The connection between love and politics—that was the topic of commentary in yesterday’s paper written by Gregory Rodriguez, a columnist for the Los Angeles Times. The article, Love and politics in a cynical age, got me thinking about the consistency of behavior.
Rodriguez summarized how Americans have come to view the private lives and public lives of the people we elect to represent us. He wrote:
The truth is that we don’t generally associate politics or politicians with happy marriages and deep romance, let alone fidelity. The constant revelation of scandals and peccadilloes in the halls of power have trained us to expect the worst of those—particularly the men—we elect to shepherd and protect the interests of society. Somewhere along the line, Americans have even bought into the notion that a politician’s private life, in particular his love life, has little or nothing to do with his efforts on behalf of the public good.
In other words, people seem to think that just because an elected official cheats on his spouse, it doesn’t mean we can’t trust him with our tax dollars.
Not everyone holds this view. Ross Perot, who ran for president in 1992, famously said that at his company, EDS, lying, cheating, stealing and adultery were all grounds for dismissal. If he were elected, he said, the same standard would apply. Perot said:
“If a man’s own wife cannot trust him, how can the American people?”
This, I think, is a legitimate question.
Different behavior
People often ask me if a sociopath will be “different” with a particular person. For example, can a sociopathic man who hates and harasses his ex-wife love his children? Can a sociopathic woman who takes advantage of her family be true to her new boyfriend?
The short answer is no. Exploitative people exploit anyone who has something that they want.
The long answer is that exploitative people may seem to authentically care for particular individuals, but it’s probably just part of an overall scheme of manipulation. The sociopath is just softening up the target, preparing for the right time to strike.
Here is one of the most dangerous thoughts we can ever have: “Well, yes, he (or she) treated that person badly, but he’ll never do that to me!”
Remember: The best indication of future behavior is past behavior. If you know that a person has behaved in a deceitful or exploitative way towards someone else, sooner or later, the person will behave that way towards you.
Compartmentalize
So why do we compartmentalize? Why do people seem to believe that how our elected officials conduct their private lives has nothing to do with how they conduct their public lives? Why is it that when we hear of a powerful person who has a solid marriage, we are surprised?
Maybe we’re beaten down. Maybe we’re totally disillusioned. After all, stories of deceit, betrayal and treachery have been around as long as humans have told stories. Maybe we hear of so many scandals—from cheating spouses to tax dollars wasted—that we simply expect the worst of people.
Perhaps public life has simply gotten too easy in America. It’s not like the Revolutionary War, when men risked their lives and fortunes to stand up to the British. No, politics today is all talk and no consequences. That makes it an excellent career choice for sociopaths—all they have to do is be charming, charismatic and deceitful.
Sociopaths, after all, want power, control and sex. By getting elected, they have access to everything they want.
Liu Xiaobo
That’s why it’s so refreshing to hear about people, in this day and age, fighting the good fight from a foundation of love.
In the article that I quoted in the beginning of this post, the author, Gregory Rodriguez, also wrote about Liu Xiaobo. Liu is the Chinese dissident who recently won the Nobel Peace Prize. He, of course, was viewed as a subversive criminal by the Chinese government, and was not allowed to go to Norway and accept the prize. Rodriguez explained how his absence was handled in Oslo:
Actress Liv Ullmann read aloud the statement Liu released last December as he was awaiting trial for “inciting subversion of state power.” At the top, he sermonized against hatred (“enmity can poison a nation’s spirit”), but his ending was an exquisite love letter to his wife, Liu Xia.
“I am sentenced to a visible prison,” he wrote, “while you are waiting in an invisible one. Your love is sunlight that transcends prison walls and bars, stroking every inch of my skin, warming my every cell, letting me maintain my inner calm, magnanimous and bright, so that every minute in prison is full of meaning. But my love for you is full of guilt and regret, sometimes heavy enough to hobble my steps. I am a hard stone in the wilderness, putting up with the pummeling of raging storms, and too cold for anyone to dare touch. But my love is hard, sharp, and can penetrate any obstacles. Even if I am crushed into powder, I will embrace you with the ashes.”
Rodriguez viewed Liu’s words to his wife as a sign of passion and commitment, and the bad behavior in the private lives of elected officials as the opposite. The point, Rodriguez wrote, is that love begins at home.
How people conduct their private lives is absolutely relevant to whether or not they should be elected. People who cannot be trusted by their most intimate loved ones cannot be trusted by anyone. And people who feel genuine love and compassion for their families can extend their love and compassion for the greater good.
You guys amaze me with your compassion and widsom.
Lost, that is great advice to Petite. You are right, she DOES sound very much like you. But you are both waking up. Rather quickly actually. Even though your stories are completely different, you’re both in the same stage but moving up quickly.
Lesson, I’ve been reading your posts but haven’t responded because I can’t think of anything to add that hasn’t been said by others and much better than I could do. Guilt can be a good thing because it keeps us from harming others and therefore allows us to build stronger bonds within our community. But SHAME does the opposite. It is judgment on ourselves as unworthy. Shame is what drives the spath. He suppresses his own shame and slimes others with it. It is why he is DISCONNECTED from bonding with others. Your spath was aiming at your judgement of yourself when he chose you to have an extramarital affair. He wanted you to feel, not just guilty, but also ashamed.
REFUSE. We don’t have the ability to know what is in God’s plan when he allows the evil to “win”, but we can see the aftermath of some of it, and it isn’t all bad. Realize that legally he was married, but spiritually, he was not. Marriage is a union between 2 PEOPLE, NOT between a person and a 2-dimensional evil entity who broke his wedding vows WHILE he was uttering them. He lied when he promised to love her – since he can’t feel love. You saved his “wife” from another day with that soul-diminishing, parasite. You may have saved her life.
The only thing you have to feel guilty about is that you didn’t respect your own moral boundaries. You chose to do what YOU thought was immoral. Jesus said, “let he who is without sin, throw the first rock”, when the crowd was attempting to stone an adulterous woman to death. Then he said to her, “go in PEACE and sin no more”
Peace sister.
Skylar,
Sorry but I never felt saved by the other woman. No OW diminishes the suffering endured by the wife. Instead I was fighting INCREASED abuse, HIS AND HER immorality, which didn’t merely double, it was exponential. The OW didn’t shorten my marriage, in fact she lengthened it. I would walk away from HIM, but not walk away so the OW could have the fruits of all my labor and suffering… (the goodies that Petite talks about? Those came from the wife; she’s the one he copied his goodness from.)
Sky,
I have heard that said to me more than once here and it dissolves me to tears each time it is spoken to me “You may have saved her life”…so many times, while he was married to her, he would speak with contempt of her anger and depression. She would go to bed for days and days….was on medication. ONe time, he brought me a shirt of his that she had cut up with a pair of scissors. Of course I fell for his bullshit about what a psycho she was, but what I didn’t see were the reasons she did those things. I didn’t see until I began to react the same way to him. In hysterics three quarters of the time. One time, he told me about when she pulled a butcher knife out of a kitchen drawer and threatened to kill herself. With pride he said, “Do it…we’d all be better off!”…..unspeakable cruelty and meanness….all the while pretending to be the victim in all of it. She went through SO much, all that pain and anger, while he exploited the pain he was causing to make himself the victim.
Sky, I hadn’t thought of it the way you described shame. Is that what one would refer to as an active projection? a projection in action? To carry HIS shame? I’m not sure I’m understanding that.
I do have guilt. Lots of it. But I DO have shame too. But I also think that comes from a different level that I’ve yet to address. As a child, I was shamed constantly. It’s familiar.
That is true Sky. I chose to do what I thought was immoral. And I tried to justify it through his victimizations of the marriage. That is truth. **sigh**…UGH!!
Hard lessons to learn…I appreciate everyone’s kindness and input. It seems that with each voice, there is some new perspective and something more to consider….thank you everyone
Katy,
Is it at allpossible that your ex’s OW is a spath herself?
LL
I always thought all of my husband’s minions were spaths of some degree. Birds of a feather…little nest of vampires. (btw…not my ex, he is my husband.)
Lesson learned,
It IS HARD WORK. and there isn’t any way that anyone else can do it for you, or shorten the time.
I’m not sure if you had your child with natural child birth or a c section or what but it is like that, YOU HAVE TO PUSH THROUGH THE PAIN YOURSELF. There is no “c-section” and no anesthesia for pain control, it is AH LA NATURALE! FEEL that pain, experience it, and PUSH THROUGH IT. You may want to rush the process, we all do, but it sint’ someting that you can rush through.
It is like you are surrounded by a ring of fire and the ONLY WAY OUT IS TO RUN THROUGH IT to the other side. You are going to get burned, but you can’t survive if you don’t do something that at the time appears too painful to consider (NC) but it is all that will save you.
I’m glad you had the good sense to come here last night when you had your “melt down”—this is a good place, to read or post or both! If no one is up to post back, just keep on reading! There is an answer to just about any question you can think of in one article or another!
I’m glad you are in school, so concentrate on that and work hard in your courses, it will help you to focus on positive things.
Katy,
I’m just glad that you are safe from him. These creatures have no limits to what they will do to create pain and suffering. We all have limits to what we can take, but they don’t, they feel nothing.
Ask yourself, what would you have put up with if there had been no OW? Was this his only flaw? How about the fact that he lied about being a normal human being? If his womanizing led to your ability to see that he is a spath, then it led to your salvation. I’m so sorry that it also gave you cancer – that is cruel and injust.
But I want to tell you a story about my uncle the spath that gave his wife lymphoma. How? by womanizing. he had affairs at their place of work in front of everyone. Everyone knew except her for a long while. It mortified her, she was a very proud woman. It ate her up inside. And he never stopped, even while she was dying of cancer. It was like Elizabeth Edwards’ story, but more middle class. She could not leave him for financial reasons and also because our families are all devout catholics. There was only one way out – death by cancer. Dying was easier than living anymore. In my case, I actually begged God to take me in my sleep each night, for several years. One night I dreamed of my aunt and she told me that she was happy.
All spaths cause death, just in different ways. They feed on drama and a normal person’s immune system is lowered by the stress of constant drama. Cancer is sometimes the result.. Autoimmune problems, chronic fatigue, suicide, accidents, alcoholism, Rx abuse. Getting away from them is a God send, so whatever God sends to help toward that end, I’m grateful.
ALSO Lesson Learned…
Remember you are accountable for only you, NOT HIM. You are NOT to blame for whe HE DID. I have NEVER blamed the OW for what my husband did but I did hold her accountable for her immoral choices.
Blame/accountable are two different concepts.
LL,
I read the book, “why is it always about you? the seven deadly sins of narcissim” by sandy hotckiss. Excellent book that describes the roots of shame and envy in narcissists.
Every bad thing you end up feeling after an encounter with a spath is called “slime”. You feel like taking a bath. They slime you with all the stuff they don’t want to feel themselves. It is part of the scapegoating process. In ancient times a goat would be selected to take on the sins of the community, so they would not have to feel the guilt. That is what spaths do.
Skylar,
Womanizing is not what showed me his sociopathy.
It just meant I had a battle on two fronts, not one. And one was hard enough.