When I think sociopath, I think this: as a pattern, he is willing, with awareness (hence, with intellect intact) to hurt people, or leave them feeling violated, in order to pursue hisĀ gratifications and interests which, for him, are always more important than the pain his pursuit of them inflicts on others.
Malice (as I’ve written about elsewhere) may or may not be a motive or factor. It’s true that for some sociopaths the gratifications they seek are predatory-based; for these sociopaths, the process of exploiting others becomes central in their violating behavior.
But this isn’t true for all sociopaths, many of whom are not driven, primarily, by a malicious or sadistic agenda.Ā
For many, if not all, sociopaths, the core motive driving their behavior is to satisfy a present impulse, desire, or felt need. But the problem with sociopathsāand surely one of their distinguishing, defining qualitiesāis the alarming indifference they bring to the collatoral damage they cause others, about which, at least intellectually, they have awareness.
This speaks, of course, to the sociopath’s deficient empathy and tendency to callousness. But again, the deficient empathy by itself isn’t so telling; more telling are the empathic deficits in connection with the pattern, and the sociopath’s intellectual comprehension, of his grossly violating behaviors.Ā
I stress that it is this confluence of the sociopath’s intellectual awareness of the damageĀ his pattern of violating behaviors causes others, coupled with his striking emotional indifference to his damage-causing behaviors, that seems to announce we are dealing with a peculiar personality called āsociopathic.ā
For the sociopath, interpersonal commitments can be maintained so long as they don’t interfere with the pursuit of his targeted present gratifications, or relief. But just as soon as the sociopath perceives a commitment or agreement to interfere with his present agenda, it becomes, for him, effectively null and void. The previous commitment and agreement are now utterly discardable and meaningless.
Whereas the nonsociopath would feel some shame, some uneasiness, to suddenly, unilaterally blow-off, and render nonbinding, a commitment he made to someone else, the sociopath feels relatively untroubled doing so. Why?
One reason is this: Whatever, in the sociopath’s mind, emerges as interfering with his present, immediate interest(s)ābe it previously accepted obligations, commitments, responsibilities, and, yes, relationshipsāthese become experienced, for the sociopath, as presently obstructive, and thereby antogonistic to his current agenda.
Therefore, he now feels the right, in effect, to protect himself against the assault of intrusions and unwelcome constraints to his agenda, whatever their source. He protects himself (and his interests) by, metaphorically, flipping his middle finger at these unwelcome disturbances to the pursuit of his immediate interests.
The sociopath feels entitled to do this! In his mind, things, or you, have gotten in his way. This makes him, in a sense, the victim, and you, or whatever now obstructs his agenda, his victimizer.
Yes, this is an extremely narcissistic position, and yes, the sociopath embodies narcissism in its most virulent form.
Let’s look at an arbitrary example: If you were to ask a sociopath, āHow could you have just, blatantly, without shame, left your āĖdate’ waiting at that restaurant, where you arranged to meet at 8 pm, and never showed up, and never even called to say you weren’t showing up,?ā here are some things he might say, versus what he might have really been thinking:
He might say, āYou are right. That was inexcusable. I should not have done that.ā (Reflecting his intellectual awareness of the social inappropriateness of his behavior.)
But he might be thinking, āI left her there because I had a chance to go out with that cashier I’d been scouting at the CVS for the last couple weeks; and I sure as hell wasn’t gonna let that opportunity pass. I wasn’t gonna let her (my date) stand in the way of my pursuing a better, more exciting opportunity.ā
Or, he might say, āYeah, I should have at least called. That would have been right.ā. (Reflecting his intact intellect)
But he might be thinking, āCalling her would have taken time out of my life at that moment, when I was concentrating on my present priority, which was to impress and seduce this cashier. I did not want to be hindered in my present agenda. I should never have to be hindered in my agenda, and anything, or anyone, that hinders me by introducing inconvenient expectations of me is obstructing me and antagonizing me. So if she was pissed off and hurt that I blew her off, too bad. She became a nuisance.ā
When the sociopath feels the need to rationalizeāand he is so narcissistic that he may not even feel the need to do soāthis is the kind of rationalizing he does. His present needs are always preeminent, and he feels little, if ever any, conflict about this. He is comfortable making, experiencing, his present needs as preeminent regardless of what this means to the needs, and expectations, of others around him.
In a split second he is willing, if necessary for his own, latest chance at gratification, to devalue and ignore his obligations to others.Ā And he does this from the sense that this is his most basic privilege; it makes absolute, comfortable sense to him.Ā Ā
(This article is copyrighted (c) 2010 by Steve Becker, LCSW. My use of male gender pronouns is for convenience’s sake and not to suggest that females aren’t capable of the behaviors and attitudes discussed.)
I had to come back and say THANK YOU again!!!! I can’t even begin to explain how freeing the article was to me!!!
After reading this I believe I will be able to forgive. Even my spath would tell you that I was one of the most forgiving people he’d ever met. But when I found out everything and he continued to refuse to acknowledge it…to blame me…to rip me open time after time after time by seemingly moving on with no acknowledgement of the destruction he left behind. I couldn’t begin to forgive!!! Now I can…now I see this is a defect in HIM…it does not excuse what he did…what he continues to do. BUT I can now take a few steps down that road of forgiveness because I can accept what he did and accept that is just who he is….it had nothing to do with me!
Thank you again Steve!!!!! REALLY you have no idea what this article did for my healing!!! I feel like for the first time in almost 6 months that I will survive this!!!
Hi everyone!
I took a little break from LF only because I need a mental break from thinking about Spathiness for a bit, and feel I’ve made some serious headway in putting my experience behind me, but I still continued to read and know that there seems to be a lot of newbies. Welcome. There is no better place to process your experience from the type of personality that brought you here.
As usual, Steve gets right to it. Hard to believe that someone with no personal experience with a sociopath can nail it with each and every post. Thanks Steve! You’ve been more helpful than you can possibly fathom. Steve’s explanation and description of the sociopath’s “intact intellect” and their intellectual awareness of what they are doing literally gave me goosebumps. In my case, I confused my X’s intellectual awareness with an emotional correlate–that he was actually sorry and motivated to make changes. I think that’s what was so confounding for me and kept me hanging on far longer than I should have. (well, and that he was intentionally telling me what I wanted to hear) What always astounds and fascinates me concurrently is that they just do NOT think like us, and we find their way of thinking to be incomprehensible. Even when we can intellectually understand it, I feel like it’s so beyond our capacity to relate, which makes it more difficult to process and then move on. Another statement that gave me chills because it so aptly described my X, is this:
“When the sociopath feels the need to rationalizeāand he is so narcissistic that he may not even feel the need to do so…”
I had another AHA moment when I read it because I did hear my X rationalize some, but I think Steve once again nailed this so well pertaining to my own experience. I think my X IS just that narcissistic that he really didn’t give a flip about rationalizing to anyone.
Hopeful6596~
Hi, Hopeful, glad to see you back!!! Yep, you got it!!!! I agree with you that they ARE that narcissistic…this is a great article isn’t it!!!!
Each step we take in the right direction, each AH HA moment is another page we turn in our healing and learning processes.
BTW, I think you have come a long way since you came here! This is an awesome place, isn’t it! Peace!
steve, you always hit it right on the head. they always play themselves as “the victim” and rationalize that their behavior is actually them protecting themselves..i remember catching him in a lie and he said “you are not to be trusted”..me?? i can’t be trusted..the next lie i caught him in was “i hate you for doing this to me” you bleeping bleep. this is all your fault. yeah, ok my fault you can’t ever tell me the truth and most of my days were spent in the search of truth. my search of truth was “hurting him”. His lies and behavior, some days i’ll call, some days i’ll acknowledge your alive never hurt me. when i would block his number because i was so disgusted with his behavior his response was “why are you doing this to me? i feel stupid to keep calling you and my number is blocked” i asked him how it felt to have the tables turned..i have been 3 months of no contact. none. not a word and i have never felt better. my anxiety is gone. my depression has lifted. i am enjoying things for the first time. i was the victim but, that’s over now. i am the victor because i know what he is and he can’t change.and now i don’t have to keep trying to change myself to his liking. steve, your articles are so insightful and have tremendously helped me. i carried some with me, especially in the beginning…”it’s not you it’s him” , “the silent but deadly treatment”..to name a few..thank you for your contributions and perspectives
Hi Oxy!
Missed you on here, but sometimes I just need a break from it all. I’ve been so fixated on Spathiness and Spathisodes, I was emotionally drained from it all.
And thank you SO much!! I do feel like I’ve come a very long way. A part of me feels like I may never be the same, but perhaps this is a good thing. My promise to myself is to trust my very strong intuition. If somethin’ don’t feel right, it means it ain’t!
And yes, I love Steve’s articles in particular. So very astute and compassionate!
I promise to keep visiting. I think another user, Chinagirl, wrote me a post responding to an older post of mine, and I meant to write back, but I just never found the time. I’m in school and kinda tired at night. But I’d love to stick around and keep learning and hopefully helping some newbies!
Hopeful6596~
Dear Hopeful,
It really gives me a lift when I see people coming here and I can almost FEEL the strength grow in their posts, and they start reaching out to others who are newer and the “paying it forward” goes on with each of us helping others.
I’m glad you are in school, that’s a good thing for a recovery–it focuses you on something that you must learn and accomplish and gives you something to think about BESIDES the chaos.
You may have told me what you are studying but I have forgotten (CRS!) but I’ll ask again! No short term memory. When son D and I got home tonight AI was watching Gray’s Anatomy and it was a reepeat—he said it couldn’t be I said it WAS—turned out it was, and then the regular new episode came on after it—He wasn’t gaslighting me, I knew I had seen the show (actually I’m suprised I had that much memory of it) bu8t it6 was driving me CRAZY that he was SURE I couldn’t have seen it.. It wasn’t any serious thing, but it sort of triggered me back to the X-BF-P, he HAD TO BE RIGHT about everythin whether he knew anything about it at all. (fortunately Ds not like that and wasn’t intentionally doing me that way) turned out I was right and something had changed and they reran last week’s episode and then the new episode for this week so I got two shows back to back. But did make me for a while question my “sanity” since son was declaring there was NO way I could have seen the snow.
I think even now I am somewhat subject to be gaslighted in some circumstances, but the differences now, is that I will stand up and protest, it won’t go on and on ab out “yes, dear, yes, dear” I will prove myself either right or wrong! LOL
Well, hope to see you around again soon! (((hugS)_ Oxy
Miss Goth – the abuse meted out by psychopaths is (whether intentional or not) psychologically and emotionally violent and destructive. Whether they plan to hurt or not the outcome is the same for targets – extreme pain, isolation and confusion.
I fully believe my ex intended to drive me to suicide so he could then wash his hands of any responsibility and say to others “See? I told you she was crazy – all the problems were her fault.”
You don;t get any more violent than that. It is an attempted destruction of the psyche and soul of the target.
What has been your experience with sociopaths / psychopaths ( the name is often used interchangably even by professionals)?? And how are you managing after your encounter?
MissGoth, It’s all about what works for you. Or, what works for me. Or what works for anybody else on this site. We are a diverse lot, and while we have a sociopath in common, that may or may not be the only thing. We all identify more with a couple of other posters than we do with the rest. It’s normal and it’s okay. If you disagree with someone, it’s okay to disagree, politely, as you did. There’s always the option not to respond at all.
We are at different places on the path. Some folks are in discovery…they are still aghast at what they’ve dis-covered.
The mask has slipped and they are staring at a monster….
Everything about their lives is in turmoil…nothing is as it seemed…the very foundation they built their belief system on, is torn up…like a jackhammer tearing up the concrete of a sidewalk, they are shaken and confused. Amazed and unsure.
It is an experience of extreme violence.
Others are working on recovery. That is when you begin to put the peices back together. Where you begin to reestablish a foundation, and figure out where you stand.
This is where you pour new concrete on your path, and work at moving on down the road.
Your path may not be my path, and perhaps we’ll never meet again, beyond this crossing, but we all have something to gain, and we all have something to share, and as long as one person is helped by something I say, then it’s a good thing. God Bless us, Every-one.
Super Article !!!
It hits home so deeply because I never detected MALICE in any of his actions or deceit. Even now, when things are as bad as can be – I still don’t get a sense of in your face malice – CONTEMPT yes – but not malice or intentional harm.
Your article brings home to my head and heart that he just CANNOT or WILL NOT see past his own needs , wants and desires to allow someone else to come first – not his wife, not his own children.
Just that blank LOOK when you are trying to get him to see how selfish he is or how he is affecting the children .
It does seem he has put the other women and his current G/F first – doing all the right things at least on the outside.
But – as you state – his behavior is a means to an end – he knows what he has to do to get what he wants.
My question is – is this all automatic in their personality or is there deliberate conscious PLOTTING that goes on ? Maybe both ??
This divorce is 29 months and counting – just submitted my final proposal – I need a miracle , I know.
It’s still hard to fathom that the wonderful, soul-mate I first knew was all a fake – but I am watching him make all the right moves again with her – and sad to say – hopefully I get to see her unravel eventually. No one deserves it more – guess they both deserve each other.
Thanks, Steve – you keep us headed in the right direction !!!
I so much appreciate the positive feedback from all of you, thanks so much for taking the time to share it! I also appreciate the incredible thoughtfulness of the responses to my article.
As always, way more wisdom in your responses, to be honest, than what I perceive my article to offer. Having said that, however my articles resonate with anyone who reads them, this is very satisfying and really makes my day.
Stolen_Innocence, I am really very thrilled that this article had a liberating effect on you, for you! And I really thank you for sharing this with me. It means more to me than I can express here without sounding mawkishly sentimental. But seriously, thank you…and again, I’m glad, really thrilled for you, that you are able to feel freer now.
Thanks all!
Oxy,