Aren’t you getting sick of hearing about all these politicians and other powerful people who can’t control themselves? Are you wondering if they are all just sociopaths? Are all sex addicts also sociopaths?
In the wake of my own dismay at the sheer number of sex crazed politicians, I wanted to share some thoughts with you.
First of all, one of the psychopathy researchers I respect the most is Dr. Grant Harris. He has written a seminal paper COERCIVE AND PRECOCIOUS SEXUALITY AS A FUNDAMENTAL ASPECT OF PSYCHOPATHY He says that promiscuous, coercive and precocious sex is central to the psychopathy syndrome. However, if you look at the statistics on the PCL-R the most studied method of assessing psychopathy, the two items related to sex have the lowest item correlations with the total score and do not even seem to be related strongly to Factor 2 of that test which is a measure of impulsivity. So there doesn’t seem to be a particularly strong relationship between psychopathy and sex addiction. By that I mean not every sociopath/psychopath is obviously a sex addict.
In his book The Mask of Sanity, Hervey Cleckley commented that “impersonal sex” is part of the syndrome. He also noted though that psychopaths didn’t seem to like sex all that much. Many victims I have interviewed have mentioned that. Sociopaths seem to view sex as a weapon to be used on another person or withheld from another person to hurt them.
As Donna pointed out earlier in the week, there is a strong link between sex motivation and the perception of power; there is also a link between a person’s drive for power and their drive for sex that may be related to testosterone.
When I think about Arnold, Anthony, Elliott and Bill, what I find most striking is their ability to do what I would call dissociate because I can’t think of another word for it. In the moment they are conceiving, tweeting, meeting in the hotel or messing on a dress, thoughts about their families and all of us seem to be completely gone from their minds.
Another great thinker about psychopathy is Robert Reiber, Ph.D. who I had the good fortune to chat with about this very topic in person several years ago. He thinks that this ability to dissociate is what makes a psychopath. When I asked him what he thought about the idea that psychopaths are “without conscience.” He replied, “Of course they have a conscience.” He thinks though they have an uncanny ability to dissociate from their conscience and their memories.
Neither the ideas of Harris nor Reiber bode well for our politicians. But I have learned a lesson from my dogs that might be useful here.
My daughter and I have three Ibizan Hounds, they are sight hounds who also have this uncanny ability to dissociate. When they are hunting small prey they become so focused on the moment they forget we are there and run off. We have been able to prevent this from happening through the use of training collars. We very much wanted them to be able to run free in the woods, so we had to figure out a safe way to get them to come back. They easily learned to come to us to avoid a mild shock that the collars deliver via a remote that has a one mile range. There is also a vibrate button, so after the dogs were trained, the warning vibration is all that is needed. But I have noticed that when they wear the collars they do not become as engrossed in the hunt and they readily come back to my voice. Without the collars, I can be shouting right next to them and they don’t hear me.
So the answer is simple, politicians should wear the collar, and their spouses can keep the remote!
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LOL!
One Joy you must’ve had a good day, you’re being such a smart ass tonight.
Ana, thanks for contextualizing my sense of revenge. 🙂
SKy – i was thinking the same thing. 🙂
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Hehehehehe……………you ARE being a smart ass LOL!
I hope this means you’re on top of your game now 🙂
Feelin better!
LL
((((hi LL)))) – since we last posted to one another, definitely. in bed with my ice packs popcorn and comedy special because my movie download crashed. lots of quiet and garden time today, and went out last night. feel normalish. and feisty by all accounts.
and you dear LL?
when my spath was 7 his dads sister raped him. She forced him to preform things on her. Did he not feel shame or guilt later in life? He was molested alot by family members.Does this help to form them into spaths? Does it have no bearing,do they not have feelings of shame at 7?
mommom – are you certain that these reports are true?
mommom,
From what I understand, they don’t conclusively know what causes sociopathy. Your spaths childhood was a nightmare, but others have similar nightmares and do not end that way. They only know that once they are spath, they have different brains, different thinking, and possibly it is genetic disposition that can be altered depending on the parenting, OR no matter what the parent did, they grew up spath b/c they gravitated towards those situations that developed the spath characteristics.
I understand your need to figure WHY he is that way, but NO ONE knows so that’s a futile search. Best to know what he is NOW, so you can accept your reality and move on to GREAT emotional health, self care, and well being.
I am very sympathetic b/c I did obsess in trying to understand what was being done to me b/c it was so much NONSENSE and crazyness and I thought I did it to myself. I learned how a tiny grain of truth was used to manipulate me.
Just saying… I understand all your circullar thinking and ruminations, but I didn’t have anyone to advise or help me. If I had, I’d follow my own advice: focus on what you need to get better. Don’t chase after unanswerable crazyiness. HE IS WHAT HE IS. Know that if you find yourself in circular thinking, it is most likely b/c you don’t like the answer so you keep trying to find a different answer.
Mommom,
Just an aside about child rape. How old was the sister? Siblings frequently do to their younger sibs what was done to them… Unless she was an adult, it’s not rape. It’s terrible tragedy.
one step
if ya didn’t get to see the movie, do ya wanna know how true grit turns out? 🙂