When I think sociopath, I think this: as a pattern, he is willing, with awareness (hence, with intellect intact) to hurt people, or leave them feeling violated, in order to pursue hisĀ gratifications and interests which, for him, are always more important than the pain his pursuit of them inflicts on others.
Malice (as I’ve written about elsewhere) may or may not be a motive or factor. It’s true that for some sociopaths the gratifications they seek are predatory-based; for these sociopaths, the process of exploiting others becomes central in their violating behavior.
But this isn’t true for all sociopaths, many of whom are not driven, primarily, by a malicious or sadistic agenda.Ā
For many, if not all, sociopaths, the core motive driving their behavior is to satisfy a present impulse, desire, or felt need. But the problem with sociopathsāand surely one of their distinguishing, defining qualitiesāis the alarming indifference they bring to the collatoral damage they cause others, about which, at least intellectually, they have awareness.
This speaks, of course, to the sociopath’s deficient empathy and tendency to callousness. But again, the deficient empathy by itself isn’t so telling; more telling are the empathic deficits in connection with the pattern, and the sociopath’s intellectual comprehension, of his grossly violating behaviors.Ā
I stress that it is this confluence of the sociopath’s intellectual awareness of the damageĀ his pattern of violating behaviors causes others, coupled with his striking emotional indifference to his damage-causing behaviors, that seems to announce we are dealing with a peculiar personality called āsociopathic.ā
For the sociopath, interpersonal commitments can be maintained so long as they don’t interfere with the pursuit of his targeted present gratifications, or relief. But just as soon as the sociopath perceives a commitment or agreement to interfere with his present agenda, it becomes, for him, effectively null and void. The previous commitment and agreement are now utterly discardable and meaningless.
Whereas the nonsociopath would feel some shame, some uneasiness, to suddenly, unilaterally blow-off, and render nonbinding, a commitment he made to someone else, the sociopath feels relatively untroubled doing so. Why?
One reason is this: Whatever, in the sociopath’s mind, emerges as interfering with his present, immediate interest(s)ābe it previously accepted obligations, commitments, responsibilities, and, yes, relationshipsāthese become experienced, for the sociopath, as presently obstructive, and thereby antogonistic to his current agenda.
Therefore, he now feels the right, in effect, to protect himself against the assault of intrusions and unwelcome constraints to his agenda, whatever their source. He protects himself (and his interests) by, metaphorically, flipping his middle finger at these unwelcome disturbances to the pursuit of his immediate interests.
The sociopath feels entitled to do this! In his mind, things, or you, have gotten in his way. This makes him, in a sense, the victim, and you, or whatever now obstructs his agenda, his victimizer.
Yes, this is an extremely narcissistic position, and yes, the sociopath embodies narcissism in its most virulent form.
Let’s look at an arbitrary example: If you were to ask a sociopath, āHow could you have just, blatantly, without shame, left your āĖdate’ waiting at that restaurant, where you arranged to meet at 8 pm, and never showed up, and never even called to say you weren’t showing up,?ā here are some things he might say, versus what he might have really been thinking:
He might say, āYou are right. That was inexcusable. I should not have done that.ā (Reflecting his intellectual awareness of the social inappropriateness of his behavior.)
But he might be thinking, āI left her there because I had a chance to go out with that cashier I’d been scouting at the CVS for the last couple weeks; and I sure as hell wasn’t gonna let that opportunity pass. I wasn’t gonna let her (my date) stand in the way of my pursuing a better, more exciting opportunity.ā
Or, he might say, āYeah, I should have at least called. That would have been right.ā. (Reflecting his intact intellect)
But he might be thinking, āCalling her would have taken time out of my life at that moment, when I was concentrating on my present priority, which was to impress and seduce this cashier. I did not want to be hindered in my present agenda. I should never have to be hindered in my agenda, and anything, or anyone, that hinders me by introducing inconvenient expectations of me is obstructing me and antagonizing me. So if she was pissed off and hurt that I blew her off, too bad. She became a nuisance.ā
When the sociopath feels the need to rationalizeāand he is so narcissistic that he may not even feel the need to do soāthis is the kind of rationalizing he does. His present needs are always preeminent, and he feels little, if ever any, conflict about this. He is comfortable making, experiencing, his present needs as preeminent regardless of what this means to the needs, and expectations, of others around him.
In a split second he is willing, if necessary for his own, latest chance at gratification, to devalue and ignore his obligations to others.Ā And he does this from the sense that this is his most basic privilege; it makes absolute, comfortable sense to him.Ā Ā
(This article is copyrighted (c) 2010 by Steve Becker, LCSW. My use of male gender pronouns is for convenience’s sake and not to suggest that females aren’t capable of the behaviors and attitudes discussed.)
Dear Jeannie,
Good! You are catching on! They are each others supply—parasites feeding on parasites! Trash associating with trash. Birds of a feather and all that! So you need to feel sorry for yourself why? LOL ((((Hugs))) Sugar he is the one without FRIENDS! He will never have one because he can’t be one!
Count your blessings!
WOW, Jupiter.
I could have written those EXACT WORDS.
I remember telling him once. “I don’t know when I’ll EVER stop shaking my head over this.”
Seriously, Jupiter. I feel the EXACT same way you do and see my ex in the EXACT same way you see yours. Sigh.
Peace Sister.
it starts very young…
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/10/fashion/10Cultural.html?src=me&ref=general
Callista – thanks for your comment… this blog really is a wonderful place to heal. I’d been reading a bunch of posts and articles for the past few weeks before posting myself and during that time I wasn’t sure if my ex really deserved to be labeled as a Narcissistic spath. I thought I might be just looking for a way to feel better about what I thought might be my own fault, my own weakness or inability to have a healthy relationship.
Now I see though from everyone’s experiences so many similarities to my own. My ex wasn’t overtly bad or harmful, and so much of what he said made sense and seemed enlightened that I really began to feel like the one who just ‘expected’ too much, was too negative, or not a whole person within myself. When on the defensive he accused me of needing to love someone or needing someone to love me in order to be happy when I should find that happiness from within and that I was just afraid to be alone.
Well yes, I agree that we must feel complete inside to authentically love another romantically and of course by that point in our relationship I did need him too much and I was afraid he would leave me, but only because his distant behavior was breaking my heart and he had made sure of my emotional dependence by being so controlling in our relationship.
BUT, then I remember that before I became involved with him I WAS content within myself, I did felt confident, strong, and I wasn’t looking for love to fill me up or to make me happy.
I see now that he was probably only projecting himself onto me, because in actuality, he is the one who can’t be on his own. When he left he said he just couldn’t be happy in a relationship with anyone and that was one of the reasons he had to go. BUT, he went directly into a new ārelationship’ right after and then I found out there was another woman who was likely the reason the first one didn’t continue. I don’t know the details, but I do know whatever happened was ādisrespectful’ on his part and likely hurt the first woman.
It has been just over a year since he’s been gone and according to him I was supposed to be the one who can’t be happy alone, and yes I was an emotional mess by the time he leftā yet I am the one who has remained alone, taking the time to heal and work through the personal growth I feel is necessary before I want to even try to be with another again. I have not gone searching for new love to fill the void, I haven’t indulged in sexual encounters to make myself feel betterā he’s the one who did that.
I am so grateful I found this blog because just since I started posting a few days ago, already, just writing about my experience here has helped to clarify so many things for myself.
I’m beginning to feel so much lighter and less sad. THANK YOU!
Jupiter,
My experience upon finding LF was like yours: I was so reluctant to believe that the man I’d loved & adored, trusted implicitly & relied upon for his wisdom & guidance in all things for 8 years could be a Sociopath! I’d never even have considered it. I was so sure that I must be a really horrible person—-all the things he accused me of being After he left me—& that I’d destroyed my life & wrecked my future, that I’d “driven him into the arms of another woman!” For 2 months, all I wanted to do was die.
I actually tried to die. I felt I just couldn’t live knowing what an awful person I was.
And then I found out, thru internet sleuthing, who he’d married shortly after he left me…..& then I found out by digging thru papers he’d left here that he’d carried on relationships with both of us for 4 years….& that she’s a very wealthy woman. My cousin said, “he has to be a sociopath. no *normal man* could pull that off so successfully for that long.” And my therapist agreed. So my cousin & I both started researching sociopaths.
Then one nite I just happened to watch “Who the Bleep Did I Marry”—-it was Donna Anderson’s story & referred to her blog, LoveFraud. I immediately jumped out of bed & came to my computer. Wow! Just my first cursory look around the blog amazed me. I sent the link to my cousin…& the next morning, she wrote back to say, “I saw the show, too, & went straight to the blog! I was going to send you the link!”
Even after reading the articles & posts here for a week or so, I still wanted to doubt that J could be sociopathic. My 2nd post here, after first telling my whole story, was one of playing devil’s advocate—-presenting scenarios & asking, “how do I know that he’s not just a man who accidentally fell in love with 2 women?” That got me a lot of advice…..all my arguments were quickly disproven. Thank God!
You said,
“I agree that we must feel complete inside to authentically love another romantically and of course by that point in our relationship I did need him too much and I was afraid he would leave me, but only because his distant behavior was breaking my heart and he had made sure of my emotional dependence by being so controlling in our relationship.”
That emotional dependence thing created by his being controlling? That’s one thing I’ve come to understand here that I never would’ve figured out on my own: tho some SPs can be mean & abusive, there are those, like J, who control you by “killing you with kindness” & creating over-dependence. I told him many times, “I don’t know what I would do if anything happened to you: I’ve become just like one of those old women in the life insurance commercials whose husbands took care of all the business & then they don’t know what to do on their own.” !!! I was just reassuring him that he had successfully manipulated me into handing my life over to him.
And it’s infuriating to me because, like you said,
“I remember that before I became involved with him I WAS content within myself, I did felt confident, strong, and I wasn’t looking for love to fill me up or to make me happy.”
They love conquering strong, intelligent women, don’t they?
Wouldn’t be much of a thrill to vanquish easy prey, would it?
Welcome all who sadly find this incredible place to share and heal.
Jupiter, I’m really sad to hear about how he not only stole your heart, but stole the music within you too. It’s amazing how we pick this ONE guy to let all the way in and we could not have chosen a WORSE guy to have done so. We protected ourself for so long. Waiting for just the right one to give our entire hear to and then when we do, they tear it to shreds and leave us bewildered at the absolutely incomprehensibility of it all.
But I believe the music is still within you and your heart (while shattered) is still beating and that all will one day (slowly, unfortunately) return to you one day.
I hear you on not being with anyone else. I avoided others too. But I think when we are ready AND THE RIGHT ONE COMES ALONG, it will be very restorative to our hearts an souls and the music can return to us again.
My heart breaks for everyone here. If nothing else, we know we are not alone. There is some solace in that.
Peace Sisters
The Cashier at CVS LMFAO! the one he flirted with right in front of me, the one he called with the cell phone I paid for(not sure it was her but it was a female) until I called the number and disconnected his phone! When I confronted him about always being so FAKE to her the cashier and it was so obvious he told me my dad used to do that ??? and I should try it (being fake) sorry I am real and if I fake anything its my smile after going through that BS! thanks for the article …
Callista, I am also in Canada and I’m sorry to hear about how hard this past holiday weekend must have been for you. I relate strongly to much of what I’ve read in your posts in this and other threads.
Yesterday I read every article Steve has written on this site and listened to both of his radio interviews… all I can say is WOW… I was so blinded by what I thought was good will.
THANKS DR. STEVE for ALL the valuable information you’ve shared here to help us understand and heal from these dysfunctional partners that we have given our trust and hearts to.
Dear Jupiter,
Keep on reading! Knowledge is our power and we can take it back by learning about them, and also learning about ourselves. It starts out about them, but becomes about ourselves. You are on your way and I’m glad that Steve’s articles have resonated with you. They ARE GREAT!!!! Keep on learning!!!! (((hugs)))) and God bless.
ps. Find your music again!
Thank you, Steve, for this insightful article. It expresses my observations completely. I have several examples of sociopathic behavior that illustrate what you have said.
When he has been abusive to me, and I have complained about it, his typical response has been, “Waa,waa,waa (in a baby voice)… Just get over it! Quit making such a big deal about everything. It couldn’t have hurt that bad. You worry over everything. I get over bad stuff all the time, and you don’t see me whining about every little thing. Do you know all the sh** I’ve had to put up with? Do you know what my life is like every day? …” And thus he launches into his tirade, all about himself, poor him.
I understand that this is all emotional manipulation to divert attention away from the fact that he is abusing me. I can see clearly that he is trying to justify his abuse. But does he really believe it? He may truly think he is entitled to relieve his anger at life by coming home and abusing me. Yes, it hurts ME, but that’s unimportant because it relieves HIM. He can’t feel my emotions, so to him, it works fine. Also, maybe he truly thinks it can’t be that bad for me, because he himself never feels bad about anything.
After the worst betrayal he did to me, when I complained, he said, “I know that hurt you… but…(shrug).” We both could see how the sentence would have finished. In other words, how could I have expected him to act any other way? To him, it would be impossible, illogical, and unbelievable to put someone else’s feelings before his own. He has actually tried to explain it to me… they are MY feelings, so how can HE be affected? It doesn’t hurt HIM. He knows he has no empathy, and one of his favorite phrases is that he “just doesn’t care.”
The article above says, “In a split second he is willing, if necessary for his own, latest chance at gratification, to devalue and ignore his obligations to others. And he does this from the sense that this is his most basic privilege; it makes absolute, comfortable sense to him.” Exactly! And sadly, his obligations to others can range from simple things, like cleaning up his own messes, to lifetime commitments to family.
Another example is the time I had to do business alone at night in a dangerous part of town. He was with me but driving separately. I asked him to come in and help me, so I could finish it quickly. He instantly quoted a price! He wanted me to PAY HIM $20 to help for a few minutes. (I was already providing full room and board for him; and we were supposedly “family.”) But he was totally inconvenienced by my need at that moment because he wanted to get going, to spend time with a friend on a Friday night (although he sees her every day). My need for safety and for help was nothing. His obligation to reciprocate the many things I had done for him meant nothing. He sold me out for the fun (“supply”) of being with his friend. Interestingly, he was also offering to sell his time with her for $20. He readily admits life is all about money for him.
His mode of operation is simple:
1. My own interests always come first.
2. If your interests are ever in conflict with mine, refer to rule number one.
Another point, the idea that he can decide that a commitment is no longer binding, because his situation has changed… I’ve seen this a lot. He was sick and went to the doctor, knowing it would cost about $100. A couple months later when the bill comes in the mail, he is absolutely enraged, steaming mad, and begins his tirade at a doctor who would …”have the ** nerve to ask for my hard-earned money. He has no idea how hard I work! Him in his ** little white coat! He’s got all the money he needs! And he thinks he can send me this ** little bill? He can go to Hades! I’ll pay that when it freezes over! He’s a crook and he deserves not getting paid. Let’s see him work 8 hours a day in a hot mechanic’s shop, working for peanuts! He can get his money out of some other pe-on. My money is mine!” … and then he dramatically rips the bill up and trashes it. Yes Steve, antagonistic is the right word for his feelings! He has become the victim of the heartless doctor who dares to ask for fair payment. This of course is the very same bill he agreed to pay when he accepted the service. He was totally fine with it at the time. His circumstances have changed though, he is no longer sick, so he feels no obligation to pay for what he doesn’t need at this very moment.
This is the opposite of integrity.
One more thing, about hurting another’s feelings with callousness. “Alarming” is the right word for it. He not only doesn’t care, but sometimes seems to get pleasure from seeing others in pain. I remember that as I first got to know him, I noticed him laughing at totally inappropriate times. In a movie we are watching, for example, let’s say a handicapped child falls down the stairs of a burning building. I am totally engrossed in the drama, nearly crying, while he is laughing at what he calls a “stupid kid.” He does this all the time. He has specifically told me, “Other people are just animals to me. Do you think I care at all about them? I don’t. I laugh when they get hurt. It’s funny.” Alarming!
This is a great article, perfect observations. Thanks!