The connection between love and politics—that was the topic of commentary in yesterday’s paper written by Gregory Rodriguez, a columnist for the Los Angeles Times. The article, Love and politics in a cynical age, got me thinking about the consistency of behavior.
Rodriguez summarized how Americans have come to view the private lives and public lives of the people we elect to represent us. He wrote:
The truth is that we don’t generally associate politics or politicians with happy marriages and deep romance, let alone fidelity. The constant revelation of scandals and peccadilloes in the halls of power have trained us to expect the worst of those—particularly the men—we elect to shepherd and protect the interests of society. Somewhere along the line, Americans have even bought into the notion that a politician’s private life, in particular his love life, has little or nothing to do with his efforts on behalf of the public good.
In other words, people seem to think that just because an elected official cheats on his spouse, it doesn’t mean we can’t trust him with our tax dollars.
Not everyone holds this view. Ross Perot, who ran for president in 1992, famously said that at his company, EDS, lying, cheating, stealing and adultery were all grounds for dismissal. If he were elected, he said, the same standard would apply. Perot said:
“If a man’s own wife cannot trust him, how can the American people?”
This, I think, is a legitimate question.
Different behavior
People often ask me if a sociopath will be “different” with a particular person. For example, can a sociopathic man who hates and harasses his ex-wife love his children? Can a sociopathic woman who takes advantage of her family be true to her new boyfriend?
The short answer is no. Exploitative people exploit anyone who has something that they want.
The long answer is that exploitative people may seem to authentically care for particular individuals, but it’s probably just part of an overall scheme of manipulation. The sociopath is just softening up the target, preparing for the right time to strike.
Here is one of the most dangerous thoughts we can ever have: “Well, yes, he (or she) treated that person badly, but he’ll never do that to me!”
Remember: The best indication of future behavior is past behavior. If you know that a person has behaved in a deceitful or exploitative way towards someone else, sooner or later, the person will behave that way towards you.
Compartmentalize
So why do we compartmentalize? Why do people seem to believe that how our elected officials conduct their private lives has nothing to do with how they conduct their public lives? Why is it that when we hear of a powerful person who has a solid marriage, we are surprised?
Maybe we’re beaten down. Maybe we’re totally disillusioned. After all, stories of deceit, betrayal and treachery have been around as long as humans have told stories. Maybe we hear of so many scandals—from cheating spouses to tax dollars wasted—that we simply expect the worst of people.
Perhaps public life has simply gotten too easy in America. It’s not like the Revolutionary War, when men risked their lives and fortunes to stand up to the British. No, politics today is all talk and no consequences. That makes it an excellent career choice for sociopaths—all they have to do is be charming, charismatic and deceitful.
Sociopaths, after all, want power, control and sex. By getting elected, they have access to everything they want.
Liu Xiaobo
That’s why it’s so refreshing to hear about people, in this day and age, fighting the good fight from a foundation of love.
In the article that I quoted in the beginning of this post, the author, Gregory Rodriguez, also wrote about Liu Xiaobo. Liu is the Chinese dissident who recently won the Nobel Peace Prize. He, of course, was viewed as a subversive criminal by the Chinese government, and was not allowed to go to Norway and accept the prize. Rodriguez explained how his absence was handled in Oslo:
Actress Liv Ullmann read aloud the statement Liu released last December as he was awaiting trial for “inciting subversion of state power.” At the top, he sermonized against hatred (“enmity can poison a nation’s spirit”), but his ending was an exquisite love letter to his wife, Liu Xia.
“I am sentenced to a visible prison,” he wrote, “while you are waiting in an invisible one. Your love is sunlight that transcends prison walls and bars, stroking every inch of my skin, warming my every cell, letting me maintain my inner calm, magnanimous and bright, so that every minute in prison is full of meaning. But my love for you is full of guilt and regret, sometimes heavy enough to hobble my steps. I am a hard stone in the wilderness, putting up with the pummeling of raging storms, and too cold for anyone to dare touch. But my love is hard, sharp, and can penetrate any obstacles. Even if I am crushed into powder, I will embrace you with the ashes.”
Rodriguez viewed Liu’s words to his wife as a sign of passion and commitment, and the bad behavior in the private lives of elected officials as the opposite. The point, Rodriguez wrote, is that love begins at home.
How people conduct their private lives is absolutely relevant to whether or not they should be elected. People who cannot be trusted by their most intimate loved ones cannot be trusted by anyone. And people who feel genuine love and compassion for their families can extend their love and compassion for the greater good.
Petite,
Your spath’s obligation is to take time for HIMSELF since his separation/divorce/lifechange, and to take honor himself (wrap it in integrity where to argue he’d have to degrade himself.)
His rushing you is just part of the bullying process. Typical of spaths. Whirlwind to confuse. You can be honest and set boundries. He won’t respect your boundries so once you claim your honor, you’ll need to go NC.
Just remember you are not obligated to continue with an incurable personality disorder.
And really, you should be telling him NOW, before the conference, so when you see him, you will have asserted yourself and you just continue to do so.
Petite,
I appear to be the average american woman, but I’m not.
I will not reveal my ethnic heritage here either, but it doesn’t matter too much since most people cannot guess what it is when they look at me.
Sometimes, when I tell a man my ethnicity, I will hear, “xxxx women are the MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMEN IN THE WORLD”
What a crock of shit. One time that came right after hearing racial slurs from the same man, until I revealed what I was. LOL.
The backtracking was comical.
My response to both the slurs and the “complement” was:
“Your opinion reflects on you, it does not reflect on me. That’s just YOUR opinion.”
You see, if I take his complement, I must also accept his ethnic slur.
It’s true that our heritage affects our upbringing and therefore also our way of thinking. Having been raised in the US, as a woman, you would think I’m less likely to allow a man to abuse me because American women stand up for themselves, right?
Wrong. Look at all the women on LF. Look what we put up with. We are no better and no different.
In afghanistan women are routinely beaten, but I was reading in the NYTimes about some personal stories of women. Some of them, if there are no male children in the family, will be raised as boys. Haircut, education, everything-the works- Until she reaches marrying age. Suddenly, on goes the Burka, and she (voila!) becomes a woman and gets married, (sometimes kicking and screaming). So, this one girl, gets married and one day her husband (same age) decides to smack her for whatever reason. But she was raised a boy, so she whallops him with a fist. HE NEVER HIT HER AGAIN, and they are best friends. Nice story huh?
People are the same everywhere. Bullys are the same everywhere.
Where is Oxy? I heard on the news this morning
that there was going to be some crappy weather
out her way today, or I think it was more north of her.
thanks Katy,
what if he says I have already given it a thought while I have been separated. as you know they are so clever with words. I did tell him last week, that after divorce, one needs quiet time to themselves until they know what they want in life and what changes they must make.
— where to argue he’d have to degrade himslef – meaning that if he argues with me when I say that he should honor himslef, he is degrading himself.
he did tell me once that he is trying hard, but he is not perfect. I said we all are imperfect, but we try and don’t hurt others.
petitie
SC, Katy
Don’t feel left out!!
think the women here at LF should all get mail order grooms/fiance’s and trade them if we don’t like them!!! Just the way American men treat foriegn women! HMMMM LOLOLOL! Happy New Year!!!
Soimaybecrazeetonight!! LOLOL
HI SC
just spoke to Oxy on email, she is fine, infact she said the weather is just right for her to do some work on the farm tomorrow.
don’t worry, she is fine.
Happy New Year.
petitie
Where is EB? I hope she is OK!!
Thank God Oxy is OK!
Petite,
Whatever he says, don’t explain youself, just repeat, rinse, repeat, repeat, repeat.
The word is “NEVERTHELESS”. as in “Nevertheless, it’s best for me to step back and take time for myself. I hope you’ll honor my need and do the same for yourself.”
Don’t say goodbye or talk with you later. (implies a further conversation.)
Hey SOME of the LoveFraud members need to be reporting their good time to me tomorrow! Don’t ya’all know that I live vacariously through ya!
EB? Hopefully she left NO porridge and NO bed for papa bear and has gone tripping the light fandango with her bouncy hair.
Dear petite, I feel that you are over thinking this whole thing.
If you want to break your addiction to him, the point is to go no contact.
You don’t have to listen to his word salad anymore.
You don’t have to imagine every little scenario in your mind.
You don’t have to worry about what he is going to say.
Just cut him off. Kick him to the curb. It won’t even be a blip on his radar screen.
I think the advice you have been given here is to start
thinking about yourself and why you allowed such a immoral
creep into your life, we’re not really trying to think of something
to say everytime b/s comes out of his mouth.
Peeps are trying to get you to take a look at yourself,
but you keep turning it around to be about him,
I don’t even know if you realize you are doing this!
You are a sweet person, there is something about you
that he has decided he can take advantage of.
You’re too compassionate? You are lonely?
You are in love with his potential?
You think he is going to change for you. Whatever it is…
he knows, that’s the hook, he knows how to do it well,
he’s had plenty of experience doing this with other women.
Just go no contact… then you’ll start looking at yourself.
It’s not going to be easy, no one is saying that,
you might be thinking of him every minute of every day for months,
like you said, it’s like an addiction,
but now that you realize what he is (liar, cheater, womanizer, etc)
you won’t be able to get your “fix” from him anymore,
because it’s all a lie. :/ Sorry, I know it’s not pleasant to read.
Just writing what I have lived.
When I realized what he is/was
it’s like I hit a brick wall at 90mph.
The love bugs here at LF picked me up off the floor.