When I think sociopath, I think this: as a pattern, he is willing, with awareness (hence, with intellect intact) to hurt people, or leave them feeling violated, in order to pursue hisĀ gratifications and interests which, for him, are always more important than the pain his pursuit of them inflicts on others.
Malice (as I’ve written about elsewhere) may or may not be a motive or factor. It’s true that for some sociopaths the gratifications they seek are predatory-based; for these sociopaths, the process of exploiting others becomes central in their violating behavior.
But this isn’t true for all sociopaths, many of whom are not driven, primarily, by a malicious or sadistic agenda.Ā
For many, if not all, sociopaths, the core motive driving their behavior is to satisfy a present impulse, desire, or felt need. But the problem with sociopathsāand surely one of their distinguishing, defining qualitiesāis the alarming indifference they bring to the collatoral damage they cause others, about which, at least intellectually, they have awareness.
This speaks, of course, to the sociopath’s deficient empathy and tendency to callousness. But again, the deficient empathy by itself isn’t so telling; more telling are the empathic deficits in connection with the pattern, and the sociopath’s intellectual comprehension, of his grossly violating behaviors.Ā
I stress that it is this confluence of the sociopath’s intellectual awareness of the damageĀ his pattern of violating behaviors causes others, coupled with his striking emotional indifference to his damage-causing behaviors, that seems to announce we are dealing with a peculiar personality called āsociopathic.ā
For the sociopath, interpersonal commitments can be maintained so long as they don’t interfere with the pursuit of his targeted present gratifications, or relief. But just as soon as the sociopath perceives a commitment or agreement to interfere with his present agenda, it becomes, for him, effectively null and void. The previous commitment and agreement are now utterly discardable and meaningless.
Whereas the nonsociopath would feel some shame, some uneasiness, to suddenly, unilaterally blow-off, and render nonbinding, a commitment he made to someone else, the sociopath feels relatively untroubled doing so. Why?
One reason is this: Whatever, in the sociopath’s mind, emerges as interfering with his present, immediate interest(s)ābe it previously accepted obligations, commitments, responsibilities, and, yes, relationshipsāthese become experienced, for the sociopath, as presently obstructive, and thereby antogonistic to his current agenda.
Therefore, he now feels the right, in effect, to protect himself against the assault of intrusions and unwelcome constraints to his agenda, whatever their source. He protects himself (and his interests) by, metaphorically, flipping his middle finger at these unwelcome disturbances to the pursuit of his immediate interests.
The sociopath feels entitled to do this! In his mind, things, or you, have gotten in his way. This makes him, in a sense, the victim, and you, or whatever now obstructs his agenda, his victimizer.
Yes, this is an extremely narcissistic position, and yes, the sociopath embodies narcissism in its most virulent form.
Let’s look at an arbitrary example: If you were to ask a sociopath, āHow could you have just, blatantly, without shame, left your āĖdate’ waiting at that restaurant, where you arranged to meet at 8 pm, and never showed up, and never even called to say you weren’t showing up,?ā here are some things he might say, versus what he might have really been thinking:
He might say, āYou are right. That was inexcusable. I should not have done that.ā (Reflecting his intellectual awareness of the social inappropriateness of his behavior.)
But he might be thinking, āI left her there because I had a chance to go out with that cashier I’d been scouting at the CVS for the last couple weeks; and I sure as hell wasn’t gonna let that opportunity pass. I wasn’t gonna let her (my date) stand in the way of my pursuing a better, more exciting opportunity.ā
Or, he might say, āYeah, I should have at least called. That would have been right.ā. (Reflecting his intact intellect)
But he might be thinking, āCalling her would have taken time out of my life at that moment, when I was concentrating on my present priority, which was to impress and seduce this cashier. I did not want to be hindered in my present agenda. I should never have to be hindered in my agenda, and anything, or anyone, that hinders me by introducing inconvenient expectations of me is obstructing me and antagonizing me. So if she was pissed off and hurt that I blew her off, too bad. She became a nuisance.ā
When the sociopath feels the need to rationalizeāand he is so narcissistic that he may not even feel the need to do soāthis is the kind of rationalizing he does. His present needs are always preeminent, and he feels little, if ever any, conflict about this. He is comfortable making, experiencing, his present needs as preeminent regardless of what this means to the needs, and expectations, of others around him.
In a split second he is willing, if necessary for his own, latest chance at gratification, to devalue and ignore his obligations to others.Ā And he does this from the sense that this is his most basic privilege; it makes absolute, comfortable sense to him.Ā Ā
(This article is copyrighted (c) 2010 by Steve Becker, LCSW. My use of male gender pronouns is for convenience’s sake and not to suggest that females aren’t capable of the behaviors and attitudes discussed.)
Yes, say a prayer for the cowgirl…..
I know that all us at LF love Leonard Cohen, & he wrote our song: The Ballad of the Runaway Mare….done by Jennifer Warrens & EmmyLou Harris as The Ballad of the Runaway Horse. No one has ever described loving a sociopath so well.
Say a prayer for the cowgirl her horse ran away
She’ll walk till she finds him her darlin’ her stray
But the river’s in flood and the roads are awash
And the bridges break up in the panic of loss.
And there’s nothin’ to follow nowhere to go
He’s gone like the summer gone like the snow
And the crickets are breaking her heart with their song
As the day caves in and the night is all wrong.
Did she dream it was he who went galloping past
And bent down the fern broke open the grass
And printed the mud with the well hammered shoe
That she nailed to his feet in the dreams of her youth.
And although he goes grazin’ a minute away
She tracks him all night she tracks him all day
And she’s blind to his presence except to compare
Her injury here with his punishment there.
Then at home on a branch on a high stream
A songbird sings out so suddenly
And the sun is warm and the soft winds ride
On a willow tree by the riverside.
Ah, the world is sweet and the world is wide
He’s there where the light and the darkness divide
And the steam’s comin’ off him he’s huge and he’s shy
And he steps on the moon when he paws at the sky.
And he comes to her hand but he’s not really tame
He longs to be lost she longs for the same
And he’ll bolt and he’ll plunge through the first open pass
To roll and to feed in the sweet mountain grass.
Or he’ll make a break for the high plateau
Where there’s nothing above and nothing below
It’s time for their burden the whip and the spur
Will she ride with him or will he ride with her.
So she binds herself to her galloping steed
And he binds himself to the woman in need
And there is no space just left and right
And there is no time but there is day and night.
Then she leans on his neck and whispers low
Whither thou goest I will go
And they turn as one and the head for the plain
No need for the whip oh no need for the rein.
Now the clasp of this union who fastens it tight
Who snaps it asunder the very next night
Some say it’s him some say it’s her
Some say love’s like smoke beyond all repair.
So my darlin’, my darlin’ just let it go by
That old silhouette on the great western sky
And I’ll pick out a tune and they’ll move right along
And they’re gone like smoke and they’re gone like this song.
….say a prayer for the cowgirl….
Callista,
You’ve asked the $64mil question! I just asked this same question of my friend (who’s a geriatric counselor at Kaiser) yesterday.
How many times in the last 4 yrs did I say to him, to anyone, with him present:
“It was so sad that you lost L to cancer & then your lab was busted & you had to go into flight, but if that hadn’t happened, we’d never have met.”
And
“J’s being in prison was the the worst 2 yrs of my life, but, had he not gone to prison, he’d still be in flight, & we’d be on the run, & would never have been able to achieve our dreams. And we were able to work out all our previous problems on the phone & by mail while he was in prison, so our love is now stronger than ever.”
WHAT was he thinking when I was saying those things???
When I now know that he was in heavy relationship with his now-wife within 3 months after he came home from prison, & that in his last letter to me he said, “I’ve known the girl I married for 21 yrs…..she is a loving & godly woman, contrary to you…..God’s timing prevails, & always will.”
WTF?? WTF?? WTF was he thinking when I’d say that God’s plan had been in place in OUR lives, & that His hand had brot us together forever???
Was he saying “you are a fool, oh yeah, poor little fool, uh huh”? Was he laffin his ass off? Getting an adrenalin rush knowing that he had me completely in the dark? Or maybe he was thinking, “I just know I have 2 birds in the bush & whichever comes thru first is God’s timing for me….get your inheritance quickly & it’s you, but if she gets her divorce first, it’s her.”
I’d love to be just one more fly in his brain, so I would know the answer!!
WhyMe,
It’s the same from the spaths everywhere. “I’ll leave if it will make you happy.” Many times spath would say this and I wish I would have taken him up on it. Instead I had to go through all the psych testing to see what the hell was wrong. Now I can’t get rid of him. He’s like the plague! It started when he got the infection in his privates. Now he has a cyst there and it gets too painful if he goes at it too long. Puts a damper on his masturbation addiction. Too bad.
Wrote me a letter about getting on his knees and praying that I would love him, take him back. I wish he would get a girlfriend. Everytime I get the courage to give him the boot and know that I will have to move, he freaking breaks down and begs. He said if I stay with him he won’t be depressed anymore. Pretty much cries everyday. Daughter won’t have anything to do with him and he cries about that. He brought it on.
They talk word salad. Circles of nonesense, while making it out fault. It’s never their fault, ever. It’s because we are such biatchs, why are we so evil? We must all be meanies, don’t know how ANYONE can stand us.
Good lord, so glad I don’t buy into it anymore. Skylar sure has them pegged too.
WhyMe
It sounds like you are so much better off without him! I bet even the flies in his brain are confused by all the disconnected wiring in there!
Adamsrib
Thanks for your response… I am still in contact with my ex because of our business together, but our conversations are kept to a minimum and the talk is mostly only about that.
He doesn’t try to ‘get me back’ and at first that of course bothered me, but now I can see that if he did I don’t know if I could ever trust him enough to believe him. I am understanding so much more about all the inconsistencies I experienced during our relationship thanks to LF.
The compatibility I have with my ex by any ‘normal’ person’s standard would have defined a perfect partner for me and I for him… unfortunately, his responses and actions aren’t ‘normal’ and I’m learning to let go of who I thought he was (who I think he tried to be but just couldn’t do it) I actually feel sorry for him because he isn’t a happy person and I do believe there was a time with me when he touched upon that, but just didn’t have the ability to maintain it. I still love him, but the person I love is buried deep beneath his disorder which rules his actions and won’t set him free to experience life without it.
I am getting stronger daily thanks to good friends and kind strangers : )
peace
I read the topic. It was so Jim.
He even continues to use friends he has had for 20 years. These friends are accepting of this. They get mad but they get over it. Jim keeps them on a string by promising to do home repairs for them.
The same thing that kept me on a string for 5 years.
He even told me how he was planning to scam his friend out of money. He had started a job for friend. The strategy was to look busy and then ask for money. After he got the money he gradually stopped being busy and made excuses to leave. He told me his plan was to hit the friend up for money to complete the job (even though he was already paid) And, Jim said he would look busy until he got money and then leave. So his friend would be charged twice! Charged twice for a job that is not completed. How many times did Jim charge his friend for the job? I know he charged me over and over for the same job.
Jim blew me off on weekends. We would go grocery shopping on Friday in my car and gas. I wouldn’t hear from him all weekend. Then Monday morning he expected me to take his call to go grocery shopping again in my car and my gas. If I didn’t take his calls…..he would call both my phones repeatedly. If I still didn’t take his calls he would drive over to my house to barge in my door to scream at me.
The pisser is that he has more friends than me. His friends are always there for him. I don’t use friends and I have very few friends, and they are NOT always there for me.
I get on facebook and NO ONE is posting me. I see everyone else has 10 posts deep to every comment they make. With me — NOTHING.
It makes me despise Jim all the more. He not only took my money but he took a piece of me that destroyed my social ability.
I was building myself up and seeing faces smile at me. Then I met Jim, and he tore me down, and I saw faces look away from me.
Jeannie
Dear Jeannie,
If what “Jim” has are “friends” then they are pretty stoopid! He has VICTIMS not friends!
Face Book is fantasy “friends” not Real Life friends….social networking sites are not what life is all about. Even if he had A million FB “friends” that doesnt mean squat.
And NUMBERS of friends doesn’t mean anything either. It is the QUALITY of friends that is important. Believe me, I have thinned out my rolodex and kept only the GOLD STANDARD of friends in there…the rest, I don’t need. Or want.
You let him use you as a victim, but now you are not letting him use you any more…his “friends” still let him use them and abuse them….so who is the wiser and smarter one? Them or you? Me seems to think it is YOU!!!!
Jeannie,
Don’t look at his facebook. His friends are all fake friends and he uses them, why would you even want to compare?
Forgive yourself for being duped by this guy. He’s been doing it for years and has been getting away with it, he’s not going to stop now.
With the friend thing, I sometimes feel like that as well. I think that I stopped being fun and was too consumed by spath all the time. It takes time to get back to yourself, to how you used to be. Maybe try something new, something out of the box. Ask a friend to go somewhere, to dinner, a movie, play or ballgame and leave all thoughts of your ex behind.
Being an introvert means that it takes extra effort to socialize because it can be out of my comfort zone, but I always feel better when I have taken steps to meet new people. I’m taking classes and have found that I connect with some of my classmates. We have formed study groups and meet for coffee. I have to leave the bad experience at the door and keep it open to new possibilities. That doesn’t mean that I don’t need support, because I do. But I’m more choosy about where I get it.
Please try and not look for your ex on the internet because you will relive the good times and bad and you will have trouble moving forward. He was (and is) bad news, certainly is not a healthy person. It’s all smoke and mirrors, don’t buy into his supposed popularity. It’s not about him anymore. He can rot, thank you very much. It’s time for you to become more of who you were meant to be.
Hugs!
Jeanie:
FB is NOT real world!
It feeds a spaths ego…..to collect. this is what they do in real life…collect people, use them and dupe them and dump them.
Do not EVER base your esteem on FB.
If you want friends…..get out there and make friends.
If you want social….get out there and be social.
Don’t rely on FB for any sort of anything…..all it’s good for is gleeming info on people.
Another fantasy…..NOT reality!
Opps, he is not on my Facebook. I just threw that in the post as I can’t even get virtual friends cause my popularity has went down the toilet.
But, I get what you are saying. He doesn’t have friends. He has a supply.
He tells a good story to keep the supply coming.
Boy, does he know how to tell a good story.
Every story where he has complained about them, he has also complained the same story to them about me. His friends never connect the dots to figure out this picture? I think I got a light bulb moment.
It is because Jim and his friends are all the same. They don’t value women.
The first time I met Jim’s friend Lee. Lee treated me terribly. He expected to cook and clean. I was a guest and meeting him for the first time. I complained to Jim. Jim explained that Lee has his way. I said I didn’t like it. Jim frosted it over. I was ready to strangle him, and he continued to defend Lee.
Jim added that when he first met Lee’s girlfriend that he was swearing multiple times in every sentence just to offend her. Jim said it was hard to keep a straight face while he was swearing away.
These guys are emotionally 8-years old!