Aren’t you getting sick of hearing about all these politicians and other powerful people who can’t control themselves? Are you wondering if they are all just sociopaths? Are all sex addicts also sociopaths?
In the wake of my own dismay at the sheer number of sex crazed politicians, I wanted to share some thoughts with you.
First of all, one of the psychopathy researchers I respect the most is Dr. Grant Harris. He has written a seminal paper COERCIVE AND PRECOCIOUS SEXUALITY AS A FUNDAMENTAL ASPECT OF PSYCHOPATHY He says that promiscuous, coercive and precocious sex is central to the psychopathy syndrome. However, if you look at the statistics on the PCL-R the most studied method of assessing psychopathy, the two items related to sex have the lowest item correlations with the total score and do not even seem to be related strongly to Factor 2 of that test which is a measure of impulsivity. So there doesn’t seem to be a particularly strong relationship between psychopathy and sex addiction. By that I mean not every sociopath/psychopath is obviously a sex addict.
In his book The Mask of Sanity, Hervey Cleckley commented that “impersonal sex” is part of the syndrome. He also noted though that psychopaths didn’t seem to like sex all that much. Many victims I have interviewed have mentioned that. Sociopaths seem to view sex as a weapon to be used on another person or withheld from another person to hurt them.
As Donna pointed out earlier in the week, there is a strong link between sex motivation and the perception of power; there is also a link between a person’s drive for power and their drive for sex that may be related to testosterone.
When I think about Arnold, Anthony, Elliott and Bill, what I find most striking is their ability to do what I would call dissociate because I can’t think of another word for it. In the moment they are conceiving, tweeting, meeting in the hotel or messing on a dress, thoughts about their families and all of us seem to be completely gone from their minds.
Another great thinker about psychopathy is Robert Reiber, Ph.D. who I had the good fortune to chat with about this very topic in person several years ago. He thinks that this ability to dissociate is what makes a psychopath. When I asked him what he thought about the idea that psychopaths are “without conscience.” He replied, “Of course they have a conscience.” He thinks though they have an uncanny ability to dissociate from their conscience and their memories.
Neither the ideas of Harris nor Reiber bode well for our politicians. But I have learned a lesson from my dogs that might be useful here.
My daughter and I have three Ibizan Hounds, they are sight hounds who also have this uncanny ability to dissociate. When they are hunting small prey they become so focused on the moment they forget we are there and run off. We have been able to prevent this from happening through the use of training collars. We very much wanted them to be able to run free in the woods, so we had to figure out a safe way to get them to come back. They easily learned to come to us to avoid a mild shock that the collars deliver via a remote that has a one mile range. There is also a vibrate button, so after the dogs were trained, the warning vibration is all that is needed. But I have noticed that when they wear the collars they do not become as engrossed in the hunt and they readily come back to my voice. Without the collars, I can be shouting right next to them and they don’t hear me.
So the answer is simple, politicians should wear the collar, and their spouses can keep the remote!
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and so is your fibbery!!! 🙂
Or was that fibberyness.
ROTFRLMAO SNORT CHOKE SNARK!!!!! Gosh you guys are taking that one and running with it aren’t you!
Yea, shock therapy would for for a lot of bad behavior I think! Problem is dogs are smarter than a lot of psychopaths though! But even dogs learn that if there is no collar on them there can’t be a shock, so you at least have to have a “dummy” collar on them to make them respond.
Now you guys behave, don’t make an old woman loose control of her bladder laughing! (((hugs)))
Hey Ox – I find Tena Lady works just fine for those……..female moments!!!
I once asked spath to share his past with me and he said ‘if you could see what is in my head it would scare you’. This was in the early stage. Didn’t realise it at the time but he MEANT it.
Had another aha moment today. Realised he only saw his daughter til the age of 4…..guess he went back to prison at that point because there was a gap in his story from age 24 – 30.
He also said that he’d been taken in handcuffs by plane to his country for a driving offence. Well DING DONG I think this was to take him to court and jail.
I’ve had so much clarity lately. Yet another piece to the puzzle.
You know what? I don’t think my X spath really liked sex either even though he portrayed that he did and was chasing every skirt that walked (if that makes any sense). And now looking back, I wonder if he was just turning everything around. He told me that his wife didn’t like sex (I wonder now if it was HIM who really didn’t like it). Then he had told me that after she had their second child, she just didn’t want to have sex with him anymore. Again, I wonder if it was him who didn’t want sex anymore after that…saw her as a mother now and not a sexual wife. It’s possible since I have found these lying manipulators will tell you something that is just the opposite of what happened. They love to “turn things around.”
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Eb, I for one believe that spaths are impotent and need new sexual partners to arouse their interest.
I believe after a time they can no longer arouse excitement and must move on to a new partner in order to get it up!
As for the politician scandal’s lately I believe some of them may be sociopaths or sex driven but has anyone ever taken on the belief that maybe they’re being set-up?
Maybe these guys are just normal red-blooded guys and another politician, perhaps a “sociopath” is setting them up to take a fall so they get knocked out of the game.
This thought has occurred to me. Let’s face it politics can be a dirty game.
Joanie:
I am so glad you said this about spaths being impotent. As highly sexually charged as my X spath SEEMED to be, I suspected as such last year at one point. I think he took an ED drug the first night we were ever together because no man in his 40s can do it that many times without a recovery period. And what an excellent insight about needing new, exciting partners! I think I saw that happen right in front of my eyes. The first time it was like he couldn’t get enough, but by the 3rd or 4th time we were intimate, the urgency just wasn’t there anymore. Come on!!! That shouldn’t go away after 3 dates!!!! A “normal” man still would have been crazy interested. One thing that was a big tip off to me that something was wrong was the last time we ever met. I really wanted him and he knew it and he just left! Looking back, I truly think it’s because he knew he wouldn’t be able to perform because he hadn’t taken his ED drug and didn’t have it with him. Geez. Sigh.
As far as the politicians, I don’t have any insight into that unfortunately.
The ability to do immoral things and still believe you love your wife: I think the word is COMPARTMENTALIZATION.
I know of a few men that are all about the pursuit, once they have conquered they lose interest, so on to the next pursuit and the next and the next, never caring about the emotional damage they have left behind, it’s a sickness of some kind, dont know if that makes em spath or not but there are men out there like that everywhere, I have a nephew that does this, he is a classic Narcissist just like his father. Always in the pursuit of some ‘strange.’ They love the challenge, I am sure it’s all about power and an inability to love.