(The article below is copyrighted © 2012 by Steve Becker, LCSW. My use of male gender pronouns is for convenience’s sake and not meant to imply that females aren’t capable of exhibiting the attitudes and behaviors discussed.)
What does it mean to say that someone has sociopathic tendencies, versus full-blown sociopathy, and does the difference even matter?
The simple answer is that someone with sociopathic tendencies will exhibit sociopathic behaviors and attitudes sometimes, while elsewhere he may seem to possess (and, in fact, may possess) a somewhat genuine (if limited and unreliable) capacity and desire to respect others.
In contrast, the full-blown sociopath’s respect for others, when apparently evident, is never really deeply genuine, but rather driven more by expediency or, more specifically, by the lack of any immediate opportunity to benefit from disrespecting or exploiting others.
Another way to say it is that the full-blown sociopath will almost always capitalize on perceived opportunities to exploit others for his own gain, whereas an individual with “sociopath tendencies” is likely to be somewhat less predictably exploitive in his interpersonal relationships.
In my experience, to identify that you are involved with a partial versus full-blown sociopath is not grounds for optimism. So long as sociopathic tendencies are present, their “quantity” seems to me to matter little. In the end, the individual’s prognosis is the same—hopeless. He is no less treatable or curable for the comparatively inconstant expression of his sociopathy.
In some respects it may be more disconcerting to be involved with a partial sociopath than a full-blown one. This is because the partial sociopath’s seeming capacity to be a “real,” sometimes (if selectively) attached human being can serve as a sort of tease—one finds the seemingly less exploitive aspect of his nature even more confusingly impossible to reconcile with the more exploitive one. One seizes on his capacity for “selective humanity,” misjudging it for his potential for ongoing, reliable empathy and respect for others.
Of course this is a pipe-dream, because the partial sociopath’s capacity for “sensitivity,” perhaps even for certain forms of loyalty, is ever-presently compromised by the underlying tug, and ultimate grip, of his underlying sociopathic orientation. He will inevitably, with utter certainty, drift back into his more exploitive mode and exhibit again, at some point in time, the shocking markers of his sociopathy—his defects of empathy in the context of his audaciously violating behaviors.
I want to stress this very carefully: to the extent that someone has sociopathic tendencies, implying that his sociopathy doesn’t necessarily encompass his “whole character” (as in the case of the full-blown sociopath), this is something like comparing two very dangerous, ultimately untreatable cancerous malignancies—the first hasn’t perhaps “metastasized” fully, but is definitely malignant with absolutely no cure and no chance of meaningful remission; whereas the latter shows perhaps evidence of a global invasion, i.e. “sociopathy run uncontrollably wild.”
I’ve worked for several years with a client I regard as having clear-cut sociopathic tendencies and find her to be among the more baffling clients I’ve worked with. There is the strangest, most jarring mix of humanity in her personality, a capacity for generosity, yet alternating with a historical pattern of cunning, lying behaviors and a chilling capacity to comfortably disown remarkable abdications of responsibility.
She has exhibited these dizzying, confusing qualities in her relationship with me. She has lied to my face countless times and produced fantastic, absurd, and obviously specious explanations for behaviors that someone fully unsociopathic would feel anxious and embarrassed to assert. When confronted with her dissimulation, she conveys (and seems to feel) little to no shame, just the knee-jerk inclination to perpetuate and elaborate the deceptions.
She is opportunistic and someone who has “worked the system” in a variety of unethical ways. Ultimately she lacks either the willingness, or capacity, to truly own the varieties of ethically dubious, sometimes alarmingly irresponsible behaviors that continue to sabotage her otherwise seemingly considerable potential.
She is a complex person, a very attractive and seductive individual, and I believe she possesses a dimension within her characterized by seemingly real generosity. At the same time, she can be shamelessly manipulative and deceptive, and can be “counted on” ultimately to be only “unreliable.” She seems destined to leave those in her life periodically stunned by the betrayal of their faith and trust in her.
She will never change. There is a sociopathic element in her character that I believes explains these patterns and that leaves her, in my view, permanently untrustworthy.
I’m interested in readers’ feedback on this subject.
It’s a happy little tune, just a playin’ away in my head, and I think my face feels like it’s smurking…or am I smurfing? Not sure.
Pearlsbeforeswine, There’s a saying in Alanon, I like:
It’s okay to look back, but don’t stare. 🙂
Ah Kim,
you are full of wisdom tonight!
Good song.
Kim
I LOVE IT!!
I have the same smirky look on my face right now. Forgot how well that song fits. HA!
His aunt and I sat at my kitchen table one night after an attention seeking suicide attempt on his part and we were cracking ourselves up talking about making a board game out of him. Kinda like Monopoly. He went to JAIL A LOT! No pass Go, no $200. And we’d deliriously laugh as we waited for him to get out of the ER at 4 am no sleep. If we didn’t laugh back then I would’ve looked like I do right now and that was 14 years ago.
I can totally relate to “everythings fine” attitude UNLESS I did it!
Thanks for the LAUGH I needed it BAD…I’ll sing that the rest of the night….
It’s a little passive/aggressive but whatareya gonna do, It’s when yer livin’ in spath land and ain’t nary a canoe in sight.
Discussions of full-blown Sociopathy seem to be quite prolific on this site, whereas the topic of tendencies thereof, are not confabulated nearly as much. Therefore this was immensely helpful. This “she” you speak of, is very very similar to my ex. Scary similar. This is the first time on this site my experience shares whole-hearted congruence. And I strongly agree that sociopathic tendencies are, “baffling”, to say the least. Although a person with Sociopathy vs a person with only tendencies, people explain to be much more harmful, which is understandable I also agree, the Sociopaths with only the tendencies deliver more curiosity, confusion and other surrounding complexities that exhibit a different form of harm (in all categories of life i.e. the unanswerable.).
I am, and have been, somewhat lost. I read a lot of people’s comments, I read the advice, & I read the science & theories, I read different authors on the subject, and although all of it is extremely helpful & has even enabled me to move forward into positivity, for which I have great admiration for this website’s cause and the people that involve themselves within it, alas, I still have a hard time dealing with my own personal situation, or rather the aftermath of it.
I would like to state that I am Bipolar. I have put in a lot of time correcting my disorder, and now after all the medications & all the research, I do not take meds anymore, for my blood acid pressure statistics have all leveled out. I’ve had many different doctor opinions & all agreed I do not need meds anymore nor any further treatment. I feel a billion times better than I ever did. If a situation arises where my bipolarism might flare, I do not find myself out of bounds in emotional reaction. I still will feel the ups & downs, but they arent as heavy & I no longer let them carry any weight in my actions upon others. I’ve learned how to control it.
I believe it is knowledge of one’s self and our “brain issues”, or the victims of such, and watching ourselves very carefully everyday that leads to succession over patterns of behavioral distress. It is not about a cure, it is about controlling what is wrong with ourselves, creating a 3rd person perspective by example, thinking deeply about the consequences, etc…alas, this same layout is very rare for people with Sociopathy to take on.
Professional Sociopaths, as I call them, consider themselves to of found a way of life that is more evolved and we are all weak & overly emotional for not aspiring to be like them. Sadly, not everyone on this planet are sociopaths, so whatever explanation they give, it is therefore flawed. If the planet was all sociopaths, then yeah, we would be the crazy ones, but I’m afraid it is just not the world we live in. Anyways, it really gets me uptight when I hear a Pro-Socio speaking of it like it’s more intelligent, more evolved, blah blah blah and so on, for if what they speak is true, then why do they not make a profound arrangement to stop trying to convince people, and just prove it’s stability in action for their “club”, without having to abuse another person? They have only proved it in abusive ways. It’s ridiculous. Ironically, I asked one of them that & they get quite upset to that notion. With the twists and turns of a Sociopath brain, it aims the questions & blame back on a person that is not a Sociopath, forever going round and round within their own selfish angle on life. It leads nowhere Pro-Socios! And regardless, ya’ll professional socio-A**holes don’t have the best past of great Sociopaths in our Earth’s history. Pretty sure ya’ll messed it up from the get-go, & you’ve never recovered, and by now, it’s obvious you never will. Only 1% of your kind has…….and that’s honestly sad.
I would like to tell my story and I would love some feedback on whether you think my ex was a Full blown Sociopath, had only tendencies, or if I took her actions & my heartbreak incorrectly as to associate her with any Sociopathic definitions as I do now, and hopefully help others in my quest to help myself. May I write it here? Or would there be a better place to write that elsewhere on this site?
Thank you, and all of you people involved in this site have been an extremely powerful force in my life to counteract the frictions of negativity. Power, love, TV, The internet, etc… much like anything in life, all depends on what you use it for. Much love.
Huh? Please pass the blue cheese and can I have some freshly cracked black pepper?
KIM!!!! No blue cheese for you.
Benjamin, you can post your story anywhere, or here.
Yes, spaths do want to believe that they shouldn’t change, the rest of the world should change instead. This would suit them fine.
Actually though, the really really spathy ones, don’t even want the world to change. They like it just the way it is. That way they can have more victims. My exspath is that way. His ONLY goal in life is just to be evil. Everything else he does, whether it’s sell drugs, fly a helicopter, seduce women, men or children, … it’s all about finding more ways of destroying good people.
Too bad he can’t find a nice hobby.
Kim
I think you’re his aunt! roflmao
I really hate when coke goes out my nose like that. I get migraines fairly easily. You can still keep it light and things have been sooooooooooooooo hhheeeaaavvvyyy….
I had a hang-over, about 20 years ago, and was on my way to work….had a hot cup of coffee with cream, and a Goodies powder…yeah. I hate it when hot coffee and bitter asparine exits my nose, explosively, like that! Ohhhh, and the burn in the throat. Just awflul.
Blowing coke out your nose? A tragedy. Just sayin’.