The connection between love and politics—that was the topic of commentary in yesterday’s paper written by Gregory Rodriguez, a columnist for the Los Angeles Times. The article, Love and politics in a cynical age, got me thinking about the consistency of behavior.
Rodriguez summarized how Americans have come to view the private lives and public lives of the people we elect to represent us. He wrote:
The truth is that we don’t generally associate politics or politicians with happy marriages and deep romance, let alone fidelity. The constant revelation of scandals and peccadilloes in the halls of power have trained us to expect the worst of those—particularly the men—we elect to shepherd and protect the interests of society. Somewhere along the line, Americans have even bought into the notion that a politician’s private life, in particular his love life, has little or nothing to do with his efforts on behalf of the public good.
In other words, people seem to think that just because an elected official cheats on his spouse, it doesn’t mean we can’t trust him with our tax dollars.
Not everyone holds this view. Ross Perot, who ran for president in 1992, famously said that at his company, EDS, lying, cheating, stealing and adultery were all grounds for dismissal. If he were elected, he said, the same standard would apply. Perot said:
“If a man’s own wife cannot trust him, how can the American people?”
This, I think, is a legitimate question.
Different behavior
People often ask me if a sociopath will be “different” with a particular person. For example, can a sociopathic man who hates and harasses his ex-wife love his children? Can a sociopathic woman who takes advantage of her family be true to her new boyfriend?
The short answer is no. Exploitative people exploit anyone who has something that they want.
The long answer is that exploitative people may seem to authentically care for particular individuals, but it’s probably just part of an overall scheme of manipulation. The sociopath is just softening up the target, preparing for the right time to strike.
Here is one of the most dangerous thoughts we can ever have: “Well, yes, he (or she) treated that person badly, but he’ll never do that to me!”
Remember: The best indication of future behavior is past behavior. If you know that a person has behaved in a deceitful or exploitative way towards someone else, sooner or later, the person will behave that way towards you.
Compartmentalize
So why do we compartmentalize? Why do people seem to believe that how our elected officials conduct their private lives has nothing to do with how they conduct their public lives? Why is it that when we hear of a powerful person who has a solid marriage, we are surprised?
Maybe we’re beaten down. Maybe we’re totally disillusioned. After all, stories of deceit, betrayal and treachery have been around as long as humans have told stories. Maybe we hear of so many scandals—from cheating spouses to tax dollars wasted—that we simply expect the worst of people.
Perhaps public life has simply gotten too easy in America. It’s not like the Revolutionary War, when men risked their lives and fortunes to stand up to the British. No, politics today is all talk and no consequences. That makes it an excellent career choice for sociopaths—all they have to do is be charming, charismatic and deceitful.
Sociopaths, after all, want power, control and sex. By getting elected, they have access to everything they want.
Liu Xiaobo
That’s why it’s so refreshing to hear about people, in this day and age, fighting the good fight from a foundation of love.
In the article that I quoted in the beginning of this post, the author, Gregory Rodriguez, also wrote about Liu Xiaobo. Liu is the Chinese dissident who recently won the Nobel Peace Prize. He, of course, was viewed as a subversive criminal by the Chinese government, and was not allowed to go to Norway and accept the prize. Rodriguez explained how his absence was handled in Oslo:
Actress Liv Ullmann read aloud the statement Liu released last December as he was awaiting trial for “inciting subversion of state power.” At the top, he sermonized against hatred (“enmity can poison a nation’s spirit”), but his ending was an exquisite love letter to his wife, Liu Xia.
“I am sentenced to a visible prison,” he wrote, “while you are waiting in an invisible one. Your love is sunlight that transcends prison walls and bars, stroking every inch of my skin, warming my every cell, letting me maintain my inner calm, magnanimous and bright, so that every minute in prison is full of meaning. But my love for you is full of guilt and regret, sometimes heavy enough to hobble my steps. I am a hard stone in the wilderness, putting up with the pummeling of raging storms, and too cold for anyone to dare touch. But my love is hard, sharp, and can penetrate any obstacles. Even if I am crushed into powder, I will embrace you with the ashes.”
Rodriguez viewed Liu’s words to his wife as a sign of passion and commitment, and the bad behavior in the private lives of elected officials as the opposite. The point, Rodriguez wrote, is that love begins at home.
How people conduct their private lives is absolutely relevant to whether or not they should be elected. People who cannot be trusted by their most intimate loved ones cannot be trusted by anyone. And people who feel genuine love and compassion for their families can extend their love and compassion for the greater good.
Thanks Skylar,
i Feel like i am making NO improvements (not that i want to make this post all about me) but i still feel guilt, loneliness, worry and compassion for my spath. I even wonder if she is a spath. I wish someone can just PUT THE FACT IN MY SYSTEM about my spath. Its been 4 months, and i still wonder if i made the right decisions.
I have more to say about how this whole thing is turned to be more about me than my spath… but i will do that later from home! time to go home after a long day of work! Later guys!
I”ve read that already, Skylar. Was a good book, but others resonated with me a bit more, I think.
I like your explanation of “slime”. Reminds me of ghost busters lol! Yep,. I see that. All the blaming and projections were either what he himself was doing and accusing me/blaming me for it or it was projecting something he “felt” (rage, anger) onto me. POS. I gotta get some work done.
Thanks guys!
Skylar,
Great definition of slime!! I felt so filthy with that idiot!!
LL,
Hi Hun! Get to cracking those books open!!!
Katy,
what were you battleing FOR? What did you want to keep?
I’m not trying to argue, but I do want to understand your thoughts. It’s important for me as I study what the spaths do, how to recognize them and how we can protect ourselves.
Katy,
Being violated by a cheating man is such a hard thing to take. I know that was devestating for me. Such the “Mr. Nice guy persona, only to get to all the ladies!! Oh he is such the sweetheart!! OMG… make me puke!!! Sweetheart??? my arse!!! He wanted to get close and get a cleavage shot or see the impression of her thong under her skirt and go home and “pull his pudd” over it. And there are some insecure women that I call attention whores who intentionally dress like that just to get any males attention.
I rememeber yelling at him that he was a completely different person inside the house than he was outside. ” I told him who you are under this roof versus who you portray once you walk out that door are 2 different people. He told me I was the same way. which is BS… I have always been a … “what you see is what you get kind of person.”
soimnotthecrazee1!
Aussie,
I know you are sleeping and have a big day tomorrow and I don’t know if you will even see this post… but I want to thank you for your input about my new issue of the pleasant dreams. It almost made me want to call him. I know better than to do that. It was just such a pleasant dream instead of the nasty, mean, abusive idiot nightmares or the pit in my stomach but don’t remember dream. I am so trying to get past all this.
Thanks
NTCRZE!!
Hello LL, and others,
I just took a new job and can not use the computer during the day, so am just reading posts now. Thank you LL for the kind words.
I used to work in alcohol/ substance abuse prevention. We studied a lot about addiction/ process with the brain. It is not just a matter of will power. It is a matter of retraining/getting rid of the addiction in your brain.
There are people who have stopped drinking, but still have all the characteristics of an alcoholic. They are called dry drunks.
You brain gets “addicted”. That is why many alcoholics who stop drinking, take up smoking, or gambling. Your brain just substitutes- but still has the addiction “pathways”.
(I still need to get the betrayal bond book, to read more about this bonding/addiction).
The spath has conditioned us to never have firm understandings, or solid information. It is called shifting sands. Spaths excel in this, so that you are always unbalanced.
Let me explain further if I can. Research in gambling shows that there is a correlation on how often/much a machine pays out and how long someone will continue to gamble. It is a bell curve. Too few payouts, a person leaves the machine. Too many, the same because the person will not think it will pay out again. Somewhere at 35-45% is the optimal payout percentage to get a person to stay and continue gambling–it creates the “addiction”. Then slowly payout can be lowered. The research also showed that the brain of an addicted gambler is similar to a psychopath, in that they stay much longer than the normal joe, even when there is no payout (probably explains how a spath and the patient part).
I am thinking it is not just a matter us just staying strong. It is as Oxy, and others pointed out- AN ADDICTION in the brain.
Alcohol abusers backslide an average of seven times before kicking the habit. And it takes YEARS (as many as 10 years) to completely retrain the brain to get rid of the addiction.
Be kind to yourself, it is not always a matter of self will. That is why we all get the obsessive tendencies…the racing thoughts – picturing them having a loving relationship with someone else– it is your brain going through withdrawals. Perhaps you just have to find a new addiction- YOURSELF. And realize you have the control of your own happiness, but you have to stay away long enough for your brain to start healing and thinking sanely again.
MM
Missy,
Thanks! Love the addiction explanation! It DOES explain the obesssive tendencies too.
I’m LOVING my new online classes, but in particular, Psychology! A LOT of fun people in that class and the Instructor has a VERY high success rating with students. It’s stimulating ALREADY! I LOVE SCHOOL!!!
Missy, I just looked up at your post and noticed something I’d like to expound on with you. “Perhaps you just have to find a new addiction-YOURSELF.” Yep. Interesting that you should say that really.
So if I present a potential theory, please give feedback and let me know what you think.
In general, do we not ALL have addictions? The difference being some are good for us, while others are not, or at least perceived to be? For example, there are people addicted to exercise. Not a problem, right? Or is it? Some people are addicted to themselves, such as a spath(although I know what you meant for me here), not a problem right? Or IS IT? Some people are addicted to school. I’ve personally seen this. Not a problem, right? Or IS it? Do you see what I mean? I could throw out many examples I suppose, but ….just a few for thought sake.
The addictions I’ve had are BAD for me. There is NO doubt about that. But I DO take issue with you about to what extent is an addiction? I have discovered that my addiction to alcohol started with Spath and ENDED with spath. I realized it was a coping mechanism in dealing with HIM! In thinking about this further, everytime I was about to see Spath or was WITH spath, alcohol was the first thing introduced both in the brain and with a big glass of wine to start. One addiction feeding the other. The reality that I was SCARED that I was turning into a full blown alcoholic, was one of the FUNDAMENTAL reasons I began to extricate from the relationship. I see now that he used it, to not only alter my perceptions, my thinking, my inhibitions, BUT to DESTROY ME!! He KNEW this fear because I told him it frightened me and that I needed NOT to drink anymore. He would SAY he respected my decision NOT too, but that wasn’t TRUTH. He wanted to DESTROY ME AND MY EFFORTS AT INDEPENDENCE AND MAKING MY LIFE BETTER!!!
I decided that I didn’t want that in my life. I finally was beginning to mean more to me than he did. Little by little….
Thanks for your post missy. Really provokes thought for me!
We are all born addicts!!! Some— food, alcohol, sex, gambling, exercise, shopping, pets, pills,religions, nicotine, cleaniliness, etc…
We just need to have a balance of all in life and not let one thing take over our lives. Balance is the key!!
Petite,
I would like to meet you. I hope that someday that can happen. I wouldn’t make such a request if it were not for the reality (I’ve never met Ox either, but she’s super consistent here and I’ve been reading this site for awhile!), that you’re Ox’s friend.
I don’t know if you’d ever make it to the West Coast here.
Please ask Ox for my email. I’d be happy to exchange with you to help get you through this crisis and share more.
LL