When I think sociopath, I think this: as a pattern, he is willing, with awareness (hence, with intellect intact) to hurt people, or leave them feeling violated, in order to pursue hisĀ gratifications and interests which, for him, are always more important than the pain his pursuit of them inflicts on others.
Malice (as I’ve written about elsewhere) may or may not be a motive or factor. It’s true that for some sociopaths the gratifications they seek are predatory-based; for these sociopaths, the process of exploiting others becomes central in their violating behavior.
But this isn’t true for all sociopaths, many of whom are not driven, primarily, by a malicious or sadistic agenda.Ā
For many, if not all, sociopaths, the core motive driving their behavior is to satisfy a present impulse, desire, or felt need. But the problem with sociopathsāand surely one of their distinguishing, defining qualitiesāis the alarming indifference they bring to the collatoral damage they cause others, about which, at least intellectually, they have awareness.
This speaks, of course, to the sociopath’s deficient empathy and tendency to callousness. But again, the deficient empathy by itself isn’t so telling; more telling are the empathic deficits in connection with the pattern, and the sociopath’s intellectual comprehension, of his grossly violating behaviors.Ā
I stress that it is this confluence of the sociopath’s intellectual awareness of the damageĀ his pattern of violating behaviors causes others, coupled with his striking emotional indifference to his damage-causing behaviors, that seems to announce we are dealing with a peculiar personality called āsociopathic.ā
For the sociopath, interpersonal commitments can be maintained so long as they don’t interfere with the pursuit of his targeted present gratifications, or relief. But just as soon as the sociopath perceives a commitment or agreement to interfere with his present agenda, it becomes, for him, effectively null and void. The previous commitment and agreement are now utterly discardable and meaningless.
Whereas the nonsociopath would feel some shame, some uneasiness, to suddenly, unilaterally blow-off, and render nonbinding, a commitment he made to someone else, the sociopath feels relatively untroubled doing so. Why?
One reason is this: Whatever, in the sociopath’s mind, emerges as interfering with his present, immediate interest(s)ābe it previously accepted obligations, commitments, responsibilities, and, yes, relationshipsāthese become experienced, for the sociopath, as presently obstructive, and thereby antogonistic to his current agenda.
Therefore, he now feels the right, in effect, to protect himself against the assault of intrusions and unwelcome constraints to his agenda, whatever their source. He protects himself (and his interests) by, metaphorically, flipping his middle finger at these unwelcome disturbances to the pursuit of his immediate interests.
The sociopath feels entitled to do this! In his mind, things, or you, have gotten in his way. This makes him, in a sense, the victim, and you, or whatever now obstructs his agenda, his victimizer.
Yes, this is an extremely narcissistic position, and yes, the sociopath embodies narcissism in its most virulent form.
Let’s look at an arbitrary example: If you were to ask a sociopath, āHow could you have just, blatantly, without shame, left your āĖdate’ waiting at that restaurant, where you arranged to meet at 8 pm, and never showed up, and never even called to say you weren’t showing up,?ā here are some things he might say, versus what he might have really been thinking:
He might say, āYou are right. That was inexcusable. I should not have done that.ā (Reflecting his intellectual awareness of the social inappropriateness of his behavior.)
But he might be thinking, āI left her there because I had a chance to go out with that cashier I’d been scouting at the CVS for the last couple weeks; and I sure as hell wasn’t gonna let that opportunity pass. I wasn’t gonna let her (my date) stand in the way of my pursuing a better, more exciting opportunity.ā
Or, he might say, āYeah, I should have at least called. That would have been right.ā. (Reflecting his intact intellect)
But he might be thinking, āCalling her would have taken time out of my life at that moment, when I was concentrating on my present priority, which was to impress and seduce this cashier. I did not want to be hindered in my present agenda. I should never have to be hindered in my agenda, and anything, or anyone, that hinders me by introducing inconvenient expectations of me is obstructing me and antagonizing me. So if she was pissed off and hurt that I blew her off, too bad. She became a nuisance.ā
When the sociopath feels the need to rationalizeāand he is so narcissistic that he may not even feel the need to do soāthis is the kind of rationalizing he does. His present needs are always preeminent, and he feels little, if ever any, conflict about this. He is comfortable making, experiencing, his present needs as preeminent regardless of what this means to the needs, and expectations, of others around him.
In a split second he is willing, if necessary for his own, latest chance at gratification, to devalue and ignore his obligations to others.Ā And he does this from the sense that this is his most basic privilege; it makes absolute, comfortable sense to him.Ā Ā
(This article is copyrighted (c) 2010 by Steve Becker, LCSW. My use of male gender pronouns is for convenience’s sake and not to suggest that females aren’t capable of the behaviors and attitudes discussed.)
One, do what you know is RIGHT and if that means biting your tongue from saying a harsh truth too harshly, do that, but if it means being FIRM, do that too. You can handle it, I know you can.
The truth, but with softness and firmness at the same time. (((hugs)))
Hey one step!
This kind of stuff happens a lot at my job and I really sympathize. Don’t you wish people would just be upfront with their communications and take responsibility for their own issues?
The last time something like this came up with me, it was with my direct supervisor who has trouble forming relationships. The one thing I did to prepare myself for the meeting where I had to confront her was to set the intention. My intention was to have a positive outcome. This helped immensely, as she was very defensive and difficult.
The next thing I did was use the S-B-I format for my discussion. SBI stands for “situation, behavior, impact”. I let her know the situation, what her behavior was, and the impact it had on me. I avoided any kind of judgments about her. Though she is still not the great communicator I’ve been “training” her to be, our talk was very good for both of us, and I feel I had a small breakthrough with her.
The final thing I had to realize is that when people do stuff like this, it’s not personal. It’s usually coming from their fear and sense of being threatened (which you have identified). These types of power struggles can be difficult, but stick with SBI because they cannot argue with your direct observations or with your feelings.
Make sure that you if you get triggered by this, you keep it out of the conversation and process it elsewhere (like here or in therapy). Your co-workers will respect you for keeping a cool head.
Interested in hearing if any of this is useful.
one… I hope things went well. It sounds like the garden is really meaning too much to her and she is trying to make herself seem important, like stuff people do at work all the time. You have such a great personality and I’m sure you will do a good job of letting her see where you’re coming from.
Oxy & Star, the thing is… I do like myself, I do think I’m attractive… I do turn (some) heads… but nobody seems interested and you know one of my biggest problems/fears is being alone, so maybe that’s why I feel invisible. But then again, I’m not in a trusting mood right now either! I guess I feel it’s not going to “happen” for me, the Great Relationship, I’ve been trying all my life… and all I got was relationshits. I was trying too hard, just hanging on to whoever paid attention to me. Oh, what a mess… wish I could go back and change everything. I guess I have to work on letting my inner beauty shine through, I don’t think I do that, over the last year I have noticed that I am distancing myself from people and I hardly talk anymore, I never used to be like this.
Thank you very much for the supportive comments! š
Well, Oxy, I will never argue with your wisdom about love and romance. After all, you’ve had a happy marriage and I never have. But all I will say about traveling to another culture and being open to romantic experiences is….don’t knock it till you’ve tried it! The lessons I learned from my vacation romance have changed me inside and have outlasted the romance itself.
As an analogy, if you are living amongst negative people, you can certainly develop personal strength and a strong identity if you are a strong enough person. But it’s much easier when you are surrounded by positive people who validate you. This is why there are healing centers for people who have been abused.
Similarly, if a woman is feeling unattractive and lives in a culture that values youth and certain physical ideals, being surrounded by men who view her as beautiful and desirable can have a very positive and healing effect. But yes, you have to be open to the experience. If you are expecting every man you meet to be a sociopath, you will close yourself off to potentially good experiences. It does require some trust in your own ability to know when something feels right and feels wrong in the moment. It requires you to make some choices about what you want in the moment, and if you’re willing to forego it for something in the distant future. Vacation romances rarely lead to permanent romances. But they can be fulfilling in a different way.
Dear Star, I absolutely agree with you on “vacation romances…can be fulfilling…in a different way.” Oh, yes, didn’t mean to indicate that they were bad at all if that’s the way I came across, just that they are seldom “permanent” or workable over the long haul,
But not all relationships have to be for life in order to be fun or valuable either!
Even non-romantic friendships can be for a short time and be very valuable and enjoyable—but distance, time,…whatever, might keep it from being something that could continue on a day to day basis, but while it was happening, it was great, and very intimate.
I’m glad that you learned a lot from your trip to CR–that is what trips are for I think, or at least part of the reasons. I met some great people when I traveled and haven’t seen them since but have great memories, or in some cases have kept in touch by letter or e mail, but wouldn’t take anything for those MEMORIES!!! I’m glad your memories of CR are good ones!!!
ps don’t worry about arguing with my” wisdom of love and romance”–believe me darling I’ve had MORE THAN MY SHARE OF FAILURES! LOL I was fortunate to have 20 good years but remember, I’m 63-almost 64- years old, so there were some not so good years in there too, and a few HORRIBLE ONES!~ LOL
Oxy, thanks for letting me disagree with you from time to time. ((hugs)). In many ways you are the voice of reason when I throw caution to the wind. LOL I think both are valuable. I also appreciate that people can disagree here without any kind of bad feelings.
I will honestly say that after hearing so many of my older single woman friends tell me how they’ve given up on men – and I observe them sublimating their longing into food, and then stressing over their weight and health – I just tell them….take a trip to Costa Rica, or Jamaica, or Belize, or the Fiji Islands, or Greece…..etc., etc. Sometimes it takes a point of view so very different to shock a person out of their way of thinking and show them a different way.
In another vein, even though my confidence with men is improved since returning to America, I am finding an even harder time meeting men I would even consider dating here, but for other reasons. There are other cultural habits (like the whole cell phone/multitasking culture) that make me very disgusted. I had a first phone contact with a guy the other day from the dating site. He was extremely nice, intelligent, and funny. But he couldn’t be bothered to call me from a land line. His phone cut out twice and he kept calling me back. Then he put me on hold while another call came in. I just don’t have the time for this stuff. This just seems to me like the American way any more. I find very few people here who do not live their lives like that. I find it rude and inconsiderate. That’s my rant!!! Everyone gives their kid a cell phone, and then the kid can call any time and interrupt a parent who is on a date, for whatever reason. I find it disgusting, and it’s why so many kids grow up with an attitude of entitlement.
Oops, went off on a rant there, didn’t I?
Dear Star,
You don’t need my permission to disagree with me! LOL ROTFLMAO I am frequently wrong, misguided and off base or just don’t get it on any number of subjects! LOL
I agree with you that many women (and men too) put their desires for one thing that are frustrated into food, drugs, etc. and really don’t “settle the issue” just change it into something unhealthy!
As for meeting men I would be interested in—well, my choices have gotten VERY PICKY and so that DECREASES the number of guys from the few available ones (unmarried guys from 55 to 85) Actually I don’t know any guys from 45 to 85 that I would be interested in romantically! LOL
So first off, UNmarried….Okay that lets out many of the guys I know in the right age group.
Physically reasonably healthy mentally and physically, have reasonably good manners? —well that lets out another good number
Not a drug addict, alcoholic, financial loser, or hasn’t slept with every crack ho in the county….and so on….so that thins down the number pretty quickly!
Now that we are down to just a few guys—are those guys interested in the things I am interested in? Are they interested in ME? Are they attractive to me?
So, between there being 5 women for every 1 single guy from 45-85, and if you weed out the losers in those 5/1 odds that means there are probably 25 women for every decent man in that age group! So HE has a lot of choices in who he pick out of that group of women–but you know it IS OKAY, because I do know that I am OKAY single, I have a good life and don’t have to have a man to complete my life!
I got a call from a friend of mine who is also a widow, she’s about my age, she’s getting married Saturday to a man she’s known for many years, he and his late wife were friends with her and her late husband. I think it will be a great thing for both of them.
Being FRIENDS with and knowing someone well I think is a great thing for a marriage and it seems that they have got that going for them in a big way, so I wish them well.
I have other friends who married for the first time late in life, and are quite happy, so I don’t think there’s NO chance for me finding love again, but the point is that it isn’t the ONLY THING in life that is important to me. I’m still OK if I never find a romantic relationship again! There was a while there though, that the thought of not finding another relationship made me feel very depressed, lonely and alone, and totally despondent.
That loneliness was what made me so easily taken by the X-BF-P, and why I fell so hard for him. Why it was so hard for me to kick him to the curb. But not now. I actually feel sorry for the woman he conned and married because I have NO doubt he is verbally (maybe physically) abusive to her and still cheating. I’m so glad I got out before I married the arse!
ox, star, shabby –
so she sits down and says, ” i was manic, big anxiety, don’t know why i went off on you. maybe because i was feeling criticized about how i was doing as a coordinator (because I , one step said, i didn’t feel much ‘community’ in the garden this year) so i think i was trying to get back at you.’
well, nice self awareness there.
i wanted to freaking smack her.
but i didn’t. i was naturally doing the SBI star (glad to hear things are still improving with your supervisor), and i was firm, and reeled myself in from being harsh.
she had written me this huge email last week, which i didn’t read; just deleted…’cause i knew she was in a bad way and it would be full of crap she should never have hit ‘send’ on.
she said she’s done this before to people. again, nice self awarenes…..oh bloody hell…i can’t hold the anger, it’s just too damn heavy.
what a waste – i feel emotionally abused. i doubt i will ever trust her again. i don’t care if she’s sick, i don’t accept this behavior.
thank you all. god, i felt so worried.
she is married to someone i will have to collaborate with soon in a work situation – so it was really important that it didn’t go ugly. first thing i said was, ‘i want us to both make a commitment to be patient in this conversation.’ she told me later that the day she had been freaking out with me on the phone, that i had ‘handled’ her well, and that even in her manic state i actually got through to her. and that she started to cry, and it broke the mania.
the fake boy was nuts. i spent so much love and care, energy, patience, kindness, self-control, intelligence and creativity ‘taking care’ of him. dealing with people who are in a bad way now….it’s so close to my loss of time, energy and stolen love, defrauded care….; and my broken heartedness.
my lf friend who i was so worried about before when she disappeared – well, she is in a very very bad way, and if she doesn’t make one small move to help herself, i will have to let her go. I don’t want to do this anymore. I don’t want to give into a void. it’s not that just that i am exhausted from caring like this, i am exhausted bY it. it’s not that i can’t do it (don’t get me wrong, i actually don’t have any energy to do it),
BUT, I DON’T WANT TO!
no no no no. NO.
en o
NO.
it’s been an emotional day.
oxy, you words and faith in me meant a lot to me, thank-you.
big hug back at you all,
one step
Dear One_step,
(((hugs)))) Good job!
QUOTE: “But I don’t want to”
I hear you there sister!
I am so TIRED of taking care of others, and making “excuses” for their bad behavior—bi-polar, depressed, OCD, etc. the thing is that I DESERVE to be treated well. So do you. The responsibility for the entire world and everyone in it feeling loved and cared for is NOT MINE—not yours either!
Giving up my care-taking role and still being OK has been difficult for me. Giving up being the “responsible” one—responsible for everyone except taking care of ME, that is.
It’s been a long hard journey for me, like we always say, peeling the ONION…and each layer I clean off exposes another one that needs to be “cleaned off” too—
The good thing is though, that when you start out with a huge “onion” to peel down, EACH LAYER GETS SMALLER the closer to the center you get! (I just thought of that and it makes it feel easier to do!!!)
Glad things went fairly well, One_step but it was a LEARNING EXPERIENCE for you, you learned that YOU DON’T WANT TO!!!!
TOWANDA!!!
I don’t WANT to take care of the world!