When I think sociopath, I think this: as a pattern, he is willing, with awareness (hence, with intellect intact) to hurt people, or leave them feeling violated, in order to pursue hisĀ gratifications and interests which, for him, are always more important than the pain his pursuit of them inflicts on others.
Malice (as I’ve written about elsewhere) may or may not be a motive or factor. It’s true that for some sociopaths the gratifications they seek are predatory-based; for these sociopaths, the process of exploiting others becomes central in their violating behavior.
But this isn’t true for all sociopaths, many of whom are not driven, primarily, by a malicious or sadistic agenda.Ā
For many, if not all, sociopaths, the core motive driving their behavior is to satisfy a present impulse, desire, or felt need. But the problem with sociopathsāand surely one of their distinguishing, defining qualitiesāis the alarming indifference they bring to the collatoral damage they cause others, about which, at least intellectually, they have awareness.
This speaks, of course, to the sociopath’s deficient empathy and tendency to callousness. But again, the deficient empathy by itself isn’t so telling; more telling are the empathic deficits in connection with the pattern, and the sociopath’s intellectual comprehension, of his grossly violating behaviors.Ā
I stress that it is this confluence of the sociopath’s intellectual awareness of the damageĀ his pattern of violating behaviors causes others, coupled with his striking emotional indifference to his damage-causing behaviors, that seems to announce we are dealing with a peculiar personality called āsociopathic.ā
For the sociopath, interpersonal commitments can be maintained so long as they don’t interfere with the pursuit of his targeted present gratifications, or relief. But just as soon as the sociopath perceives a commitment or agreement to interfere with his present agenda, it becomes, for him, effectively null and void. The previous commitment and agreement are now utterly discardable and meaningless.
Whereas the nonsociopath would feel some shame, some uneasiness, to suddenly, unilaterally blow-off, and render nonbinding, a commitment he made to someone else, the sociopath feels relatively untroubled doing so. Why?
One reason is this: Whatever, in the sociopath’s mind, emerges as interfering with his present, immediate interest(s)ābe it previously accepted obligations, commitments, responsibilities, and, yes, relationshipsāthese become experienced, for the sociopath, as presently obstructive, and thereby antogonistic to his current agenda.
Therefore, he now feels the right, in effect, to protect himself against the assault of intrusions and unwelcome constraints to his agenda, whatever their source. He protects himself (and his interests) by, metaphorically, flipping his middle finger at these unwelcome disturbances to the pursuit of his immediate interests.
The sociopath feels entitled to do this! In his mind, things, or you, have gotten in his way. This makes him, in a sense, the victim, and you, or whatever now obstructs his agenda, his victimizer.
Yes, this is an extremely narcissistic position, and yes, the sociopath embodies narcissism in its most virulent form.
Let’s look at an arbitrary example: If you were to ask a sociopath, āHow could you have just, blatantly, without shame, left your āĖdate’ waiting at that restaurant, where you arranged to meet at 8 pm, and never showed up, and never even called to say you weren’t showing up,?ā here are some things he might say, versus what he might have really been thinking:
He might say, āYou are right. That was inexcusable. I should not have done that.ā (Reflecting his intellectual awareness of the social inappropriateness of his behavior.)
But he might be thinking, āI left her there because I had a chance to go out with that cashier I’d been scouting at the CVS for the last couple weeks; and I sure as hell wasn’t gonna let that opportunity pass. I wasn’t gonna let her (my date) stand in the way of my pursuing a better, more exciting opportunity.ā
Or, he might say, āYeah, I should have at least called. That would have been right.ā. (Reflecting his intact intellect)
But he might be thinking, āCalling her would have taken time out of my life at that moment, when I was concentrating on my present priority, which was to impress and seduce this cashier. I did not want to be hindered in my present agenda. I should never have to be hindered in my agenda, and anything, or anyone, that hinders me by introducing inconvenient expectations of me is obstructing me and antagonizing me. So if she was pissed off and hurt that I blew her off, too bad. She became a nuisance.ā
When the sociopath feels the need to rationalizeāand he is so narcissistic that he may not even feel the need to do soāthis is the kind of rationalizing he does. His present needs are always preeminent, and he feels little, if ever any, conflict about this. He is comfortable making, experiencing, his present needs as preeminent regardless of what this means to the needs, and expectations, of others around him.
In a split second he is willing, if necessary for his own, latest chance at gratification, to devalue and ignore his obligations to others.Ā And he does this from the sense that this is his most basic privilege; it makes absolute, comfortable sense to him.Ā Ā
(This article is copyrighted (c) 2010 by Steve Becker, LCSW. My use of male gender pronouns is for convenience’s sake and not to suggest that females aren’t capable of the behaviors and attitudes discussed.)
It’s okay, Oxy. I know this is a site for people recovering from sociopaths, of which I’m one – or was at one time. So I kind of anticipated this when I posted here. I understand the caring, supportive place everyone is coming from.
Shabby .. Doctor Ox just ignored us..oh my.
Dr. Ox didn’t ignore anyone, she just got back from taking son D to the doctor— actually if I had ignored anyone’s response it would not have been Ms. Chic (not “Shabby”) it would have been Star! LOL
While I thinketh “the lady protesteth too much” about her new squeeze in CR “NOT being a sociopath” (how could she have known him LONG enough to have told he was or wasn’t –smile–?) I won’t say anything else about it cause I promised I wouldn’t nag her any more so I AM NOT NAGGING HER TO BE CAUTIOUS. So there, Henry!!! LOL ROTFLMAO
As for “WAS being recovering” I think like an alcoholic, we ARE recovering—there’s always a chance for relapse if we are not careful…that was addressed to Henry, not Star BTW, cause I would and will and will CONTINUE TO NAG HENRY! LOL ROTFLMAO but won’t nag Star any more, cause I promised! hee hee š
Glad to be home after a day in town! YUK! to town!
Ox,
Education
Transportation
Habilitation
Seems so simple and so obvious….
Education…lied said he had an MBA from Berkeley. Now I know he has NO degree at all. (he used to nicely tease me about my school…a very good school btw and three degrees….but it “isn’t berkeley” )
Transportation…said he didn’t need it because he used public transpo and I thought he was being “financially responsible” by not having a car payment since he “just got laid off in cutbacks” Found out later he didnt even have a DL because of a DWI!!!
Habilitation…at first living with his mom because he was helping her recover from a major surgery (later found out not true)..then lived with sister…then lived with me when sis kicked him out.
Job…like I said…just got laid off, the got a job with a hedge fund….and got laid off…then worked on a couple of investments….nothing materialized….got a job and quit the first day (twice). Now he is staring his own business and investment fund in an area/business that “she” has taught him. Of course his business profile includes him MBA and a false work history!!!
And then there is me…. determined to love him through it. The poor thing…such a hard period in his life…how could I NOT support him he would support me if I was in his shoes. I might go puke now!!!
Ahhhhhh….sometimes I hate my bleeding heart. And I still question sometimes…could it all be coincidence???? REALLY!!! Sometimes I wonder if I’d question it if he told me the sky was green….maybe I misunderstood right!!! Errrrrrrr!!!!
Dear S_I,
Some of us were talking about how “un-lucky” people like him are….things just never go his way, and LUCK is never on his side, maybe like because he never is prepared—
I wish to heck I could remember the other “tion” that Matt used, it was a good one too…and it did mean JOB —darn I hate not being able to remember CHIT!!!! Some one come in here and remind me! GOSH I HATE having NO BRAIN!! LOL
Yea, my P son wrote on his prison informastion sheet he had a BS in computer science too—when did he get it? Between when he dropped out of school at 17, and got arrested again at 18, did 2 years in the pen, got out and did 5 months on the street before he went back to prison for life for murder? He must have really worked hard and fast in those few months between when he got his GED in jail and went BACK to prison before he turned 21! His BS is in BS! Heck, he has a PhD in BS with copious post doc work! He used his RAP SHEET as a thesis. LOL ROTFLMAO
But it WASN’T BERKELEY! LOL ROTFLMAO CHOKE SNORT, SNARF! Sorry you weren’t good enough to go to BEREKLEY!!!! (okay, I got to stop now, I’m gonna have a STROKE!!!)
Hi OX!
Couldn’t help but enjoy your giggle.
The insult was a Master of Physics…..
But he worked as a laborer because he liked it.
Believe I fell for that and a bunch of it. Well.
Its all fun and games till the cops show up.
I have to laugh at it now.
And then he said… SNARF!
Hope you are well!
Dear Silver,
I like how you “named it”—the INSULT! LOL
Actually I do know some folks who have ADVANCED degrees they don’t use to make a living, but they work at something more mentally challenging than catching chickens in a commercial chicken house! (about the lowest most dirty nasty job you can get!) or digging ditches….and they have a STEADY employment, and they live frugally so “their outgo doesn’t exceed their income and become their down fall!”
I have a friend who has a masters in English (wanted to be a teacher but found out he hated teaching in public schools) he works in a Bike shop, his wife is in last year of medical school and they plan when she goes into practice they’ll start a family and he will stay home and take care of the kiddies til they are in school and he will work on his PhD and teach college. Works for me! The point is, he WORKS at what he enjoys and he and his wife are working TOGETHER toward a goal.
You are right, “it is all fun and games til the cops show up”—then it is NOT FUN ANY MORE!
Ox
Thanks for the laugh!!!! That was freakin HILARIOUS!!!
Maybe one day if I work hard enough I too can have a fake degree from BERKELEY. He did “go.” He hung out at the local bar for three years pretending to be a student!!!
speaking of chicken catchers – i wonder what ever happened to that dood Kevin Skiner that won that million bucks and a gig at vegas? I bet after catchin chickens for minium wage he thinks a million is enuff – well it would be enuff for me – he didnt seem to outgoing or interested in becoming famous – but he won the prize – hope he has plenty of cash left –
So I vote for a name change for the Ox Drover – from here on out I am gonna caller Dr. Ox cause she seems to know so much we need to give her a title…..
I know someone who has a dog called Barkley, yea, BARK ley!Not Berkeley!LOL!!
Love, Mama GemXX