I received the following email from the Lovefraud reader who posts as “Zimzoomit:”
I saw the Lifetime Network show about you and lovefraud.com. What I would like to know is how the man who came next (your true lover, after the fraud) helped you to overcome the emotional havoc your ex who frauded you caused? Is there a specific blog or link on lovefraud.com to tell us how he helped you?
Were you able to talk about things that bothered you about your ex, even ever so occasionally, when/if the haunted thoughts encroached on you ”¦ even if only occasionally but for years after the fact, and if so, what things did your new love say, to help you overcome those thoughts? Was he willing to listen, or did he occasionally treat you like a “broken record”?
Yes, after the sociopath, I now have a wonderful husband, Terry Kelly. We truly love each other, care about each other, and want each other to be happy. I should point out, however, that Terry wasn’t my first relationship after the con artist.
First post-sociopath relationship
Seven months after I left my sociopathic husband, James Montgomery, I started dating a man named John. John was younger than me, fun and entertaining. We actually met online and corresponded for more than two months before meeting in person.
At the time, I was in the midst of finding out what my ex was really all about, communicating with some of his other victims, and filing for divorce. I described some of what was going on in my emails. The story, of course, was outrageous, and I guess that John was actually intrigued.
John lived an hour and 45 minutes away from me, so we saw each other only on weekends. We did normal dating things going out to dinner, to concerts, to parties with his friends or my friends. That’s one of the biggest things John offered me—a sense of normalcy, like a safe harbor amid the insanity of my divorce. He also paid for all our entertainment, which I appreciated, because I was broke.
I did talk to him about my outrage at my ex and my frustration with the legal case. John stayed with me until the divorce was finalized, and for a few months after that. Eventually, however, the relationship ended, and he did make a comment to the effect of, “all you talk about is James.” He may have also begun to feel that my problems were just too big, and he couldn’t solve them.
Still, we had loved each other, and because I loved him, the end of the relationship was emotionally more painful than the end of my marriage. In retrospect, however, John and I were really quite different, not an ideal match. I believe that John was in my life to support me at a very difficult time and that was it. I have fond memories of him, but our relationship was not meant to be forever.
Second post-sociopath relationship
Ten months after I broke up with John, I met Terry at a nightclub. A week or so later he took me out to dinner, and we talked about our circumstances. He had been in a long-term marriage, and his wife had just asked for a divorce. I figured I might as well be honest, and told him that I was married to a con man who took a quarter million dollars from me, cheated with multiple women, etc., etc.
I didn’t know how Terry was going to react. In fact, a month passed before he called for another date—I thought I had scared him away. But when he arrived for our second date, he brought his most recent tax return to show me. He thought what I had been through was terrible, and wanted to show me that he did make his own money.
Terry and I dated for four years before we married. With him, I truly learned to give and receive love, and live in partnership. We care about and support each other. He’s my biggest cheerleader with Lovefraud. In fact, I couldn’t have created it without his support.
If you’d like to read more about how these men helped me, it’s all in the printed edition of my first book, Love Fraud. (The e-book has been abridged, and does not contain the description of my relationship with John.) The story really is romantic
Love Fraud how marriage to a sociopath fulfilled my spiritual plan.
Primer for post-sociopath relationships
Here are what I think are the take-home lessons:
1. In order to have a happy, loving relationship with someone else, we must first heal ourselves.
No one can overcome the emotional havoc for us we must do it ourselves. While I was dating both John and Terry, I was also working with my energy counselor to release all of the pain of the betrayal by my sociopathic ex. Then, I had to work with her to release the emotional pain of losing the relationship with John. By the time I met Terry, I had made a lot of progress, so I was in a much better place to build a solid relationship.
2. Sometimes we find interim relationships before we find true love.
Not every relationship is meant to be permanent. Sometimes we just travel life’s journey together for awhile, supporting each other in some way, then our journeys diverge. This was my experience with John. Although I was sad when the relationship ended, I eventually realized that it had been exactly what I needed at the time. It was perfect.
3. Real love is easy.
In a true loving relationship, there are no games, no power plays, and no exploitation. There is an honest give and take. The two people in the relationship truly care about the each other’s welfare, happiness and success. Real love is peaceful and easy.
Terry and I have been together for 12 years, and I’m still excited to see him. We still make each other laugh; we still want to snuggle. But if I hadn’t done all the internal work that I did, I’m not sure if I would have been able to experience such a wonderful love.
The relationship we experience always depends on what is going on inside of us. That’s why it’s so important to make a decision to heal, and then do what it takes to rebuild ourselves.
To be very hones, while this article is very encouraging, I don’t know how to heal. I’m afraid that I can’t get past my early childhood issues that I’m sure drew me to the Spath. The resources where I live are limited in the counseling department and it seems like I’ve been in counseling of one type or another forever!! I will say that this Spath peeled away what feels like another HUGE layer of the onion and during this ” relationship ” I have become sober for what feels to me….permanently. I really can not see myself going back to drinking and all the pain, humiliation and danger it brought me. Spath showed me that I’m naked and defenseless when I drink and open the door wide for someone like him to enter my life and set up camp.
The things that I’m seeing and learning about my life circumstances and my self do feel more significant than they have in the past so maybe something is resolving without me actually being aware of it yet.
My biggest concern it that I find the RIGHT councilor, one who can work my fetal alcohol issues into the picture, and my isolation issues. How does someone meet someone when there’s not much exposure?
My attitude in the past has always been that it will just happen if the time is right and I suppose I still feel that way. No way am I going to do the on line dating thing. NO WAY!
Thanks for your articles. This website has been so helpful to me I can’t even put it into words.
D2
Hi Donna, I haven’t blogged on here in a long time, but I dropped in this morning and saw your article. I wanted to let you know how much I appreciate your insight and the hope you give for finding a healthy and happy relationship.
Back when I was a frequent poster, I felt like I was not a “worthy” member of this club because I only dated that one sociopath for 3 months, and it took all of a year to get over it. Compared to what most people here have gone through, it seems like a pittance (sp). However, I’ve had my share of painful life experiences, especially growing up with narcissists, and have had to work through my pattern of attracting emotionally unavailable men. You mentioned your “energy counselor” and this resonated so much with me. I could not have healed as much as I have without an enormous amount of energy work. I also do energy work with some of my massage clients and with myself.
A little over a week ago, my mother died. Though I made peace with her before she died, I still regret that I did not see her in the past several years just to tell her I forgave her (though I believe her spirit can hear me now). In spite of the fact that my upbringing was horrendous, and my parents never should have had children, I am still going through all the normal phases of grieving because I loved my parents very much. It’s pretty interesting to watch – first the shock, then the anger – where I’m at now. And because this is how life works, it is also spilling over into my relationships with men and the emotional unavailability of one in particular. As painful as the process is – and there’s no way to get around it – I am grateful to be working it through it consciously.
One of the greatest things to come from my mother’s death is that I have been reunited with my sister after many, many years. (I have not seen her in over 30 years and had not spoken to her in 10 years). We are both finally mature enough to have the sister relationship we never had, and nothing in my life is better than this right now. There is a chance that we will also get an inheritance. We’re waiting to find out, though it is not the be-all and the end-all for either of us. After watching our parents put their material things above their children for their entire lives, we both have our priorities straight. But if I do get an inheritance, it will allow me to move out of state (or country) and make some life changes I’ve wanted to make for a long time. This part is just an update for Skylar and the other longtime members who remember me.
For readers here who don’t understand energy work or who feel their lives are hopeless, or that they will never have enough money to afford help, I offer this: When all else has failed in my life, when I couldn’t afford a counselor, when the Suicide Prevention Hotline wouldn’t even take my call…….I had nothing left to do but pray. Prayer is free and always available. And I have found it works as well as any energy work I’ve done. I will just sit down quietly and ask for help. Sometimes I’ll just say “Hit it, God”, meaning “Go ahead, clear out all this pain.” And usually I feel the energy moving. It comes up and spreads around in my body. Sometimes I need to yell and hit or cry. But the energy does move. I have personally found prayer to be the greatest source of energy work I’ve discovered. I don’t know why it works because, frankly, I am more of a Buddhist and don’t really believe in the concept of a separate God. But for whatever reason, it does work. Whether it’s because God is really helping me or I just believe God is helping me…..it’s all the same. It works.
Thanks again, Donna, for sharing the part of your story that gives me hope.
Star
Star ~
Please accept my sincere sympathy with the death of your mother. I am so sorry. I am glad to hear that through your pain, you and your sister have found each other again.
You are so right, prayer is the answer, an energy like no other.
You are in my thoughts and prayers.
((((((Milo)))))))
Dear Star, I also extend my sincere sympathy on the death of your mother, and II am so glad you and your sister are together agaiin, I pray that continues. (((Star))))
Nice to see you, Star. I am sorry you have lost your Mom. I can sympathize. My Mom died in 1995, and it was a profound loss. I’m glad you have your sister. I’ll keep you in my thoughts, today.
Stargazer, please accept my most sincere condolences on your mother’s passing. I’m grateful for you that you are in a space of understanding your grieving process and that you have had an opportunity to reconnect with your sister. Sometimes, even the most tragic events open doors that were previously closed.
Brightest blessings to you
Donna, I want to thank you, very much, for this article.
Your milestones to recovery are brilliant, and you are 100% spot-on that these milestones and truths are a personal imperative before I can even entertain the notion of a healthy relationship with someone else.
I’m not in the market for another man, as I’ve said numerous times. I hardly even want to allow new friendships to develop – I’m still very, very raw and only in the infancy of my recovery.
Again, thank you for this very open and insightful article.
Brightest blessings
Dorothy2 –
The silver lining in the massive thunderstorm of being involved with a sociopath is that the experience often exposes exactly what you described – issues from childhood. Yes, you will need to address these issues in order to fully recover. Keep looking for a therapist. And keep participating in Lovefraud – many people find it very helpful.
Star- I am so sorry for your loss, but it seems that with the loss comes some opportunities. I hope that they blossom for you.
Energy is the key. All of our experiences affect our internal energies, and damaging experiences create trauma in our energy fields. It is these disturbances that continue to attract negative people and experiences into our lives.
Any technique that clears the negative energy out – crying, prayer, massage – is valid. We are all different, so whatever works for each of us is fine. Prayer is a wonderful approach.
I.’ve only had one VERY short “relationship” after the P X BF that I dated for 8 months after my husband died. I was not so vulnerable with that man and when I saw IRRESPONSIBILITY in his behavior, I cut him off.
A few months later he shows up at my door unannounced, and just “visiits” a little while and I notice a wedding ring on his finger, and he says “Yes, I got married about 4 months ago and it is VERY hard to adjust”—and I think WTF???? I didn’t sleep with you when you were single what makes you think I would NOW? Haven’t seen him since but was very validated in my honoring the RED FLAG of irresponsibility and not going further with the relationship than just a few dinner dates. He was a widower, a pilot, and had local ties so I really did think he might be a “keeper” but when I saw the ONE red flag, that was enough.