Recently, a reporter was inquiring about people who live double lives. Why do they do it? Can they maintain double lives for a long time? What are the dangers?
Like most of us at Lovefraud, I have some experience with this. My ex-husband, James Montgomery, cheated with at least six different women during our 2.5-year marriage. He had a child with one of the women. Ten days after I left him, he married the mother of the child, which was the second time he committed bigamy. And of course, he took a quarter-million dollars from me—spending much of the money entertaining these other women.
Not everyone who lives a double life is a sociopath. Some people, like spies and undercover cops, are doing their jobs. But for all those people who don’t have a legitimate reason for creating an alternate existence—why do they do it?
Exploitation
Sociopaths are social predators who live their lives by exploiting others. When sociopaths live double lives, the prime reason is probably because it enables them to exploit multiple people simultaneously.
This is especially true of the parasites that sponge off of their romantic partners. I’ve heard of many, many cases in which sociopaths, both male and female, are involved with two, three or even more romantic relationships at once, and taking from all of their partners—money, sex, cars, entertainment, whatever. Essentially the sociopaths are looking for supply, and the more sources of supply they have, the better.
Promiscuity
Another reason for double lives is the promiscuity of sociopaths. Most sociopaths have a high appetite for sex, amazing stamina, and get bored easily. Consequently, what they really want in their sex lives is variety. So they hook up with a variety of people, in a variety of places, and engage in a variety of sex acts.
Often, however, the sociopaths’ sexual partners do not share these wide-ranging proclivities. But the sociopaths don’t bother to tell the truth about what they’re doing. The sociopaths simply pursue their sexual agendas with multiple people, but keep everyone separate. Sometimes this involves elaborate ruses and manipulation.
Thrill of the game
This leads to another point—many sociopaths simply love the game. They love getting over on people—one expert called this “duping delight.”
For example, one night shortly after we were engaged, my ex-husband came to visit me. He was driving a strange car. When I asked him whose car it was, he told me an elaborate story about it belonging to a military buddy. The truth was that he had another woman staying with him for a week, and he drove her car to my house. I don’t know what reason he gave her for taking her car, but whatever it was, it was unnecessary. He could have driven his own car. I believe Montgomery just wanted to take her car to visit me for the thrill of getting over on both of us.
I’ve heard of other cases like this. A woman brought one man that she was dating to a trade association dinner in which another man she was dating was being presented with an award. Why? For the fun of seeing one guy squirm, and the other guy clueless.
Mask of normalcy
Finally, some sociopaths hold a job, have a family, maintain a house and go to church to provide cover for their true pursuits—sex, drugs, crime and perhaps even murder. This is how some famous serial killers operated, such as Dennis Lynn Rader, the BTK killer. He worked, was a church deacon, and killed 10 people. His wife of 34 years never knew of his desire to “bind, torture and kill.”
Even when they aren’t killers, many sociopaths establish “normal” lives to make it easier to pursue their exploitative interests. Some sociopaths are also extremely concerned about their image. They want to keep their places in society, and having a spouse, family, job and a hot car all contribute to their status.
In answer to one of the questions at the beginning of this article, many sociopaths can, indeed, maintain the double lives for many, many years. I’ve heard from plenty of women who were married 10, 20, 25 years—and then were shocked to discover what their husbands were doing throughout their entire marriage.
Dangers of the double lives
Yes, I suppose some sociopaths face danger because of their double lives—but honestly, I’m not overly concerned about them.
But the dangers to unknowing partners are serious. Sociopaths bleed their partners of money to fund their extracurricular activities. As I reported in my new book, Red Flags of Love Fraud—10 signs you’re dating a sociopath, 20 percent of Lovefraud survey respondents said that their sociopathic partners infected them with sexually transmitted diseases. In this blog, I’ve reported at least two cases of men who were convicted of knowingly transmitting HIV to unknowing sex partners.
But even when partners aren’t physically harmed by the double lives of sociopaths, the psychological damage of betrayal is profound. Discovery of the truth leads to two kinds of shock: The shock at the callous actions of the sociopath, and the personal shock that the partner was totally in the dark.
Recovery, for the targets, can be long and difficult. In the meantime, the sociopaths simply move on to another life.
Ox;
“Another part of the problem too, is that some of the “experts” are so dense that they cannot recognize a psychopath unless it is in prison stripes”
This is why there needs to be a distinction. In grad school, I studied biomedical engineering. I did all the course work and started thesis research but never completed the degree when I landed a consulting position and then a full-time job.
My undergraduate degree is EE and I also have a MS, Engineering Management. I have met a lot of professors in my life and IMHO, those in medical sciences are the most narcissistic. They simply will not accept the thoughts and observations of anyone they do not consider a peer.
As a secondary option for me, I have petitioned my school to grant me a degree, as in 2006 they changed the requirements to non-thesis. The issue is that my ten-year window ended in 2007. My point is simply that had i known in 2006, they would have given me the degree…
No answer yet, but this is going to be fun…
This should lighten everyone’s day:
The first time a counselor mentioned “antisocial” behavioral disorder to me, I did not understand exactly what she was talking about. That was 7-8 years and much research ago. I personally think the word “psychopath” should not be used to describe sociopaths; the terms are not interchangeable. And another question: Is a sociopath always narcissistic (seems so) but a narcissist is not necessarily a sociopath.. correct?
By the way, one of the best books I read on the topic is “Help! I’m in Love with a Narcissist.”
hurt95;
I agree 100% that there are sociopaths and psychopaths. In my book, they are distinguished by their level of overt violence. At the very least, the DSM criteria must consider white collar crime par with violent crime. Hence Madoff and now Jon Corzine (whom I once respected his mask was so good) would be universally considered psychopaths.
Most sociopaths are more narcissistic than normal individuals. However, they may not recognize such in themselves. Take this gem from one of my x-spath’s online profiles:
“Looking for somebody that is good for me. Narcissists need not apply.”
BBE,
Or the ex recognized that as a narcissist he needs an enabler, and not another narcissist? 😉
This is interesting from Wiki:
“Hare wants the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders to list psychopathy as a unique disorder, saying psychopathy has no precise equivalent[2] in either the DSM-IV-TR, where it is most strongly correlated with the diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder, or the ICD-10, which has a partly similar condition called dissocial personality disorder. Both organizations view the terms as synonymous. But only a minority of those in institutions who Hare and his followers would diagnose as psychopaths are violent offenders.”
Has Donna ever had any correspondence with Dr. Hare?
Those are interesting distinctions! I suppose it also makes sense to say an individual may be the extreme end of the continuum (or spectrum) while another may be much less so.
How is everyone doing with the No Contact? Over ten years I have gone into No Contact with mine at least a half dozen times, only to break it. This time truly does feel different since I blocked all of his phone numbers and email addresses. Feels like I am taking shelter in a big fort with layers of protection around me, and that is a good feeling. There is no up side to being in contact with him anymore.
I used to get my “fix” and it was fun to chat occasionally because he is a great conversationalist. BUT eventually I would end up feeling hurt in some way. When I would say to him that I could not be in touch because I was getting hurt too much, he would sometimes respond, “I know” in a patronizing way. Looking back, that is so weird, so abnormal.
I KNOW?? Ick.
No contact for me? NOT A PROBLEM!!!! 😀
I never want to hear the exspath’s voice for the rest of my life. With the news that I got this morning (car is finally assigned for repossession and my banking account has been locked as per said repo) I must recall the response of the exspath’s attorney to our plea to either catch the vehicle up to date, or trade vehicles (and, I quote): “Tell her to do what everyone else who doesn’t pay their bills does and hide it in the backyard.”
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!
As for the terms and concepts of “sociopaths versus psychopaths” the experts and the DSMs don’t agree on either term so as far as that goes NEITHER sociopaths or psychopaths EXIST because they have not been clinically DEFINED. LOL 🙂 Since the DSM is the “bible” of psychological definitions (a horse designed by a committee) Anti social personality disorder is the closest thing there is to what WE as victims refer to as sociopaths or psychopaths, and WE are NOT qualified to “define” either. Even the PhDs who study them are studying (technically) something that doesn’t technically “exist” since it is not defined in the DSMs.
Dr. Hare calls it Psychopath. Others call it Sociopath=psychopath but prefer the term, others seem to think a sociopath is different from a psychopath…but none of them are clinical definitons, and even Dr. Hare (who I respect mightily) isn’t qualified to “define” the disorder alone (according to the DSM)
His definitions and name (psychopath) was shot down by the concensus of the “committee” for the DSM because of the egos (in my opinion) of many of the committee members. However his PCL-R is legally accepted as the check list defining “psychopath” in cases where there are serial killers etc.
Not every PhD of course is so narcissistic that they consider themselves and expert in everything, but unfortunately many are. At the time the DSM-V was made, Hare was THE premier researcher on the condition that we and he call “psychopath.” He did not make a distinction between a sociopath and a malignant narcissist or anything else. He simply calls everyone that qualifies a “psychopath”
Of course there are LEVELS of “psychopath” and you could chart them on a BELL CURVE the way Dr. Baron-cohen charted empathy on a bell curve. Some have it, some have none and some have too much, just like on the IQ scale goes on the bell curve with most people landing in the big hump of the middle and a few being on either end.
I would bet that if you charted the empathy levels of victims we would probably rank in the high end of the curve just as the abusers rank in the lower end of the curve and most people in the middle with plenty of empathy don’t even want to think about others having NO empathy.
Each of us here at LoveFraud may have a “favorite” term, Donna’s is “sociopath” because it is not equated by the general public as being so much “serial killer” as Psychopath has been distinguished in the popular media as equaling a serial killer.
Anti social personality disorder to me sounds like a guy who is a HERMIT and dosn’t like cocktail parties, therefore is anti-social. LOL To a professional however, it describes someone who is not socialized to the way normal people behave, thus “anti social” and personality disorder is defined as a set of values that is stable. They are not going to change, though some “professionals” do think they can be “helped” with some kinds of therapy. So there is a big wide range of beliefs even among “professionals” and PhDs.
BBE:
This is in response to your “Treatment Approach” post:
I won’t do any of the drugs. No way. I have heard and seen way, way too much about these drugs. So many times they cause more harm than help. Sorry, I know some people on here have a different opinion, but I know what I know and I will not take any hard drugs like that. Now, I have taken Prozac and Lexapro in the past and took them both for VERY SHORT periods of time, but that is about as far as I will go with psychotropic drugs.
See my responses in caps below:
No caffeine, or at the most green tea (or any tea) only in the AM. Teas have much less caffeine than coffee and these also contain l-Theanine which is calming. I find too much caffeine makes my mind race. I ONLY DRINK TEA AND TONS OF IT AND I ONLY DRINK IT IN THE AM. OCCASSIONALLY I WILL HAVE A CHAI IN THE AFTERNOON, BUT NOT OFTEN. NO COFFEE, NO SODAS FOR ME.
No refined sugars. In Bipolar individuals, sweets are known to trigger mood swings, so much so that a glucose tolerance test is sometimes used to confirm a diagnosis. – WOW, THIS MAY BE A PROBLEM FOR ME. I LOVE SUGAR AND EAT A LOT OF CANDY. MOST OF THE TIME I WILL JUST EAT CANDY INSTEAD OF A MEAL…HEY, WHAT CAN I SAY, I AM A SINGLE GIRL! HMMMM, PROBABLY WHY I HAVE MOOD SWINGS…HAHA!!
No alcohol. I admit this has been a problem for me. Not that I drink heavily anymore but still do in social situations. In addition, alcohol makes you forget for a while too but when it wears off, obsessive thoughts not only return but are magnified. – I RARELY DRINK ANYMORE AS I FOUND OUT THAT IF I DRINK I JUST CRY. AFTER ALL, ALCOHOL IS A DEPRESSANT. I WAS ONLY EVER A SOCIAL DRINKER AND SOMETIMES NOT EVEN THAT, BUT WHEN I WAS SEEING SPATH, I STARTED DRINKING A LOT BECAUSE HE IS PRETTY MUCH AN ALCOHOLIC SO ANYTIME I WAS AROUND HIM, I WOULD DRINK. NOW, I DON’T DRINK AT ALL REALLY. I STOPPED WHEN I REALIZED IT WOULD ONLY MAKE ME DEPRESSED AND THINK OF HIM. A FEW WEEKS AGO I WENT OUT WITH A GIRLFRIEND FOR MEXICAN FOOD AND SHE COULDN’T BELIEVE I WASN’T GOING TO HAVE A MARGARITA WITH HER! I SAID, SORRY, BUT I JUST CAN’T DO IT. I AM PROUD OF MYSELF TO HAVE REALIZED WHAT TRIGGERS ME AND AM AVOIDING IT.
Exercise ”“ not only does it make you feel good, but it blunts the body’s response to cortisol under non-exercise stress conditions. – I WORK OUT FIVE DAYS A WEEK AND AM A SIZE 2-4, SO I HAVE NO WORRIES HERE…THANK GOD. IT’S ABOUT THE ONLY THING I HAVE GOING FOR ME IN MY LIFE SO I HAVE TO CLING TO THIS ONE GOOD THING. PLUS, WITH ALL THAT CANDY I EAT, I HAVE TO EXERCISE ALL THE TIME 🙂
Insomnia. Eliminating caffeine, refined sugars and alcohol will help in the long run. Good sleep-promoting habits are essential. These include going to bed and getting up at the same time, sleeping in a dark, quiet room, comfortable bed. I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS, BUT IT’S REALLY ONLY BECAUSE I DON’T TURN EVERYTHING OFF AND MAKE MYSELF GO TO SLEEP. IF I AM ON VACATION OR AT MY MOM’S HOUSE, I HAVE NO PROBLEM JUST GOING TO BED AND SLEEPING ALL NIGHT.
Computer screens are very stimulating as light emitted tends to be blue-spectrum. So, we can’t sleep and get on the computer. This is as bad as taking a cup of coffee. I cannot underscore the importance of staying off a computer at late hours. At the very least, get amber colored glasses to block the blue light. If you think this is hokie, look it up. YEP, THIS IS A PROBLEM FOR ME. I GET OVER STIMULATED BY THE COMPUTER AND CAN STAY UP HALF THE NIGHT. I ALSO HAVE THE TV ON ALL NIGHT. WHEN I JUST GET OFF THE COMPUTER AND PUT THE SLEEP TIMER ON THE TV AND TURN OUT THE LIGHT, I CAN SLEEP ALL NIGHT. I JUST NEED TO CHANGE MY HABITS, BUT AS WE ALL KNOW, IT’S VERY HARD TO BREAK HABITS.