I received the following email from the Lovefraud reader who posts as “Zimzoomit:”
I saw the Lifetime Network show about you and lovefraud.com. What I would like to know is how the man who came next (your true lover, after the fraud) helped you to overcome the emotional havoc your ex who frauded you caused? Is there a specific blog or link on lovefraud.com to tell us how he helped you?
Were you able to talk about things that bothered you about your ex, even ever so occasionally, when/if the haunted thoughts encroached on you ”¦ even if only occasionally but for years after the fact, and if so, what things did your new love say, to help you overcome those thoughts? Was he willing to listen, or did he occasionally treat you like a “broken record”?
Yes, after the sociopath, I now have a wonderful husband, Terry Kelly. We truly love each other, care about each other, and want each other to be happy. I should point out, however, that Terry wasn’t my first relationship after the con artist.
First post-sociopath relationship
Seven months after I left my sociopathic husband, James Montgomery, I started dating a man named John. John was younger than me, fun and entertaining. We actually met online and corresponded for more than two months before meeting in person.
At the time, I was in the midst of finding out what my ex was really all about, communicating with some of his other victims, and filing for divorce. I described some of what was going on in my emails. The story, of course, was outrageous, and I guess that John was actually intrigued.
John lived an hour and 45 minutes away from me, so we saw each other only on weekends. We did normal dating things going out to dinner, to concerts, to parties with his friends or my friends. That’s one of the biggest things John offered me—a sense of normalcy, like a safe harbor amid the insanity of my divorce. He also paid for all our entertainment, which I appreciated, because I was broke.
I did talk to him about my outrage at my ex and my frustration with the legal case. John stayed with me until the divorce was finalized, and for a few months after that. Eventually, however, the relationship ended, and he did make a comment to the effect of, “all you talk about is James.” He may have also begun to feel that my problems were just too big, and he couldn’t solve them.
Still, we had loved each other, and because I loved him, the end of the relationship was emotionally more painful than the end of my marriage. In retrospect, however, John and I were really quite different, not an ideal match. I believe that John was in my life to support me at a very difficult time and that was it. I have fond memories of him, but our relationship was not meant to be forever.
Second post-sociopath relationship
Ten months after I broke up with John, I met Terry at a nightclub. A week or so later he took me out to dinner, and we talked about our circumstances. He had been in a long-term marriage, and his wife had just asked for a divorce. I figured I might as well be honest, and told him that I was married to a con man who took a quarter million dollars from me, cheated with multiple women, etc., etc.
I didn’t know how Terry was going to react. In fact, a month passed before he called for another date—I thought I had scared him away. But when he arrived for our second date, he brought his most recent tax return to show me. He thought what I had been through was terrible, and wanted to show me that he did make his own money.
Terry and I dated for four years before we married. With him, I truly learned to give and receive love, and live in partnership. We care about and support each other. He’s my biggest cheerleader with Lovefraud. In fact, I couldn’t have created it without his support.
If you’d like to read more about how these men helped me, it’s all in the printed edition of my first book, Love Fraud. (The e-book has been abridged, and does not contain the description of my relationship with John.) The story really is romantic
Love Fraud how marriage to a sociopath fulfilled my spiritual plan.
Primer for post-sociopath relationships
Here are what I think are the take-home lessons:
1. In order to have a happy, loving relationship with someone else, we must first heal ourselves.
No one can overcome the emotional havoc for us we must do it ourselves. While I was dating both John and Terry, I was also working with my energy counselor to release all of the pain of the betrayal by my sociopathic ex. Then, I had to work with her to release the emotional pain of losing the relationship with John. By the time I met Terry, I had made a lot of progress, so I was in a much better place to build a solid relationship.
2. Sometimes we find interim relationships before we find true love.
Not every relationship is meant to be permanent. Sometimes we just travel life’s journey together for awhile, supporting each other in some way, then our journeys diverge. This was my experience with John. Although I was sad when the relationship ended, I eventually realized that it had been exactly what I needed at the time. It was perfect.
3. Real love is easy.
In a true loving relationship, there are no games, no power plays, and no exploitation. There is an honest give and take. The two people in the relationship truly care about the each other’s welfare, happiness and success. Real love is peaceful and easy.
Terry and I have been together for 12 years, and I’m still excited to see him. We still make each other laugh; we still want to snuggle. But if I hadn’t done all the internal work that I did, I’m not sure if I would have been able to experience such a wonderful love.
The relationship we experience always depends on what is going on inside of us. That’s why it’s so important to make a decision to heal, and then do what it takes to rebuild ourselves.
Oxy, that last “tion” on Matts list is occupation….but vocation works, as does profession, if you finesse the s.
Wow. John and Donna. Just wow.
I’m so gald you’ve both found the right one and are happy…but I’m so moved by this little blast from the past.
Life is certainly full of surprises, isn’t it?
John,
I too am moved by your post. That is so sweet.
Thank you for being there for Donna when she was hurting. You helped each other and now she’s passing that love and help forward, helping so many others.
I also had someone help me when I was lost. We didn’t have a relationship, though. He was a stranger in a sushi bar and I just poured out my heart to him. He explained to me what a malignant narcissist was and how to be boring to get rid of the psychopath — it literally saved my life. That was the birth of “gray rock”.
It’s amazing how ripples of kindness can spread so much further than we ever intended.
Thx Donna,
This is so simple …steps 1,2,3 . I am giving myself time to heal. For first time in my life, I do not feel a drive to be involved with a man. I think it is necessary for me because I am too sad and wounded to be in love or like with anyone. I will keep my mind open for the “bridge people” God may send and not shut out what may be tiny blessings of those who may be a part of my journey for a short while. My Mother said that real love comes easy and does not hurt. She said this to me during the whole year she saw me struggle with the spath I was in love with. This is so true….I loved him, it hurt, so it was not the true love I thought it was.. Just a lesson.
Thank you for the hope that there will be light at the end of this tunnel.
Blue
Blue, I also feel, for the first time in my life, that I do not want to be invovled with a man. I went to therapy yesterday for the first time in 2 years. I told her my story, without my self-diagnosis, and she indicated that he is a narcissist with many sociopathic traits. So, I got my confirmation, not that I needed it, but I am still feeling lost and not sure how to get over this. I know it will take more then one session with her but it’s a start.
newlife43,
I have read your article and posts regarding EFT and TAT (you are being heard). I’ve already started using the tapping technique, when I’m at work, praying, etc. It seems to be working for me. My plan is to look more in depth into the recovery tools that you’ve mentioned, putting them all into practice. Thanks.
Bluejay, good to “see” you, and whatever works to center and balance is the tool to pick! I’ve read a whole lot about tapping, and I just don’t “get it,” yet. I sort of understand the concept, but I need someone to show me how it’s done – I’m one of those people that cannot get the gist unless I do the hands-on approach. UGH….
Brightest blessings
Blue,
I too had someone in my corner who told me that love shouldn’t hurt you this way. It should build you up, not tear you up. It should flow like a river. Sometime the river hits some shallow rocky patched and gets turbulent but then it smooths out again. Spath was like going over Niagra Falls in a barrel.
I was in love and in a way…this was my first love, but it’s clear to me now that I was either in love with his mask or some part of him that is so deeply buried it can no longer be found, at least not on a consistent enough basis to meet my needs in a relationship and or destroy me.
He always said that he wanted to make me happy, he wanted to be the man I wanted him to be and that he loved me. His actions did not reflect that. Some of his actions pointed toward that but for every step forwards there were at least two steps backwards. And he was verbally abusive when he was confronted and I’m certain he was not being honest about several things, money being at the top of the list. And he’s been married four times, lives with his mother, is in bankruptcy and is an un recovering alcoholic. Doomed.
Speaking of relationships after the one with the spath, I have an interesting situation.
I broke up with the BF in Dec. Went out with a mutual friend a few times and he said that he dated other people. I said that was fine because I didn’t want a serious relationship. We were on the same page. Everytime we went out we were in a group of people. We were out dancing and having a good time with friends and he started drinking shots. A song came on that I liked and I touched his elbow. That was it. And he snapped at me saying, “Don’t ever touch my arm again. Can’t you see I busy” He was talking to someone. I just walk away and started thinking about getting someone to take me to my car. I came and got me and lead me to the dance floor and aked me what was wrong. I said because you were so mean and I was ready to leave. He paid the bar tab and we went to where my car was. He told me he wanted me to leave because I didn’t pay the bar tab for his birthday. I said goodbye and left.
I won’t talk to him and he keeps on calling me, like yesterday 28 times. And this morning, at least 8 times already. I sent him a text saying not to call.
This has been amazing to see!
ToBeFree, good to “see” you and I’m sorry for the experiences with the ex-bf. GOOD FOR YOU for maintaining “No Contact.” If you can, block his number – that’ll get the message across!
Brightest blessings and good riddance to bad rubbish!