(The article below is copyrighted © 2012 by Steve Becker, LCSW. My use of male gender pronouns is for convenience’s sake and not meant to imply that females aren’t capable of exhibiting the attitudes and behaviors discussed.)
What does it mean to say that someone has sociopathic tendencies, versus full-blown sociopathy, and does the difference even matter?
The simple answer is that someone with sociopathic tendencies will exhibit sociopathic behaviors and attitudes sometimes, while elsewhere he may seem to possess (and, in fact, may possess) a somewhat genuine (if limited and unreliable) capacity and desire to respect others.
In contrast, the full-blown sociopath’s respect for others, when apparently evident, is never really deeply genuine, but rather driven more by expediency or, more specifically, by the lack of any immediate opportunity to benefit from disrespecting or exploiting others.
Another way to say it is that the full-blown sociopath will almost always capitalize on perceived opportunities to exploit others for his own gain, whereas an individual with “sociopath tendencies” is likely to be somewhat less predictably exploitive in his interpersonal relationships.
In my experience, to identify that you are involved with a partial versus full-blown sociopath is not grounds for optimism. So long as sociopathic tendencies are present, their “quantity” seems to me to matter little. In the end, the individual’s prognosis is the same—hopeless. He is no less treatable or curable for the comparatively inconstant expression of his sociopathy.
In some respects it may be more disconcerting to be involved with a partial sociopath than a full-blown one. This is because the partial sociopath’s seeming capacity to be a “real,” sometimes (if selectively) attached human being can serve as a sort of tease—one finds the seemingly less exploitive aspect of his nature even more confusingly impossible to reconcile with the more exploitive one. One seizes on his capacity for “selective humanity,” misjudging it for his potential for ongoing, reliable empathy and respect for others.
Of course this is a pipe-dream, because the partial sociopath’s capacity for “sensitivity,” perhaps even for certain forms of loyalty, is ever-presently compromised by the underlying tug, and ultimate grip, of his underlying sociopathic orientation. He will inevitably, with utter certainty, drift back into his more exploitive mode and exhibit again, at some point in time, the shocking markers of his sociopathy—his defects of empathy in the context of his audaciously violating behaviors.
I want to stress this very carefully: to the extent that someone has sociopathic tendencies, implying that his sociopathy doesn’t necessarily encompass his “whole character” (as in the case of the full-blown sociopath), this is something like comparing two very dangerous, ultimately untreatable cancerous malignancies—the first hasn’t perhaps “metastasized” fully, but is definitely malignant with absolutely no cure and no chance of meaningful remission; whereas the latter shows perhaps evidence of a global invasion, i.e. “sociopathy run uncontrollably wild.”
I’ve worked for several years with a client I regard as having clear-cut sociopathic tendencies and find her to be among the more baffling clients I’ve worked with. There is the strangest, most jarring mix of humanity in her personality, a capacity for generosity, yet alternating with a historical pattern of cunning, lying behaviors and a chilling capacity to comfortably disown remarkable abdications of responsibility.
She has exhibited these dizzying, confusing qualities in her relationship with me. She has lied to my face countless times and produced fantastic, absurd, and obviously specious explanations for behaviors that someone fully unsociopathic would feel anxious and embarrassed to assert. When confronted with her dissimulation, she conveys (and seems to feel) little to no shame, just the knee-jerk inclination to perpetuate and elaborate the deceptions.
She is opportunistic and someone who has “worked the system” in a variety of unethical ways. Ultimately she lacks either the willingness, or capacity, to truly own the varieties of ethically dubious, sometimes alarmingly irresponsible behaviors that continue to sabotage her otherwise seemingly considerable potential.
She is a complex person, a very attractive and seductive individual, and I believe she possesses a dimension within her characterized by seemingly real generosity. At the same time, she can be shamelessly manipulative and deceptive, and can be “counted on” ultimately to be only “unreliable.” She seems destined to leave those in her life periodically stunned by the betrayal of their faith and trust in her.
She will never change. There is a sociopathic element in her character that I believes explains these patterns and that leaves her, in my view, permanently untrustworthy.
I’m interested in readers’ feedback on this subject.
i had a 18 year stint with first husband spath then extremely spath “rescuer” husband #2. all of which was at least ten years before awareness of these types hit the mainstream….
and at one point i was at work & taking super hits from every direction (primarily due to – yes- spath #2 had also worked there and done his magic destruction of me) so one day i’m just extremely smushed & trying to function & as i walked down this huge bay in this huge factory feeling like “they” were definitely winning this round, i suddenly remembered something my little old granny had told me…
“it’s all in how you hold your mouth”. she said. and so i just tried that. instead of worrying, i just grinned. came off like i had this huge secret & everyone started backing off of me…and anyway, i had discovered as long as i pretended i was winning, it felt like i was winning, and as long as i felt like i was winning, for those few however many minutes, i really was. & that just sort of grew…within me. so i began practicing “winning minutes” & that grew to “winning hours” and pretty soon…all that spath shit sort of fell off my shoulders.
i’m not even saying i was immune to the huge crashes in my life. or the financial and emotional chaos…i’m just saying that i found a sort of light at the end of the tunnel, that feeling was 90% of the winning/losing syndrome, and it helped me loose and escape those bonds. no one can take what god gave you when he gave you life. that is yours. take it with both hands.
(besides, when you’re grinning it absolutely drives the spaths nuts)
Carriesguns
I am sure my spath would be driven nuts if he saw me smiling or grinning in court. Your post goes along with the saying and belief life is 90% perception or attitude and 10% what happens to you. (I know that is not the exact way it’s stated as I stink at remembering quotes or anything at the moment)
I will try anything. It almost sounds like a scary thought. I could see him leap and at’tack if he thought I really had something to grin about. I do know my psycho terrorists mind is his enemy.
One time he tore me apart physically verbally and it was the most vile crap. It pushed me into a different state of mind or rage. I looked at him and calmly said “now would you like me to tell you about all the flaws I see in you?” I said nothing else. It was the most damaging thing I could say I realized later as I am not the type to personally assault someones looks, name call etc. He repeatedly brought up how his mind took over and he hasn’t looked the same in the mirror since! I just thought, well there ya’ go. We are our own biggest critic usually and with them I think it’s way worse due to the narcisistic fact.
Eralyn,
that is so interesting. It has also been my experience that they don’t like to be put under the microscope. Having their flaws pointed out is the most painful thing you can do to them. Even if you do it nicely, it freaks them out.
I’ve observed this in a few spaths.
With one particular spath, I was telling him that I tend to be very blunt and if asked for my opinion, I won’t “be nice” I will simply tell the truth even if it hurts your feelings. I used the example of being asked “Do these pants make my butt look big?” If they do, I will likely say yes.
Well the look on his face was priceless. Previously, I had thought that he was looking like that because he was surprised that I was not as “nice” as he expects his victims to be. But now I’m thinking he was feeling that I was seeing his flaws.
Shame is the feeling of being observed, judged and found lacking. IMO it’s the core of the spath and they live their entire lives trying to deny that shame with shameless behavior.
Skylar,
It was a fluke that I took that route. It had more to do with me being disgusted and seeing him for what he was and not being emotionally attached that I came up with that. I believe left to their own minds it tortured him more than if I’d been specific. He couldn’t shake it. One of those accidental wins. lol
Of course I do look at what he’s done to my life so who knows, maybe that was one of the things that put me in the crosshairs this long though. Scary creeps. His aunt and I discussed how anything you say to him is a double edged sword. Anything…..
“Shame is the feeling of being observed, judged and found lacking”!! That’s something I will never repeat correctly as I show above but I get it! My parents are very shame filled and shameless people. What a horrible feeling. Oh but come to think about it, that quote is exactly what the family courts have done! I am with you about this “core” of the spath and the denial theory. I have lived exactly what you say here.
Steve Becker I found your comments and observations interesting. My prior relationships were somewhat predictable until I met the man that “baffled” me as well. In looking back now I realize this should have been a “red flag”. I no longer believe that the qualities this man possessed: confusing, absurd responses, lying etc. deserve one more ounce of precious energy, since, he, also will never change. I found myself utlimately using my relationship with this sociopath to reveal truths about myself, and unfortunatley it came at a huge price.
I broke the hearts of the people I really loved the most, my parents, siblings and friends. They tell me now that I was “lost” to them, under the control of a manipulative human being who thrived on creating an atmosphere of alienation and drama and who spared no expense toward destroying people. I kept telling people this was MY choice, MY decision for MY life, but that was never true. My relationship impacted everyone around me, and some even tried to take personal responsibility for my mistakes. I was raised in a loving family and exhibited few of the character traits that would point toward this kind of vunerability, only proving that “tendencies” are often enough of a doorway leading to hell. The thought of hearing one person tell my son he is “just like your father” devastated me beyond compare. I would have no credibility whatsoever allowing a person like that in our lives, much less in my heart. I began the painful process of finding myself again, and retracing the steps that led me to this place. Some would say “don’t look back” but I am not one of those people. I intend to look back everyday, and create a new path for those that are behind me. The hardest part is realizing that people are watching me, and now my son is following me, literally. I cannot lead him to a place that I for years now have struggled to get out of, never want to revisit, and wish I never knew people like my husband existed. I loved this phrase a wise friend said to me. “The only thing worse than being alone is wishing you were”.
Hi to you too, Skylar….hope you are conceptualizing a new article for your site.
Pearlsbeforeswine….you sound clear, able, and willing. I love that you wrote “I intend to look back everyday, and create a new path for those that are behind me’. Bravo!
As for the core of shame these personalities experience, that they so remarkably avoid awareness of, and project onto the world. The last spath I was involved with looked postively shocked and turned red in the face when I was even the most softly and gently observant of his short comings. Then, within a short period, he would ‘act out’, manipulating his circumstances, and other people, in order to put me in my place and attempt to hurt me ‘back’.
It takes strength, bravery, and courage to see ourselves and change. He lacked these abilities. He could only create more of his manipulative illusions to soothe himself.
Dear Pearlsbeforeswine,
Quote: “The only thing worse than being alone is wishing you were”.
AIN’T THAT THE EVER LIVIN’ TRUTH!!!!!
Call me a skeptic, but I think that what the author is perceiving is not the difference between a “partial” psychopath and a “full blown” psychopath, he is experiencing the difference between a “successful” psychopath and an “unsuccessful” psychopath.
The successful psychopaths are the ones who can appear normal and human (aka, seem to possess empathy, altruism and compassion) when they want to (when it serves their purposes) so that they may more easily and smoothly exploit others.
The successful psychopaths are the ones with a lot of personal attractiveness and sexual appeal (they can blind you with their attractiveness), plus a lot of charisma, intelligence, and ambition. Successful psychopaths seem to wind up as the magical, golden people in whatever career they’re pursuing. They’re the “Rebecca” in their sphere of influence. (“Rebecca” was a literary and film character described as “the most beautiful woman in the world” who to all outside appearances was the perfect wife, but who was actually a sadistic, psychopathic monster bent on destroying her husband’s sanity. The movie “Gaslight” features the male version, a sadistic psychopath whose goal is to drive his naive young bride insane so he can have her committed and gain sole possession of her house.)
The unsuccessful psychopaths simply aren’t as good at hiding in plain sight; they let their true feelings and motives show too often or to the wrong person. Perhaps they’re just not attractive, charming and intelligent enough, or are too blatantly ambitious and greedy.
Its the successful psychopaths that are the most dangerous, because they ARE good at hiding in plain sight.
Pearlsbeforewine,
I agree with your words of wisdom. Our offspring are watching us and we are to lead them.
It would be devastating to watch my daughter follow the path I walked. I have always told her a parent is not perfect and if there are things you don’t like that I have done raising you, then you have the right and should do better than I with your children. This is all we can expect. Do better than our parents did and hope our children learn and do better than we did. To me we have then succeeded. Nobody does it all perfectly.
I hope positive comes from those things I could not control in our lives and I believe they will. I have been told by a few people my daughter may have learned a very good lesson from all of this and that is there are spaths out there and know it. GREY ROCK. Compliments of Skylar.
@Babs94540
I think your comment is spot on. I’m not familiar with “Rebecca”, will have to look that up.
There are far too many prevailing myths about predatory disordered people. Generally, society rails against the ‘unsuccessful’ ones, as you pointed out, but generally lines up behind the ‘successful’ ones. We ourselves contribute to this problem by concentrating on the unsuccessful (&/or trendy) psychopaths/sociopaths (and allowing ourselves to use default terminology and cliches to refer to them as the ‘norm’ and therefore the definition) .
BTW, my definition of ‘successful’ psychopaths include the ones who are able to exploit those myths and lead mobs (WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE) whose goal is to divide and harm others, rather than join together and contribute to the greater good. They are the ones who, as you say, are able to ‘hide in plain sight’, and even when called on their behaviours, as in this post by Steve, are still able to take advantage of the benefit of doubt, when others in the same place wouldn’t be able to take the same advantage.
@Steve Becker,
Don’t know if you’ll see this comment buried way down in the thread, but thank you Steve for putting the ‘gender’ disclaimer up front. I mean this respectfully – I’m not so good at soft-shoeing – I still think that you’re speaking from a biased and uninformed POV, but I appreciate the modification.