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Rapist demands visitation rights

A 14-year-old girl was raped by a 20-year-old man. She became pregnant and kept the child. Now that he is ordered to pay child support, he is demanding visitation.

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I think this HORRIBLE SITUATION shows just how our legal system is OUT OF WHACK with good sense and reality.

I hope that this situation can be resolved in such a way that this woman and her child can be protected from this MONSTER.

There is no end of evil that the psychopathic entitled mind can come up with and I think this is at the TOP OF THE LIST.

The solution here is simple. this man needs to be registered as a sex offender and a pedophile. He needs to wear an ankle bracelet and be prevented from having any contact with minors. Including his own children.

I spent the better part of last night angry about this case. I also had the feeling of complete hopelessness. This case really disturbs me because if the court is even considering giving this man rights to this little girl…there is no hope for any of us trying to fight these people in Family Court.

My ex also sexually assaulted someone. In that case, however, it was similar in that the justice system just let him walk about it seemed too hard to prove. He said it was consensual and since he didn’t jump out of a bush and rape someone he didn’t know…he walked.

I am sick of this crap! This man should be in jail. Period. 16 years of probation? WTH?!?! What about the teen he raped? The courts basically said to her, “oh well…you shouldn’t have been around this rapist to allow yourself to be raped and become pregnant.”

I don’t know what else to say but that I am ashamed of our justice system. Just down right ashamed…

Amazing…..Lawyers will take any case for the money…

At any rate: My view:

Number One: The rapist has no rights. He violated her rights so he has none. He lost “rights” when he committed a crime..

Number Two: She became an “unwilling sperm recipient” therefore never agreed to the sperm donation therefore sperm donor has no rights.

Number Three: Rapist can rape again and rape child. Therefore no rights to victim.

Number Four: He is a sperm donor through violence therefore cannot be considered to be a contact for his biological child.

Number Five: So IF Richard Ramirez had raped one of the women before he killed her friend, he could have had rights to the child if she became pregnant and produce an offspring? No court would have granted him “rights”…..(Look up case if you don’t know who he is)……..will leave you cold…

Number Six: No court will give this rapist any rights. We have too many organizations out there. It will never happen….

NOVA….National Organization for Victim Assistance—http://www.try-nova.org/

RAINN…Rape, Abuse, Incest National Network…..http://www.rainn.org/

To name two and there are Many more….But we need to not let this happen….We need to write letters and get involved ourselves….I will be writing one…

And by the way, child support is the way he helps pay for his crime. It doesn’t constitute or support a “right” to have access to his offspring…….anymore then robbing a home would give the criminal the right to visit the home. Absurd….It is part of his payback for his crime.

When one pays for their crimes, that is it. They pay…AND there is no payback for them…..RIGHT?

is shooting to kill to protect a child still considered self defense?

Yep, a THREAT TO LIFE or IMMEDIATE SAFETY of yourself or another is a reasonable cause to shoot someone.

Protecting PROPERTY is usually NOT a legitimate reason to shoot someone.

There are the “make my day” laws in some states though about what constitutes a THREAT so it varies from state to state.

A joke in my area is that “he just needed killin’ is a valid defense”—of course that is just a JOKE but you know, there are times that some folks DO “just need killin'”

I read somewhere in a book about psychopaths that the Inuit people would push someone off the ice who was a psychopath. Actually in some cultures that happens…but in the end, I think the RULE OF LAW is generally better than each man taking “justice” into his own hands, or groups of men taking “justice” into their own hands.

It is difficult to deal with psychopaths for sure…and they do not respect rules or laws, or the rights of anyone. None-the-less, I think that least we become LIKE THEM…we must adhere to the rules of society and the laws of society.

I will protect myself within the limits of the LAW.

EXACTLY. If we become like them, they win. It’s what they REALLY wanted in the first place. All the theatrics are just maneuvers to make us act like them, feel like them, be like them.

That’s what I like about my favorite band’s (Rush) new album, “Clockwork Angels”. It is all about spaths and there is a song about NC. It’s called, “Wish them well”.

Wishing them well as we turn away from them, is so important because that is what keeps us from becoming like them. That’s when we win for keeps.

as the victim of two spaths from 1977-1994, many things now known then were not.
i absolutely agree that evil seeks to also make us evil, which is it’s final “win”.
but to kill to protect a child is not, in my own upbringing/collective unconscious-evil. quite the opposite.
& i’m quite clear that i would, regardless of the law. but to clarify- if that child were in immediate physical danger.

With regard to physical violence against a spath, I want to make something perfectly clear from personal experience: regardless of the situation, the spath typically wins the legal argument.

In my case, I had an emotional breakdown that resulted in a physical attack against the exspath. The exspath did not make a single effort to push me away, get past me, stop me, or even defend himself. He simply stared at me without any demonstration of emotion – no fear, no anger, not one recognizable reaction. He was CALCULATING how my meltdown would best benefit him. The marriage was already over, but he had been going through the motions of pretending that he was “working to save” the marriage.

Oh, no…..taking personal action against a spath will result in catastrophe. Legal, criminal, financial, and emotional catastrophe.

Oddly enough, after the exspath left, the thought occurred to me that he could have easily poisoned me over a period of time, and nobody would have been the wiser. I mean, I was taking serious medications for my condition, and it wouldn’t have taken much to spike drink or food, and then claim that I was either distraught and ended my own life, OR that I had simply died as a result of my progressive illness. Given how detached he was during my outburst, I have no doubt that he had been trying to figure out how to end the marriage without losing everything that he coveted.

Brightest blessings

I have been lurking and reading and wow: some powerful stuff
being posted here on this link.

You know, not even MENTIONING the ugly things I COULD do
to x ppath….I could so easily become “IT’s” 3rd strike. So, so
easily, if I was a real witch. “IT” knows it. I sat here one day
and started to add up the ‘legal time line’, adding up all the
current and/or pending charges that COULD be counted….
Those are a whole lot of years. More years than he has.
I am sure that by now, he has added it all up and since I
won’t allow him to ‘make peace’, he just needs to stay
far away. FAR FAR AWAY from me.

I have proof of intent. Absolutely.
Does that make me want to PROTECT myself?
Um, yes.
Does that make the whole essence, or turned the whole
essence of our so called ‘friendship’, right, inside out?
You sure bet ya.

Although I shall and do intend to protect and defend
myself, physically, if the situation should present itself,
I am not interested, in the least, in mirroring “IT” and
all of that ugliness. It only makes me like “IT” if I react
the way “IT” wants me to. That validates them, you see?

I will NOT go out of my way to attempt extracting any
sort of ‘vengeance’, be it physically and/or legally.
The VOID and LACK of the ATTENTION is the most
HUGEST justification. It’s just finished; over.

I closed and locked the door and told “IT”
NEVER to make the mistake of coming here,
not ever, ever, again. NEVER. “IT” knows
all of the evidence I do have to back up my
attempted murder charges, but you know
GOOD FOR IT. I absolved (I did not say
forgive) it.

Pushed, right off a cliff, just like I was.
Not that it was recognized and/or appreciated
by the x ppath, at all – but, I will tell you what…

It felt really good to know that by extracting
MYSELF from the so called ‘relationship’, just
provided “IT” with some semblance of ‘feeling’
and ’emotion’ – it was THE ONLY THING TO DO.

Yes, they sure don’t like the hint of ‘legal action’
but then, again, they do use it for more attention.
For more ways to inflict themselves upon us.
It prolongs the torment of them being in our lives.

I just flat out ENDED it.
It took me SIX attempts at complete NC over the years,
HOWEVER, any person who leaves death threats on your
answering machine – those threats sure better make it
to the prosecutor’s office and/or police department!!!!!

NEVER take a threat against your life NOT seriously.
Always, always, always, take them seriously.

I have no inclination to physically/emotionally harm and/or maim him. I WANT TO BE LEFT ALONE NOW. It will eventually
go away, if I just stick to my guns and I have every intention
on doing so.

Oddly, in a very strange and perverse kind of way,
I do still wish him well. But, I will protect and defend
myself. I do NOT like the animal I uncovered….

Complete and total shock.

Like having a poisonous snake living in your home….
Not knowing where it is hiding but you know it’s in there,
somewhere – I have lived like that, fearing that snake,
for a long, long time. You never know when snakes will
strike….bite you; infect you with their venom.

Recently, I have come to terms and acceptance,
my once best friend turned ‘rabid’ and tried to
purposely snuff me. I would take that very
personally if I didn’t know he has tried to do
the same to others as well. It’s not ‘just me’.

I let it go – I have a life to get on with,
without the ugliness. This is my life, not “IT’s”
and I give it NOTHING: in court or otherwise,
unless I am forced into it. I am not shy of
doing what needs to be done. Trust me.

Special ‘thank you’ to skylar for your above post.
I can so relate to your words. Completely.
Your words touched me. xxoo

Find the disdain and change it to ‘wishing them well’
with their vile and disgusting lives. Pray they will
find some direction and actually ‘get a life’.

That makes us ‘bigger’ than them.
Not like them.

(sorry so long….)


Dupey, you’re amazing. Simply amazing.

And, threats of harm or death should always be reported and taken seriously. Yeah, people sometimes say things that they don’t mean – we all have. But, once we know what we’re dealing with, we know that there are no rules or constrictions in the World Of Spath.

Good to read you, Dupey.

Brightest blessings

Amazing, hm?

Amazing that I finally have “IT” figured out.
THAT is what is amazing! lol

Yes, threats SHOULD be taken seriously.
HOWEVER, I can see, from my own experience,
how easily it would be for someone to fall prey
to someone like this…

I have said before, it’s very shocking to realize that
someone you cared for so deeply and trusted and had
allowed so close to you, for so long, actually has always
harbored murderous thoughts towards you. Very shocking.

He would have ended up murdering me, as promised, and
also, I would have loved every moment into death. Oh yes,
I would have been drawn to it like a moth to a light…

That captivity inside my heart and mind.
VERY creepy and scarey that something so evil exists.

You are right, though: once we know what we are dealing with,
we know there are no rules or restrictions in the Spath World.
All we can do is realize the situation and deal with it accordingly.

PRIMARY IMPORTANCE: Don’t be duped into becoming harmed.
I would never had seen it coming unless I was paying attention.
There are times you must allow your head to over rule your heart, lest it take your very life from you.

Thanks, Truthspeak, for calling me ‘amazing’…
Just really tired of the crap, all the way around, on this.

Time to cut my hair; make over and find a new persona!
Hm? Time to cure those ugly nightmares once and for all.




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