When I think sociopath, I think this: as a pattern, he is willing, with awareness (hence, with intellect intact) to hurt people, or leave them feeling violated, in order to pursue hisĀ gratifications and interests which, for him, are always more important than the pain his pursuit of them inflicts on others.
Malice (as I’ve written about elsewhere) may or may not be a motive or factor. It’s true that for some sociopaths the gratifications they seek are predatory-based; for these sociopaths, the process of exploiting others becomes central in their violating behavior.
But this isn’t true for all sociopaths, many of whom are not driven, primarily, by a malicious or sadistic agenda.Ā
For many, if not all, sociopaths, the core motive driving their behavior is to satisfy a present impulse, desire, or felt need. But the problem with sociopathsāand surely one of their distinguishing, defining qualitiesāis the alarming indifference they bring to the collatoral damage they cause others, about which, at least intellectually, they have awareness.
This speaks, of course, to the sociopath’s deficient empathy and tendency to callousness. But again, the deficient empathy by itself isn’t so telling; more telling are the empathic deficits in connection with the pattern, and the sociopath’s intellectual comprehension, of his grossly violating behaviors.Ā
I stress that it is this confluence of the sociopath’s intellectual awareness of the damageĀ his pattern of violating behaviors causes others, coupled with his striking emotional indifference to his damage-causing behaviors, that seems to announce we are dealing with a peculiar personality called āsociopathic.ā
For the sociopath, interpersonal commitments can be maintained so long as they don’t interfere with the pursuit of his targeted present gratifications, or relief. But just as soon as the sociopath perceives a commitment or agreement to interfere with his present agenda, it becomes, for him, effectively null and void. The previous commitment and agreement are now utterly discardable and meaningless.
Whereas the nonsociopath would feel some shame, some uneasiness, to suddenly, unilaterally blow-off, and render nonbinding, a commitment he made to someone else, the sociopath feels relatively untroubled doing so. Why?
One reason is this: Whatever, in the sociopath’s mind, emerges as interfering with his present, immediate interest(s)ābe it previously accepted obligations, commitments, responsibilities, and, yes, relationshipsāthese become experienced, for the sociopath, as presently obstructive, and thereby antogonistic to his current agenda.
Therefore, he now feels the right, in effect, to protect himself against the assault of intrusions and unwelcome constraints to his agenda, whatever their source. He protects himself (and his interests) by, metaphorically, flipping his middle finger at these unwelcome disturbances to the pursuit of his immediate interests.
The sociopath feels entitled to do this! In his mind, things, or you, have gotten in his way. This makes him, in a sense, the victim, and you, or whatever now obstructs his agenda, his victimizer.
Yes, this is an extremely narcissistic position, and yes, the sociopath embodies narcissism in its most virulent form.
Let’s look at an arbitrary example: If you were to ask a sociopath, āHow could you have just, blatantly, without shame, left your āĖdate’ waiting at that restaurant, where you arranged to meet at 8 pm, and never showed up, and never even called to say you weren’t showing up,?ā here are some things he might say, versus what he might have really been thinking:
He might say, āYou are right. That was inexcusable. I should not have done that.ā (Reflecting his intellectual awareness of the social inappropriateness of his behavior.)
But he might be thinking, āI left her there because I had a chance to go out with that cashier I’d been scouting at the CVS for the last couple weeks; and I sure as hell wasn’t gonna let that opportunity pass. I wasn’t gonna let her (my date) stand in the way of my pursuing a better, more exciting opportunity.ā
Or, he might say, āYeah, I should have at least called. That would have been right.ā. (Reflecting his intact intellect)
But he might be thinking, āCalling her would have taken time out of my life at that moment, when I was concentrating on my present priority, which was to impress and seduce this cashier. I did not want to be hindered in my present agenda. I should never have to be hindered in my agenda, and anything, or anyone, that hinders me by introducing inconvenient expectations of me is obstructing me and antagonizing me. So if she was pissed off and hurt that I blew her off, too bad. She became a nuisance.ā
When the sociopath feels the need to rationalizeāand he is so narcissistic that he may not even feel the need to do soāthis is the kind of rationalizing he does. His present needs are always preeminent, and he feels little, if ever any, conflict about this. He is comfortable making, experiencing, his present needs as preeminent regardless of what this means to the needs, and expectations, of others around him.
In a split second he is willing, if necessary for his own, latest chance at gratification, to devalue and ignore his obligations to others.Ā And he does this from the sense that this is his most basic privilege; it makes absolute, comfortable sense to him.Ā Ā
(This article is copyrighted (c) 2010 by Steve Becker, LCSW. My use of male gender pronouns is for convenience’s sake and not to suggest that females aren’t capable of the behaviors and attitudes discussed.)
oxy – it IS a hard journey. It’s the way i love. trauma bond lovin’.
‘each layer gets smaller’.. i think that’s right for me; it really resonates.
next thing for me – new set of boundaries, to move me away from the things’ I don’t want to.’
Good for you onestep!
I dont blame you for being mad at this friggin freak! I worked 2 days a week for 2 years as a Volunteer,{unpaid} for this organization which took in Dementia and Alzheimer sufferers-men and women, in to this cottage. It gave their FT carers a break from them, and they enjoyed the activities, _such as they were able to do, and the company. We all had a very nice lunch together, and to begin with I really loved it. Then, the co-ordinator, Nancy, who to begin with was “all over me like a rash,” praising me to the skies,all lovey dovey with me, flattery, etc, she got more and more controlling and snakey as time went on.
I remember my last day there,I had suggested we take the old people outside in the Sun porch, where there was shade, as well as sun, lovely flowers, fresh air, comfy seats, etc., I mentioned that the Vit D, the sunshine vit. would do them good.
“No! She shouted.”Im in charge and I make the rules, and I say they stay in!”No reason given.
OK, that was my last day there.At the time I was still processing info from LF re spaths, and the anger and resentment rose up in me, and I thought,
“WTF am I doing here, putting up with this Shiat? its not even as if Im being paid!”
They tried to persuade me to stay on, but I got the hell out.I DID write to the management committe about this control freak,but all I got back was a face saving note, thanking me for my “invaluable input,sadly missed”, blah blah.
Six months later, I wrote them again to ask if things were any different there, got the same face saving letter to say that the “issues Id previously mentione d hadnt been resolved, so may be for the best if I didnt return there.In other word,
“Dont rock the boat sista!”
So, that was it.
Dont cast your precious pearls before swine!Do you all feel the same way, ie, when you start to react with righteous anger at the spath in your life, you dont put up with ANY MORE SHIAT from other peeps as well?Starting to put up MUCh needed Boundaries?
Love,
mama Gem.XX
Dear Gem,
Putting up boundaries for everyone around you is important as well as for the psychopaths. Most people respect what we think of as “manners” which are really generally accepted “boundaries.”
“Manners” change from time to time and from culture to culture, but in general the “say please and thank you” etc. are fairly standard. When the manners that culture A teaches and culture B teaches are 180 degrees off there is frequently some problems and misunderstanding that need to be VERBALIZED so that everyone is on the “same page.”
The Bible and other sacred writings teach us “manners” basically and how we should treat others.
“Thou shalt not kill,” or “thou shalt not covet they neighbor’s stuff” (paraphrased) “do unto others…” etc. are rules to live by, manners.
If everyone respected boundaries and manners (i.e. a general moral compass) then there would be less problems in the world.
Some psychopaths who do not respect anyone’s boundaries or rules may actually have “good manners’ and say “please and thank you” but they violate the rules of “do not covet thy neighbor’s wife..” so they cheat ir they steal, they just cover it up with superficial manners.
Some Psychopaths are good at the “masking” and pretending. Others are crude and rude. It doesn’t matter whether they are mannered or crude. The behavior is evil, it is hurtful.
We don’t have to accept that kind of behavior…we have two legs and we can WALK. NC FOREVER!!!!
gem – she’s sick. and it was hard, for all the reasons stated – and i realyl want to stop wanting to smack people who abuse me. set boundaries, take care of myself – that’s all good….but i truly wanted to smack her. it’s tiring. but i think i will feel this way for a while yet (about people in general) i worry that i am feeding the wrathful dragon too much; and at the same time i don’t think i am anywhere near the bottom of this fire pit of anger yet.
to have been so DISRESPECTED by the spath, has left a red hot wound in me – and when i see disrespect coming my way, I want to smack the bearer. i actually showed my teeth to someone on friday. omg….not the best move in a work situation. i may have to deal with fall out from it – and it may be bad – don’t know. but i couldn’t control myself – if i had really gone for it i would have actually snarled at the woman –
so, yah well, i have gone nc with both my sister and father since the spath, and i do spend a lot of time trying to control myself. i feel very frustrated much of the time, and don’t have many ways to release the adrenaline and pent up anger – can’t do it through exercise, and don’t have a car (driving is a good stress release for me), but i DID come up with a good idea the other day. shooting. i am going to find out what the shooting range costs and i am going to go shoot something. um, a target.
Great job, one step. Pretty impressive! I’m glad you were able to contain your anger but not repress it. The anger sounds very healthy. You really sound like you’ve gotten stronger in months I’ve been away.
def. star – i am glad you are hanging ’round again. š
yeah, I missed you guys. I cannot promise I’ll be here much, but I’ll try not to stay away so long.
I’m with you, Oxy, about the lack of truly interesting, exciting, and available men here. I made a very nice connection with my medical massage teacher the last time he was in town teaching. I got two private massages from him, and we started to bond at that time. He has a Buddhist background like me, and his presence is very stimulating to me on many levels. He is the one guy who could make me forget the dude in Costa Rica. But he lives with someone (I think) in Arizona, so the most we can have is a friendship or a mentor/student relationship. He would be a great mentor for me. Outside of him, no one around here excites me in the least.
P.S. Good for you for laughing at me for asking your permission to disagree. ha ha ha. That was pretty funny if I must say so myself. LMAO.
Dear Star, Im no “guru” darling, I’m just another poster on here—maybe more often just because I have retired and dont’ have a job and I guess this is my “job now” of a so–I do try to watch out for new posters and welcome them so that they will feel they have arrived at a helpful and welcoming place. PI just hate to put a blog post up and everyone ignores me or posts around me like I am invisible. Like walking into a coctail parfty and and try to speak to people and everyone ignores you and goes on chatting and you want to join in but they treat you like either your’e the server or invisible.
Now just about everyone welcomes new posters and I know how welcome it made me feel when someone finally welcomed me.
I think blogs have personalities (slightly change as time goes on) but this is a good one, generally peaceful, posters are generally on the more (rather than less) side of being educated and smart, with empathy and compassion, and not too many “disturbed dysfunction victims” here (READ: BPDs) though I have noticed people who are high in traits for anxiety, people who seem severely depressed, a couple who may have been bi-polar manic, and I think several with dependent personality disorder. So there’s a cross section of mental disorders and mentally ill, in the victims who have suffered at the hands of the psychopaths….not all of us (any of us?)) came into the abuse by way of being perfect to start with. There was somethin about us, some missing piece that allowed the psychopath into our lives.
For me, I’ve found several “holes” in my dikes that easily allowed psychopaths to enter my life, my soul, like a virus, I’m also learning the signs and symptoms that show up when I’ve been “infected” by a virus, and I can help my bodies defense mechanism send out the troops to drive the invader away!@.......
It was easy enough to find, see and repair the empty hole in my boundaries where my husband’s loss had opened up an empty spot right in my heart, so rather than let that heal slowly from the inside out, I was open for a “transplant” in the guise of my psychopathic suitor who “love bombed me”feel like I had found the perfect man to fill my life, to replace my broken heart and we would live “happily every after”?
Of course it didn’t work out that way because he was a serial cheat that only wanted a wife to replace the one he had kick him out when she caught him cheating. He wanted a respectable wife to keep his harem in line “Oh, I couldn’t leave oxy, it would hurt her too much, other wise I’d be with you, suzy or diane, or jane,” or ____just fill in the blank.
Well, Stargazer, even a good male non-romantic friend is a good thing….I don’t pick my friends by their gener much but by mutual interests. I’ve always had a lot of male friends because of my horseback riding, living history, and interest in cattle and livestock, wild life photography etc. Even my girl friends are mostly out-doorsy types. And I’ve always had a wide range of ages in my friends with many being much older than me.
But as gregarious and outgoing as I once was, I could live pretty happily alone on a deserted island as long as I had my computer, and a way to get books to the island from time to time, a dog or two, my parrot, my cats, and the jack asses for transportation and companionship. I could live on fish and fruit.
That’s a nice thought, but Thor Heydall and his wife did that in the South Pacific and liked to have starved themselves to death, there’s been other non-natives of the islands try it to not great success it is a cute dream though! Actually my little hole in the woods could be a deserted island if I wanted it to be.
But I don’t seem to “need” the more frequent contacts with the acquaintences that I used to enjoy, but rather would spend more quality time with fewer people than more supperficial time with more people.
One:
I’m pleased at how you thought this ‘encounter’ through.
Next time you can remember, when the anxiety hits…..it’s not worth it. I used to worry about everything…..until I landed up with a bleeding colon at 20. So I started asking myself…..is this going to KILL me or anyone I love…..the answer was always NO! So I learned to handle the ‘worry’ part better for ME.
It’s all a learning process…..as you know.
But your self awareness is HUGE! So…..give yourself a pat on the back!
Star;
You sound so GOOD! I, too am pleased your around…..
Oxy…..Um, don’t go running off to that desert island…..not sure the asses would like it there! š
Gem: Yep darlen….boundaries are important! So very important!
XXOO to all you ladies……