Editor’s note: Resource Perspectives features articles written by members of Lovefraud’s Professional Resources Guide.
Sarah Strudwick, based in the UK, is author of Dark Souls—Healing and recovering from toxic relationships. She has also created a wonderful animation that describes the antics of a sociopath, called Exposing the Mask of Insanity. View the animation here.
The sociopath’s unconscious death wish
By Sarah Strudwick
Sarah Strudwick profile in the Lovefraud Professional Resources Guide
I recently received an email from one of my readers saying that her husband and mother, who are both sociopaths, had suicide clauses in their wills, so I decided to write an article on the sociopath and suicide. Many people think that sociopaths never commit suicide, but I beg to differ.
For those who aren’t already aware, many of those who have symptoms of sociopathy often have other personality disorders such as narcissistic personality disorder. In fact, it’s one of the reasons why when I wrote Dark Souls that I grouped the two personalities together. Whatever we decide to call these people, whether it be sociopaths, psychopaths, or narcissists, the DSM-5 has now decided to propose putting narcissistic personality disorder in with the “psychopathic type personality.”
So what do all of these psychopathic types have in common? A need for admiration, narcissistic supply and attention. When the attention runs dry, they will resort to any number of tactics, using guilt, blame, anger, and so on, to get their needs met. I saw a very unnerving video from a death row inmate in the U.S. where the guy is asked why he did what he did to others and how he felt about being and death row. He said, “Because I just want to die.”
My encounters
I recently heard of an old acquaintance who I had had the misfortune of being friends with many years ago. He recently died under strange circumstances, although it appears he committed suicide when he got caught out. He was one of the psychopathic type personalities, a loner, a user with a distinct liking of hurting animals and children. I wondered whether the sociopath has an unconscious death wish.
Sociopaths have a distinct lack of impulse control, coupled with their own lack of remorse. My own ex threatened to commit suicide a couple of times when I said I would leave. Of course he never did it. Each time I was gullible enough to take him back.
My own sociopathic father even made a half-hearted attempt at doing it when my mother decided enough was enough. When finally asked in counseling why he did it, he replied, “It seemed like a good idea at the time.” My view is that it was more like he was concerned he wouldn’t have supply any more, and he knew that killing himself would hurt everyone, including his children.
The ultimate gesture
Often you will see headline cases in newspapers where sociopaths go on killing sprees and then just as they are about to be caught out, they turn the gun on themselves as the ultimate “f*ck you,” so that they cannot be brought to justice.
Most of us who have lived around sociopaths know that their sole need is to use others, and unless they are receiving attention, then their lives aren’t really worth living. Take the likes of Ted Bundy and Charles Manson. In their warped way, I am sure they love all the adoration they receive.
Some normal people may want to be come famous. They may be driven by a desire to do something good and succeed.
A sociopath doesn’t care about being successful or doing good. They don’t care whether or not they are “famous” or “infamous.” They don’t mind having a bad name or being associated with something detestable, which is why so many celebrities who have sociopathic tendencies will be more than happy to appear in the news doing pretty much anything just to get headlines.
Here in the UK all serial killers are hated hence our most famous psychopath, Fred West, hanged himself before trial, despite being on suicide watch. Thus he was never tried for his heinous crimes, which included raping his own 13 year old daughter and chopping up a few dead bodies.
But the moment the supply runs out for the sociopath, then what? They are happy with punishment in the form of everyone either hating them, which is why so many thrive in prisons. The worse thing people can do is ignore them, in which case they have nothing more to do than look at four walls, and put them in isolation, so they have to “talk to the hand” and have to face their own souls and miserable existences. And since they hate being ignored and probably died along time ago, what better way to be remembered than to give the ultimate “F*ck you” by blowing their own head off, or hanging themselves off the end of a bedpost in the hope they will have some kind of recognition?
Good article Sarah, Thanks for your insight on this….unfortunately, not all of them consider themselves failures—ever—some actually seem to THRIVE in what circumstances a “normal” person would consider ABSOLUTE FAILURE…prison for life. Charlie Manson, for example, seems to be in his element in prison. My psychopathic son, though of course wishing he could get out of prison, still seems to consider himself a rousing success because he is smarter than the average prisoner and most of the guards, so he has an endless supply of people to try to work his petty cons on, which in a way, is “heaven on earth” to him, especially since he always considers himself SUPERIOR to everyone else and is never to blame for anything that goes badly….it is always someone else’s fault. I see little to no chance that he would kill himself, but there are others I have seen in the news that don’t surprise me when they kill themselves because they perceive they have lost control, and the act of killing themselves is the ultimate “fark you!” to the authorities and the world.
The poor suffering souls though who are not psychopathic who do commit suicide in order to escape their own suffering (many times CAUSED by a psychopath and/or their own mental illness and inability to cope) to be lumped into the same catagory of “suicide” with the psychopaths is a shame.
Thank you again for this thought provoking article.
Remembering that impulsivity and not thinking through decisions is one of the hallmarks of a sociopath, it does not surprise me that once in a while, a sociopath commits suicide. Unfortunately (or ultimately fortunately), it’s the last impulsive act.
I have not read this article yet and I’m going to bed now (will read it tomorrow) (eyes hanging out of head, 1.13am here) BUT I wanted to say something a little flippant here about:
“Why sociopaths sometimes kill themselves”?
JUST PLAIN BLOODY GOOD LUCK< THAT'S ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(goodnight)
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Dear CA mom,
I think you have summed up as well as can be summed up the HATEFUL EVIL INTENTS of psychopaths and yours in particular in taking his own life.
I also hope that by understanding that, you can put away any “guilt” that you might have even in the back of your mind for what he did.
I know that NC, that ultimately losing control drives them wild, and that they do go from pity to whines to rage and anger and accusing us, they flip from one emotion that worked in the past to the next one, like a whirling dervish going round and round so fast that it is almost impossible to see between the “pity me” and the “raging/blaming” ploys. During the short period of time when NONE of my family members (even my egg donor) were writing my P son, his letters were all over the map from pleas to rage, he wrote everyone he could think of asking them to call my egg donor and “see how she is” because she wasn’t writing him and so he just knew something was wrong with her. She would hang up on anyone who called at that time. Eventually, she did give in to sending him money and lying to us and we cut off contact with her because she refused to stop sending him money and to stop lying to us, but it WAS INTERESTING to see just how quickly he between one emotional fake and a different completely emotion from pity to rage and back again.
I don’t think mine would commit suicide actually….because he won’t give up pounding on the “levers” –as in the past —like the rat in the intermittent reward research, he has eventually gotten some kind of reward if he pounds on that “lever” enough times, and I don’t think he would want to miss that feeling of reward by not being around to see it. LOL
He never sees the X numbers of times of pounding on the lever and getting nothing as a failure—just what he has to do to succeed, and HE IS IN HIS MIND A SUCCESS no matter how many times he gets nothing.
I do hope you can see your X’s final attempt at controlling your feelings as a TOTAL LOSS FOR HIM and a RELIEF for you, rather than as something you could have prevented or caused—because it had nothing to do with YOU and EVERYTHING TO DO WITH HIM. God bless you, CA Mom. (((hugs))))
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CAmom, Wow. Talk about being re-traumatized, and knowing he did it deliberatly. He knew how damaging it was to you to have to talk your Dad out of blowing his brains out. Yeah, that is evil.
I do remember this happening, last summer. That is really pretty recent…I am amazed that you sound as together as you do. (((((healing white llight)))))).
Dear CAmom,
I have never been very close to suicide though a former foster kid I kept when he was in high school that I had kept in touch with killed himself 4-5 years ago—suddenly and no note even, but it is obvious it was a suicide that he had planned as he had called most of his friends and said “goodbye” though they didn’t realize it until it was a done deal. I know his death had a horrible impact on his step kids, and his wife and his biological mother. He came from a very dysfunctional family with an abusive P father and an enabling mother. He also wasn’t the brightest bulb in the lamp either.
I do know that in many cases the suicide is the final FARK YOU to people the person hates or blames, but many times it is also the last resort for people who are depressed and hurting. My former foster son was on anti-depressant medications and sometimes people who are VERY depressed if given anti-depressant meds get better ENOUGH to kill themselves. That is a fairly well known side effect. Which is why I was very careful about giving meds to people who were very depressed without also getting them some counseling and keeping close watch on them for signs of suicidal ideation or intent. I actually think that is what happened with my former foster son, but don’t know for sure. Doesn’t matter at this point though, because no way to undo it and no reason his family should feel any worse about it.
Many times out psychopaths know just which button to push to produce the most pain possible….and if your father was always threatening to kill himself and you had to rescue him, then I am sure your X knew this and used that SUPER DUPPER PAIN PRODUCING BUTTON to try to get the MAX PAIN EFFECT out of you. WHAT EVIL creatures they are, but they DO know how to stick the knife in the most sensitive spot and JUST HOW TO TWIST IT.
Which is what finally released me I think from the pressure of my egg donor’s twisting the knife in my most sensitive spots—trying to gain her approval—I realized finally that not only could I never gain it, but that I REALLY DIDN’T WANT IT ANY MORE.
She kept holding out financial incentives for me to suck up to her and that didn’t work, so she tried the ultimate insult and pain to relieve me of my home and my community standing, and she finally realized I think that I don’t give a rat’s behind about any of it any more, I can walk away now because I KNOW I CAN SURVIVE OKAY WITHOUT ANY OF IT. I didn’t know that before. NOW I do.
Now, you know you can survive the WORST that can be, and that his behavior, his actions, even his evil attempt to make you responsible for his death WON’T GET YOU DOWN AND KEEP YOU DOWN. YOU WILL SURVIVE. YOU will THRIVE! He is still dead, guess what? He loses, YOU WIN! You are free from him, free from his evil stalking. Don’t feel guilty about being relieved. I would really be relieved if my son were dead because I’d never have to worry about him getting out of prison. I don’t wish him dead, but I don’t wish him alive either…I’m just tired of looking over my shoulder so it would be a relief if he were dead.
Also – imagine the DRAMA of the build-up to the act; as CAmom says, her spath would have experienced immense satisfaction at the thought of her reading the letter and buying into the self-blame and the guilt that he tried to heap on her.
Then there’s the DRAMA of the thought of someone finding your body and being horrified, sickened and probably saddened; all of these outcomes, while repulsive to those of us who are normal, would be delicious and exciting to a spath.
I’m totally with Oxy on this CAmom – “He loses, YOU WIN! You are free from him, free from his evil stalking. Don’t feel guilty about being relieved. I would really be relieved if my son were dead because I’d never have to worry about him getting out of prison. …..I’m just tired of looking over my shoulder so it would be a relief if he were dead.”
I had not yet read the article when I commented briefly last night, but now that I have done so, I stand by what I said.
“Why sociopaths sometimes kill themselves”?
JUST PLAIN BLOODY GOOD LUCK< THAT'S ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It IS good luck for the victims they leave behind. A chance to heal and move on UNHINDERED by the monster that sucked them dry and vaccuumed them hollow. A chance to RELAX into the things that must be done to heal – because even healing from one of these aberrations is exhausting. It is so difficult to do when their attempts to either suck us back in or demonise and harrass us are continually being played out.
CAmom – what your spath did to you while he was alive was disgusting (and that includes writing the letter and planning its effect on you); the minute he stopped breathing, though, all of his plans back-fired and you won the lottery. It doesn't matter that he went to his grave believing otherwise, because everyone here knows the truth.
Most importantly of all, YOU know the truth. And the TRUTH is, you win – in more ways than you might ever realise.
I wish you peace and calm and healing and nice smells and pretty things and beautiful music and good friends and – LIFE.
(((((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))))
Aussie girl,
You sure have a way with words, dolly! “Just plain bloody good luck” Yep, that is true!@.......
Gosh I wish I’d learn to wear gloves when I garden and work outside, my poor hands are all scratched up—look like I’ve been digging potatoes with my bare hands! Splinters and scrapes and nails torn to the quick! Band aids all over the place! LOL
Well, I’m tired and going to bed. not much going on here tonight anyway! You guys are waaaay too laid back today! Except for Hens lusting after the cable guy! LOL I’ve been here by myself—maybe I need to think about calling the cable company! LOL Give me something to think about anyway! G’nite (((hugs))))