By Joyce Alexander, RNP (retired)
Most of you know I have spent a good portion of my life training animals of various kinds dogs for obedience and to work livestock, horses, donkeys and cattle (oxen).
When we train animals, we “condition” them to do X and they receive Y reward. Ivan Pavlov, a Russian physiologist, conditioned dogs to expect to be fed by ringing a bell every time they got fed. Eventually when a bell was rung, even though there was no food in sight, the animals expected to be fed, and their bodies reacted by making them “slobber” at the mouth, just as they would if food were present.
B.F. Skinner, and American psychologist, observed that animals who had intermittent rewards, rather than continual rewards, would continue a behavior longer than animals who got rewarded every time they did an act. For example, a rat that pushed a lever and got a grain of food every time, would quickly stop pushing it if the food didn’t com. But a rat that sometimes got a food pellet when he pushed the lever would continue to pound on the lever for a very long time, or even never stop pushing it, even though he did not get a food pellet.
In humans, this “intermittent” rewards works in a slot machine, or in gambling games, because every once in a while you get rewarded. Therefore, you keep hoping that next time will be THE TIME.
Psychopaths and intermittent rewards
You may ask what this training technique has to do with psychopaths. Well, just as Las Vegas was built on intermittent rewards for gamblers, relationships with psychopaths are built on the intermittent rewards they give us.
At the first part of the relationship, the psychopath “love bombs” us by giving us the good things we enjoy compliments, doing things for us, great sex. WOW! We think we have found nirvana. Just as a dog I am beginning to train gets a treat every time he “sits,” then only sometimes when he “sits,” the psychopath only gives us the “loving” some of the time. Also, just as I eventually no longer give the dog a food treat any time he “sits,” and the most he will get is a “good dog” verbal compliment, or a scolding if he doesn’t sit fast enough, the psychopath quits giving us treats and gives us “scoldings.”
We have been conditioned by the psychopath to be and do what they want, because we still desire that initial “love bombing,” and we dread the “scolding” they will give us if we don’t “jump” when they say “frog.” We keep on hoping against hope that we will be able to please them again. We do whatever we can to keep the scoldings to a minimum and get them to reward us with “love” again.
Running for bread
It doesn’t make any kind of difference if the animal we are training is a dog, a parrot, a donkey, an steer, a horse ”¦ the conditioning works the same. Intermittent rewards cause the desired behavior to continue. If we give continual rewards every time they perform the behavior, it wouldn’t take long for the behavior to be extinguished when we stopped rewarding it.
My mammoth jack donkeys, Fat Ass and Hairy Ass, haven’t had a piece of bread (their preferred treat) in a year or more. But any time I go to the hangar and open the freezer, they come running up to the fence on the never dying hope that I will get bread out of the freezer and give them a piece. They are totally “conditioned” to that treat, and they know that the opening and closing of the freezer is what always preceded them getting a slice of bread.
The psychopath we have had relationships with know what “rings our chimes,” what makes us happy and what makes us sad, or what makes us angry. It is like a panel of buttons on the front of our chest. They know just the exact words to say, or the thing to do, that will press our “buttons” and get the reaction they want from us.
No Contact is the answer
No Contact keeps those buttons covered. That is why it works.
Psychopaths know that in the past, if they pressed “button A,” you would do B. So they will keep on trying because IT ALWAYS WORKED IN THE PAST. They just know if they keep doing it, it will EVENTUALLY work again. So they will press it harder and faster and longer. Just like some old lady sitting at a slot machine, plugging in quarters, she just “knows” that the very next quarter will get her a reward. Just like my donkeys running up to the fence when I open the freezer, they still hope to get a slice of bread, a reward.
Expect when you go No Contact that the psychopath will up the ante and will work harder and longer to get a reaction. If it takes 30 times for them to eventually get a reaction, THEY LEARN THAT it takes 30 TIMES TO GET A REACTION. If next time it takes 40 times, they learn that they must work a bit harder to get a reaction, so they keep on and on and never stop.
So hang in there. Once you make up your mind to go NO CONTACT, then STAY no contact, because if you give them ANY reward of ANY kind, even a well deserved “cussing,” it is still a reward. It is ATTENTION, and even negative attention is attention. Not being noticed at all is the worst punishment they can have.
If you are required by law to have contact with them, like if you share children, do it only by e-mail, so that you have a record of it. Discuss ONLY the children. Do not respond to any nasty comments they make. Refuse to discuss the other person with your children, and Gray Rock them entirely. NO emotional responses at all. If possible, get someone else to pick up and drop off the kids, so you do not have to see him/her. Or do it in a public place, a police department parking lot if necessary.
We can stop them only by not responding. So when your ex is trying to push your buttons, just think about Joyce’s donkeys Fat Ass and Hairy Ass running up to the fence for a slice of bread. Visualize your psychopath with long ears, standing there trying to get a reaction from you, and then DON’T GIVE IT. Take control and refuse to allow the psychopath to make you respond to his/her button pushing!
God bless.
Donna, and, like ANY addiction, the action picks up where it WOULD have been had “No Contact” never been maintained, regardless of how long. Like an alcoholic who has not had a drink in 10 years and takes one drink, it doesn’t end there – the ADDICTION must catch up for the previous years that the person was in recovery.
Skylar: Thank you for that.
Donna: You are right!
I am going to go back to NO Contact. When I was doing that, I certainly DID feel like I was becoming free!
ToBeFree, good gosh, but you hadn’t even had time to work through your grief for your beloved husband that passed before this guy swooped in. Bless your heart!!!
I’d strongly urge you to consider some cousneling therapy or get involved with a grief support group. The last thing that you need is this kind of drama/trauma that keeps you reliving your feelings of loss and abandonment when your husband passed! (((((((HUGS))))))
Brightest and most comforting blessings
Tobefree,
I too lost my husband in a sudden and horrible accident which I witnessed….and was so vulnerable and 8 months after my husband’s death, this “friend” of 10 years who was now divorced swooped in and gave me the “love bomb” and I felt so FORTUNATE to find another man to cherish me…well, all he wanted was another respectable wife to cheat on.
So now I was “alone” and “lonely”….feeling old, fat, unloved, un lovable etc. but finally I have grieved for my husband and though I have not got a line of men out my door wanting to date me, I am CONTENT, and if I find a partner okay and if not okay. But I am CONTENT WITH ME and don’t have to have a partner to be complete. So I understand how vulnerable a widow is.
Truthspeak, I have thought about going to counseling. I have been though alot and probably need it. I appreciate all the encouragment!!!!
ToBeFree, for whatever reason, people are expected to “move on” when they lose a beloved spouse or partner, family member, friend, pet….grief is a long process.
Yeah – counseling or a grief support group. Just be wary of support groups ONLY because spaths troll those venues for targets, as well. It’s about YOUR recovery and filling that void with your Self – not another partner, just yet.
TOBEFREE, Call your local Hospice, if your husband didn’t have it it won’t matter they offer some FREE grief speciific counseling and it is very good.
Katy your welcome.
I’ve had many DUH moments and I’m still having them. 😉
We can get caught up in trying to make them understand when they could care less. That closure thing. When they will never care about what they did. Who they hurt. Because their whole lives are tied up in the illusion of the spath. The ends justifies the means.
They had an agenda and I CAN’T FIX THAT. AMEN
I wrote this on fixing it. Not about the spath but us.
http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2012/08/30/what-did-the-sociopath-give-me-and-why-is-it-so-hard-to-let-it-go/comment-page-3/#comment-169880
And on the DUH thing. Don’t be so hard on yourself. We can hear something a 100 times then on the 101 lighting strikes and it makes sense. Our state of mind the way it was presented all comes together.
The technique I gave the link for is how I stripped the feelings i. e. Meanings from events and destroyed beliefs.
Oxy
“if I just love him enough they will love me back” etc etc “ad nauseum” A tough one for some to see because we tend to do it backassward and say it means something about us in the category that we are deficient some how as individuals. This lack of reciprocation of love is a judgement on us. “IF”: we can be good enough, we can somehow do the right thing, say the right thing etc. But it come down to a belief/emotional trap that locks us in with no way out. That is until we see that this belief/emotional pattern is as you say “ad nauseum”
A=B Keeping things in context. So true.
Healing is the path inside.
Yes as long as we hold on to the spath relationship we can not move on. It has to become… Think back to the things in your life that are no more. They once where but we know they will never be again. We all have a few of them. When we think of these no more. There is no feelings to them. Like Junior High. We have a lot of memories some good, some not so good. But the understanding that we will never be in Junior High again. That thought has no feelings. There is nothing past that though on the subject. It may be something else but that ending is what we are looking for. It WAS. But it no longer IS.
Sorry the parole got you side tracked. But even gladder that you’ve worked through it. Sounds like your in a good place NOW. Everything you wrote is fantastic.
Beliefs are magical. They are effecting us but we seldom aware of them. What we have is the feelings that are hooked to the beliefs. We form a belief and and emotional state is add to it. When the belief is in play, we feel the emotional state. There is no debate about the validity of the belief. Just the immediate flash of the emotion. And we say stuff like I feel this or that. The belief is seldom even thought of. Change the belief and the emotional state changes. Which means we will now feel different. Beliefs run in the background of our minds. The feelings are evidence of the belief.
Once we form a belief it will be true for us always. Even when we first see that the belief is wrong. The one that is in us and is at play will still be true and will continue so long as it is part of our belief system. That is why many have trouble with still being in love with the spath. Even though they know he will never love them. Even thought they know on an intellectual level that the spath is destructive to them. The belief is still installed and the feeling that correspond to it will fire off and we will feel this in love. How, why or any evidence to the contrary, that it is there is all that matters to the brain. And as Donna pointed out it is an addiction….
In love is an addiction. Add the trauma to it and it becomes a more powerful addiction. But the problem is it is part of us and will effect us.
Most of the beliefs we have where formed not on a conscience level but on an unconscious level as well as the corresponding emotion that is added to it. The belief that one is “less then” will have an emotion attached. And it will feel yucky. The feeling yucky will always be with us as long as the belief of “I’m less then” exist within us. Once the belief is gone of “I”m less then” the ability to feel yucky still exist within us just no belief for it to play off of.
There is a vast difference between a belief that is in us and at play as opposed to something we just grasp intellectually. Even though we may believe something on the intellectual level it is not one of our beliefs until it is installed into our belief system. As in the “in love loop” it was installed and as long as it is installed it will effect us. Anyone that has fallen in love knows the feeling. When they fell out of love they didn’t loose this ability to feel in love just that the belief that they were in love with this person changed. And therefore no belief to have the in love hooked to so no feeling in love to effect us. That is until the belief is once again created.
To sum up we create a belief and tag an emotion to it. When the belief is triggered the feeling that is part of this belief is what we will feel. If the belief has bad feelings hooked to it when triggered we will feel bad. The feeling supports the belief. But since we are unaware of the belief we think we a just running off of feelings.
spoon
Spoon, I agree very much with what you said above….our CORE BELIEF SYSTEM is implanted in us as children by the adults in our lives, how they treat us, and how we respond emotionally to how we are treated. In terms of “transactional analysis” the “PARENT” (which can include other adults) inside each of us has two side, the “nurturing” and the “critical”—-we accept these beliefs as part of what is “true” and use them unconsciously without thinking about them…some as simple as “brush your teeth before you go to bed” and we accept that as a TRUTH that we MUST conform to.
Other “truths” we may accept are that ALL boys are smarter than girls, or all _______ people (fill in a racial or ethnic group) are dumb/bad/mean. When we become adults and we see that NOT all ______ People are dumb, bad or mean, we may examine that Parental “truth” and decide it is NOT true, or we may continue to use it as a basis for our treatment of _____ people without examining WHY we don’t like ____people.
One “truth” that seems to be almost universal in school teaching is that “there is good in everyone” and “it takes two to fight” and neither of those statements is true, yet our schools keep on teaching these as “truths.”
Of course there are many other precepts and beliefs that we learn and accept as “truth” without even stopping to examine why we think those things, or examining if they might fit the facts or not.
In our dysfunctional relationships with psychopaths which lasted some period of time, we operated on some level with a BELIEF that didn’t square with reality….maybe it was “if I love him enough, if I’m good enough to him, he will quit being mean and love me back.”
But when we examine that erroneous belief, then we can GROW by discarding it and making a change in our belief system.
Spoon,
beliefs and feelings are much more complicated than that.
VS Ramachandran is a neurologist who has done a lot of investigation with people who have brain damage.
There are so many you tube videos of his talks that I can’t find the one I was looking for. In that video, a man with brain damage to the part where he feels emotions, doesn’t believe that his parents are actually his parents because when he looks at them he feels nothing. Therefore, he believes they are impostors who look EXACTLY like his parents. But if they call him on the phone, their voices DO trigger the feelings and he does believe that it’s them. So in this case, it is feelings which trigger beliefs.
Beliefs and feelings are intricately tied together and our senses, sight, sound, smell and touch are also tied to that system.
I couldn’t find that youtube, but I found another short one, about beliefs, that is even more fascinating. He said that it’s possible for the right brain to believe in God and the left brain to be an atheist!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFJPtVRlI64
Edit:
oh here is the one I was looking for. It’s called the Capgras Delusion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqBGzkz1oDU