The connection between love and politics—that was the topic of commentary in yesterday’s paper written by Gregory Rodriguez, a columnist for the Los Angeles Times. The article, Love and politics in a cynical age, got me thinking about the consistency of behavior.
Rodriguez summarized how Americans have come to view the private lives and public lives of the people we elect to represent us. He wrote:
The truth is that we don’t generally associate politics or politicians with happy marriages and deep romance, let alone fidelity. The constant revelation of scandals and peccadilloes in the halls of power have trained us to expect the worst of those—particularly the men—we elect to shepherd and protect the interests of society. Somewhere along the line, Americans have even bought into the notion that a politician’s private life, in particular his love life, has little or nothing to do with his efforts on behalf of the public good.
In other words, people seem to think that just because an elected official cheats on his spouse, it doesn’t mean we can’t trust him with our tax dollars.
Not everyone holds this view. Ross Perot, who ran for president in 1992, famously said that at his company, EDS, lying, cheating, stealing and adultery were all grounds for dismissal. If he were elected, he said, the same standard would apply. Perot said:
“If a man’s own wife cannot trust him, how can the American people?”
This, I think, is a legitimate question.
Different behavior
People often ask me if a sociopath will be “different” with a particular person. For example, can a sociopathic man who hates and harasses his ex-wife love his children? Can a sociopathic woman who takes advantage of her family be true to her new boyfriend?
The short answer is no. Exploitative people exploit anyone who has something that they want.
The long answer is that exploitative people may seem to authentically care for particular individuals, but it’s probably just part of an overall scheme of manipulation. The sociopath is just softening up the target, preparing for the right time to strike.
Here is one of the most dangerous thoughts we can ever have: “Well, yes, he (or she) treated that person badly, but he’ll never do that to me!”
Remember: The best indication of future behavior is past behavior. If you know that a person has behaved in a deceitful or exploitative way towards someone else, sooner or later, the person will behave that way towards you.
Compartmentalize
So why do we compartmentalize? Why do people seem to believe that how our elected officials conduct their private lives has nothing to do with how they conduct their public lives? Why is it that when we hear of a powerful person who has a solid marriage, we are surprised?
Maybe we’re beaten down. Maybe we’re totally disillusioned. After all, stories of deceit, betrayal and treachery have been around as long as humans have told stories. Maybe we hear of so many scandals—from cheating spouses to tax dollars wasted—that we simply expect the worst of people.
Perhaps public life has simply gotten too easy in America. It’s not like the Revolutionary War, when men risked their lives and fortunes to stand up to the British. No, politics today is all talk and no consequences. That makes it an excellent career choice for sociopaths—all they have to do is be charming, charismatic and deceitful.
Sociopaths, after all, want power, control and sex. By getting elected, they have access to everything they want.
Liu Xiaobo
That’s why it’s so refreshing to hear about people, in this day and age, fighting the good fight from a foundation of love.
In the article that I quoted in the beginning of this post, the author, Gregory Rodriguez, also wrote about Liu Xiaobo. Liu is the Chinese dissident who recently won the Nobel Peace Prize. He, of course, was viewed as a subversive criminal by the Chinese government, and was not allowed to go to Norway and accept the prize. Rodriguez explained how his absence was handled in Oslo:
Actress Liv Ullmann read aloud the statement Liu released last December as he was awaiting trial for “inciting subversion of state power.” At the top, he sermonized against hatred (“enmity can poison a nation’s spirit”), but his ending was an exquisite love letter to his wife, Liu Xia.
“I am sentenced to a visible prison,” he wrote, “while you are waiting in an invisible one. Your love is sunlight that transcends prison walls and bars, stroking every inch of my skin, warming my every cell, letting me maintain my inner calm, magnanimous and bright, so that every minute in prison is full of meaning. But my love for you is full of guilt and regret, sometimes heavy enough to hobble my steps. I am a hard stone in the wilderness, putting up with the pummeling of raging storms, and too cold for anyone to dare touch. But my love is hard, sharp, and can penetrate any obstacles. Even if I am crushed into powder, I will embrace you with the ashes.”
Rodriguez viewed Liu’s words to his wife as a sign of passion and commitment, and the bad behavior in the private lives of elected officials as the opposite. The point, Rodriguez wrote, is that love begins at home.
How people conduct their private lives is absolutely relevant to whether or not they should be elected. People who cannot be trusted by their most intimate loved ones cannot be trusted by anyone. And people who feel genuine love and compassion for their families can extend their love and compassion for the greater good.
Petite,
say whatever is right. Oxy is right about what to say. Since this is getting close and you have built a trusting relationship with Ox, (sorry ox, for puttin the pressure on ya chica!) in person, I think she is probably the MOST likely person to see you through this should you need assistance as it appears you do.
I sense a lot of high anxiety within in you Petite. I also sense that perhaps you’re still looking for someone to tell you that all of this is somehow “Okay” , but it’s not. It’s really not. By Okay, ……
Gosh I don’t know how to explain this without getting my proverbial butt kicked and I could be TOTALLY off base but..
Petite, I think you’re looking for someone to tell you how to read this man, even after all you know about him and what he’s about to do.
Yo’ure extremely intellligent. I know you know
This isn’t up to anyone else. I wish OX could be there as a life coach and in many ways she HAS been, Chica, but ultimately, whatever dynamics or whatever is going on, is up to you.
Petite, the only thing I can say, without a doubt, is that the pain you are guaranteed in the future with this man, will hurt you beyond hurt.
I don’t know that I CAN overcome petite. Are you seriously going to blow off how serious this is in what I say and what I’mj trying to tell you and let this man squirrel his little wormy way back into yoru life?
Please don’t tell me you’re going to do this. Sure wish you’d flown ms. ox to you as Chief of Staff and as your spokesman LOL
ok, so maybe not such a good visual, but it was fun while it lasted! 🙂
Petite, the depth of my depression, the pain it’s caused my family, my friends who do love me, …………..is immeasurable…
PLEASE Petite………
You don’t have to be where I’m at! young, vivacious beautiful in heart and smart in mind……
You will LOSE all of that if you stay engaged.
LL<
I can do it, I told OXy today on the phone – that I think I am ready, I will meditate ,stand still and when it is over – let him go.
see his puppy dog eyes and know they are lies.
all that he says to me. flatters me, is all bull shit. I will hear it only in that way.
LL – you said – imagine how his wife must be feeling right now, I agree, however, even after I let him go, he will continue his fantasy with another victim, if I had not entered his life, it would have been someone else, she will still feel the same, but I agree that at least I will not have the load on my chest that I was the cause. He had stopped bringing her to meetings since 2008, , (other colleagues told me and he had told them in 2008 about the divorce plan in 2010 after the kid went to college, I did not know him at all at that time)), I met him 2010, so it was not me – that made him behave badly towards her,
petite
Hi LL,
you said – Are you seriously going to blow off how serious this is in what I say and what I’mj trying to tell you and let this man squirrel his little wormy way back into yoru life?
the answer is – every word you say is correct, i told you, I feel your pain, I understand what you are trying to tell me, caution me, warn me of the misery.
I told Oxy today and now letting you know – that I have reached a stage – where I am not looking for anymore answers about him, in that will he change, will he be good to me, will he change for me, will my love change him.
NO. NO . NO.
I have got all those answers.
and Lesson – NO. NO. I can assure you that I will not let this man squirrel into my life.
after this Jan meeting – we had to planned to be together at a meeting in USA in April this year. I already send him a email last week telling him I will not be attending the meeting as I have to spend time with my Mom. he said he was sorry to hear about it and would like to meet me, I never replied.
I cancelled my flight bookings and will be going elsewhere at that time.
petite
Petite:
I am very frustrated with your negating and bargaining.
sorry Erin, if it came across that way.
I am trying, just as Lesson is, on the journey.
petite
Skylar,
A 4:04 minute video and you were able to conclude that this person is a sociopath and then publicly make that claim and invite others to see what a spath woman looks like. You then say “It’s only because of my research and constant study that I am able to spot the spaths in the wild.”
I would say that your observation says more about you than it does her. There is nothing in that video that even remotely comes close to suggesting she is somehow a psychopath. Actually for a 90ish year old woman who has not seen her son in 20 years and has watched him suffer through those years of drug and alcohol addictions, she sounds a lot like many other parents who have gone through the same ordeal with their children. Maybe you should consider how much the entire family often suffers as well; how much they see promises broken, hopes raised and then dashed; how after a certain point it is difficult to believe that anything will ever change because for years EVERY time it seems like it will, bam, it does not. And labeling every perceived bad behavior or injustice sociopathic is ludicrous.
I would hazard a guess and say that your comment “The woman is JUST LIKE MY MOM” sums up the problem really well. She reminds you of your mother and so, in a 4 minute interview, you project all this onto that person.
And to be even more blunt, doing this is no better than what you accuse them of doing. It is the exact same kind of judgmental and narcissistic overconfident behaviors that are seen in a lot of abusive people.
hi friends
something I read – to share with you
7 cardinal Rules of LIFE:
1. Make peace with your past so it wont screw up the present.
2. What other people think of you is none of your business.
3. Time heals almost everything, give time time!
4. Noone is incharge of your happiness except you.
5. Dont compare your life to others and dont judge them. you have no idea what their journey is all about.
6. STOP thinking too much, its alright not to know all the asnwers. They will come to you when you least expect it.
7. SMILE – you dont own all the problems in the world.
petite
Petite, I agree with EB. I see a lot of resistance and justification in your posts. I’m being blunt.
To be honest, I have been shaking my head trying to figure out why you are allowing this man to stay in your house during the conference. That right there tells me you aren’t taking any of this seriously. You are setting yourself up, putting yourself in a situation like this is nothing short of flirting with disaster. An alcoholic in the early stages of recovery doesn’t order a case of liqiour and store it away in his house, just in case company comes and he wants to be a good host. That is all pure BS.
I know you’ll have plenty of reasons, but I don’t buy it.
I know how addictions work, and how addicts think, and the BS they tell themselves so they can engage in their addictive behavior. You don’t go into a barbershop without expecting to get a hair-cut.
Also, with all due respect to Oxy, I disagree with what you should say to him. You are giving him WAY to much INFORMATION, and giving him a key into your emotions. You might as well be hanging a sign on your forhead that says, “Vulnerable. I’m easy pickin”s.” No. No is a complete sentence. Just say, “I’m not interested in a relationship with you.” Period.
You don’t owe him any explanation, and the more explaining you do the more vulnerable you appear. Not just appear, you will be more vulnerable, because you open yourself up to manipulation.
I really hope you reconsider and reneg on your invitation. For your own good.
And I hope you quit BSing yourself and realize what at stake.
Thanks Kim.
I am not doing this as a way to find an excuse for my addiction or addictive behaviour. By the time, I was convinced that he is a S and my gut feelings bothered me every minute, all the plans of staying at my place etc were in place.
Yes, I could still say no to him to stay at my place, I just don’t want it to become so ugly. we are in the same professional circle and it will be difficult for me.
I take your advice, to not give any explanation and expose myself to manipulation. The reason me and Oxy thought of the explanation is becoz he will ask – why, why not, what happened and Skylar – said it is common in USA to say – its just me, its not you and say a few words to that effect to end it.
your points taken KIm. I will try to keep it as NO, and not offer explanation.
thanks
petite
Petite, I rarely post but have read and followed your dilemma. As others have said, once you begin to explain yourself you give him an opening to prolong the entire exchange; one he most likely is going to take. As far as him staying at your home, he doesn’t have to do that. Could you call some hotels and see about reservations for him, see what’s available? I remember reading about the ‘broken record’—how we can repeat ourselves and use that as a tool to end communication. “I don’t think it’s a good idea for you to stay here. ___hotel has rooms available.” Him: “Why not, what happened?” You: “It’s not a good idea. ___hotel has rooms available.” Repeat.
You don’t have to be cruel about it, just matter of fact. I imagine he’ll be bewildered and want an explanation. You could repeat yourself. Eventually he will stop asking. End of exchange. Just an idea, Petite.