interests of society. Somewhere along the line, Americans have even bought into the notion that a politician’s private life, in particular his love life, has little or nothing to do with his efforts on behalf of the public good.
In other words, people seem to think that just because an elected official cheats on his spouse, it doesn’t mean we can’t trust him with our tax dollars.
Not everyone holds this view. Ross Perot, who ran for president in 1992, famously said that at his company, EDS, lying, cheating, stealing and adultery were all grounds for dismissal. If he were elected, he said, the same standard would apply. Perot said:
“If a man’s own wife cannot trust him, how can the American people?”
This, I think, is a legitimate question.
Different behavior
People often ask me if a sociopath will be “different” with a particular person. For example, can a sociopathic man who hates and harasses his ex-wife love his children? Can a sociopathic woman who takes advantage of her family be true to her new boyfriend?
The short answer is no. Exploitative people exploit anyone who has something that they want.
The long answer is that exploitative people may seem to authentically care for particular individuals, but it’s probably just part of an overall scheme of manipulation. The sociopath is just softening up the target, preparing for the right time to strike.
Here is one of the most dangerous thoughts we can ever have: “Well, yes, he (or she) treated that person badly, but he’ll never do that to me!”
Remember: The best indication of future behavior is past behavior. If you know that a person has behaved in a deceitful or exploitative way towards someone else, sooner or later, the person will behave that way towards you.
Compartmentalize
So why do we compartmentalize? Why do people seem to believe that how our elected officials conduct their private lives has nothing to do with how they conduct their public lives? Why is it that when we hear of a powerful person who has a solid marriage, we are surprised?
Maybe we’re beaten down. Maybe we’re totally disillusioned. After all, stories of deceit, betrayal and treachery have been around as long as humans have told stories. Maybe we hear of so many scandals—from cheating spouses to tax dollars wasted—that we simply expect the worst of people.
Perhaps public life has simply gotten too easy in America. It’s not like the Revolutionary War, when men risked their lives and fortunes to stand up to the British. No, politics today is all talk and no consequences. That makes it an excellent career choice for sociopaths—all they have to do is be charming, charismatic and deceitful.
Sociopaths, after all, want power, control and sex. By getting elected, they have access to everything they want.
Liu Xiaobo
That’s why it’s so refreshing to hear about people, in this day and age, fighting the good fight from a foundation of love.
In the article that I quoted in the beginning of this post, the author, Gregory Rodriguez, also wrote about Liu Xiaobo. Liu is the Chinese dissident who recently won the Nobel Peace Prize. He, of course, was viewed as a subversive criminal by the Chinese government, and was not allowed to go to Norway and accept the prize. Rodriguez explained how his absence was handled in Oslo:
Actress Liv Ullmann read aloud the statement Liu released last December as he was awaiting trial for “inciting subversion of state power.” At the top, he sermonized against hatred (“enmity can poison a nation’s spirit”), but his ending was an exquisite love letter to his wife, Liu Xia.
“I am sentenced to a visible prison,” he wrote, “while you are waiting in an invisible one. Your love is sunlight that transcends prison walls and bars, stroking every inch of my skin, warming my every cell, letting me maintain my inner calm, magnanimous and bright, so that every minute in prison is full of meaning. But my love for you is full of guilt and regret, sometimes heavy enough to hobble my steps. I am a hard stone in the wilderness, putting up with the pummeling of raging storms, and too cold for anyone to dare touch. But my love is hard, sharp, and can penetrate any obstacles. Even if I am crushed into powder, I will embrace you with the ashes.”
Rodriguez viewed Liu’s words to his wife as a sign of passion and commitment, and the bad behavior in the private lives of elected officials as the opposite. The point, Rodriguez wrote, is that love begins at home.
How people conduct their private lives is absolutely relevant to whether or not they should be elected. People who cannot be trusted by their most intimate loved ones cannot be trusted by anyone. And people who feel genuine love and compassion for their families can extend their love and compassion for the greater good.
Lesson,
I sure hope so!! That train wreck is horrible to even try and survive. Too bad unless you been there you just don’t get it until you have had your life, mind, body, soul and money robbed from you. It comes back to the way we were raised to think “good” of people!!! WHEW!!!! I hope she gets it!!! Being a Dr. , she should understand that she is looking at LF with many surviviors of a disease she has never seen before and she is being warned to not drink the water that will give her the disease also!!!!! Is she gonna drink the poisned Koolaid also?
Soimnotthecrazee1!
(((( Petite )))) Big Cyber hugs! I know this is hard, Chica. I’m not meaning to barrel you down with my hoofer boots here. But sometimes, outlining it IN DEPTH (of which I too need as I have an intellectual side that is stubborn and NEEDS “factual” answers to things), really sheds light on things. I don’t mind your questions at all and I’m happy to answer through my own experiences with Spath. Your situation is especially close to my heart because I’ve BEEN THERE and if I can HELP to assist ANYONE considering a relationship like this, it was well worth the trouble.
I understand all the stuff about the pain. Accepting what is happening.
To clarify your question: He’s teaching his children to disrespect his mother merely by observances of his BEHAVIOR towards her. A good father is not a man who cheats and then subsequently disrespects their mother with lies, excuses and justifications. That is a HOSTILE environment for a child and has NOTHING to do with LOVE!!! They too, are game pieces in his arsenal. Not a source of love flowing all over the place.
You’ve also worked hard to get where you are. Why give up a PENNY for a man who is honing in on you with what will SURELY be his financial messes to clean up?
Sounds like you’re really taking all of this to heart, as well as to mind. Something else I’ve realized, using the intellectual side of my stubborn brain!! Sometimes there just AREN”T answers to things we have questions about. A lot of this stuff is still mystifying in some respects and that’s when it’s time to LET GO of it. I could ponder this for a long time (and probably will study it further to become more educated and to help others if I can), but trying to ponder it while IN IT, is NOT going to help. It would only continue to destroy me. God has better plans for us both, for all of us, I think.
Petite, it’s not so late at night for me. LOL! I’m on the west coast USA and it’s only about ten thirty here. I think it’s safe to say that we are all here for you and I’m sure there are others that are on here that have different time frames for access here 24/7. HUGS!
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(((( Petite )))) Big Cyber hugs! I know this is hard, Chica. I’m not meaning to barrel you down with my hoofer boots here. But sometimes, outlining it IN DEPTH (of which I too need as I have an intellectual side that is stubborn and NEEDS “factual” answers to things), really sheds light on things. I don’t mind your questions at all and I’m happy to answer through my own experiences with Spath. Your situation is especially close to my heart because I’ve BEEN THERE and if I can HELP to assist ANYONE considering a relationship like this, it was well worth the trouble.
I understand all the stuff about the pain. Accepting what is happening.
To clarify your question: He’s teaching his children to disrespect his mother merely by observances of his BEHAVIOR towards her. A good father is not a man who cheats and then subsequently disrespects their mother with lies, excuses and justifications. That is a HOSTILE environment for a child and has NOTHING to do with LOVE!!! They too, are game pieces in his arsenal. Not a source of love flowing all over the place.
You’ve also worked hard to get where you are. Why give up a PENNY for a man who is honing in on you with what will SURELY be his financial messes to clean up?
Sounds like you’re really taking all of this to heart, as well as to mind. Something else I’ve realized, using the intellectual side of my stubborn brain!! Sometimes there just AREN”T answers to things we have questions about. A lot of this stuff is still mystifying in some respects and that’s when it’s time to LET GO of it. I could ponder this for a long time (and probably will study it further to become more educated and to help others if I can), but trying to ponder it while IN IT, is NOT going to help. It would only continue to destroy me. God has better plans for us both, for all of us, I think.
Petite, it’s not so late at night for me. LOL! I’m on the west coast USA and it’s only about ten thirty here. I think it’s safe to say that we are all here for you and I’m sure there are others that are on here that have different time frames for access here 24/7. HUGS!
S1, Well my GOD I hope not Chica!!!
I hear just what you’re saying, but ya know? I have a good feeling about her and what choices she will make. With Ox around anyway how could you NOT? lol!
Sorry about the duplicate post!! UGH!
thanks Lesson.
OK West Coast of USA, I have family there.
will explore that area to find you.
thanks for being so patient with me, I am trying so much. if he was in some other profession, it would so much easier, here we are in the same field, same area of clinical interest, and hence, I have to prepare myself to avoid clincial meetings for a while also. till my wounds heal.
fortunatley, I did not agree with him, he said from now we can let all in the professional community now that we are close etc etc and I said no. so at least no one knows, only me, having to take care of myself.
petite
Lesson,
Yep!!! Mystifying! It’s back to the buckets article. maybe she needs to read Dr’ R’s buckets article and find intillectually the bucket to put him in. As Dr. R replied to me the incomprehensible and inappropriate bucket! She needs a bucket!!! I can’t rememeber the article title. It was so good and gave me a place to put the WTF people in my life!
Petite!
GOOD GIRL!!!!!! You’re GETTING IT and that is FAB, CHICA!!
I live in Oregon. Beautiful state it is, now if we could just TURN OFF THE FAUCET HERE WITH ALL THIS RAIN, that’d be even BETTER!
I understand what you’re saying Petite. I think it is MORE THAN WISE that you decided that you did NOT want it announced in your professional community. VERY wise. It might have created a situation where he could have guilted you through some sort of obligation. If you have the blessing of distance, KEEP IT!!! I’d give ANYTHING if Spath didn’t live just ten minutes away or five minutes to work. He lurks in my community. UGH! That makes it SUPER hard!
That IS taking care of yourself, Chica! YOU GO GIRL! I’m super proud of you and I hope Ox is too! I think you may just recover from this a lot faster than some of us if you have your distance and time to heal and work on yourself some. And thank you LUCKY LUCKY stars that it didn’t go as far as mine did with my Spath. Trust me, Petite, you save yourself a TON of unnecessary grief and pain. You’re a smart, intelligent, KIND woman and you deserve the very best FOR YOU!!
I feel a kindred spirit here with you because of this experience. I just KNOW you’re going to be okay!! And that’s awesome possum!
Nite!
S1 LOL! The WTF Bucket! LOVE IT!!!
I’ll be pondering THAT one awhile. I think I know which article you’re referring too. I think I read it, but I’ve read so many, I’ll have to read it again!
Have a good one S1
nite chica!
Night Lesson!!!
Night Petite!
Sweet dreams to all in LF land
Petite,
you asked about my situation with my exP.
LOL, it is a nightmare. If I wrote a book and you read it, you would NEVER EVER GO NEAR A P.
He poisoned me for almost 25 years. small amounts of strychnine and botulism toxin (so he said). All the symptoms matched. my neck and shoulders screamed in pain and rigidity for years. I reseached and found magnesium, carnitne and cq10 helped resolve the problem, in the end I realized it was because they gave me diarhea and the poisons were excreted faster. There must have been other poisons because there were other symptoms. Always written off to some other problem, but since I left him, no more winter flu, no more pain, no more ulcers etcc…
You might think it was the stress? so did I, but when I left he emptied the refridgerator of all the food within 1 day and declared that it had all gone bad. (in one day?)
Then I remembered, the “tells”. He had said, “you would be so easy to poison, because you take so many vitamins” when in fact he was poisoning my FOOD, not the vitamins.
Also, he would never eat at home unless it was his “special” food he had bought for himself that he knew I wouldn’t eat. (because I was on a gluten free diet)
The sabotage of my life, car, house and friends continued non-stop from day one.
My frienemy, Kevin, took me to see, the opera, Madame Butterfly. Have you seen it. Kevin knew that my spath didn’t love me and he often “hinted” to me. But I never understood. You might ask, “how did Kevin know?” Because Kevin is a closet gay man. my best “friend” but the spath was able to bond with him, (probably thru sex) and convince him that they were alike. Kevin was more loyal to the spath than to me and I had been friends with Kevin for 5 or more years before the spath even met him.
I could go on and on. The spath put a trojan horse in my family to marry my sister. he works for homeland security now and my sister doesn’t believe that he plans to kill her. She is a spath too, so the loss is not so great.
How did I find out? I finally told the spath, NO MORE MONEY, IT’S ALL GONE. at the point he began to spin a tail of Homeland security is out to get him, and my BIL is the root of it. He forbade me to speak with my spath sister because she was involved too. She was being duped into hurting me and doesn’t know that she is prey too.
I finally realized the truth when he said that I should transfer our business into his name!!!
DING DING DING, we have a winner!
I literally visualized a bell ringing in front of my face. I knew that he was trying to get control of my finances. When I told my parents, they said, “oh we knew THAT, we overheard him say that he was only with you for your money, when you were 18 years old”
WTF????
My parents knew and didn’t say anything?
I believe they are spaths or N’s or something too.
They say they regret it, it’s hard to buy into it.
Anyway, if this story, plus Oxy’s story isn’t enough to convince you that a spath is BAD NEWS ALL AROUND, I don’t know what is.
and no, I didn’t know he had cheated on me until AFTER I left him and talked to his friends and they told me. Mostly they knew that he liked 12 year old american indian girls. but I also could tell that he liked young blonde men.
Sick sick sick, you don’t need this in your life petite, no one does. they are sadists.