Sociopaths rarely go forward with their lives with reliable, sustainable momentum; at best, they may zig-zag for a while with the good (and bad) luck of a gambler; or go sidways for a while, “seeming” to hold it together.
But eventually, the sociopath tends to go backwards. He is much like the person on a high-speed treadmill who, no mattter how hard he or she walks or runs, finds himself, sooner or later, drifting off the end of the machine.
His disordered lack of empathy, detachment from others, detachment from an emotional connection to the world that keeps the rest of us on fairly solid ground, giving us at least a chance to hit solid ground, and hit it running—the sociopath is missing this connection, and thus makes no consistent, sturdy contact with solid ground; his traction, ultimately, is tenuous and illusory.
The sociopath may “look” like he’s making progress (especially if progress is defined as his profiting, in some fashion, from his disrespect or abuse of others’ trust and vulnerability); in the end, however, his progress will be as superficial and unreliable as he is—finally, certainly in the vast majority of cases, he just makes messes of his own and others’ lives.
For this reason I don’t regard sociopaths—even so-called really sharp, predatory sociopaths—as generally very “smart” individuals. Most of them, as I’ve written elsewhere, and stress here again, are just “mess makers.”
Many end up in jail, and those who don’t, when they aren’t sowing havoc, are usually courting disaster and, at some point or other, almost always finding it.
Even the smoothest, most effectively calculating sociopaths, even allowing for those who are never apprehended–even these sociopaths lack the capacities that make for a life worth counting: the capacity, for instance, to love; give from the heart; sacrifice for others; and be counted-on in “crunch time” (which is to say, during times of real personal inconvenience).
The sociopathic individual doesn’t genuinely relish these experiences, although he may, as we know, mimic them superficially (and sometimes convincingly); but he doesn’t derive the pleasure to be experienced from a genuine investment in them.
His view of the world is not unlike the immature child’s who, on halloween night, approaching a bowl of candy left on a stoop, where the code of integrity is implicit (take one or two candy bars), instead grabs a fistful of candy, stuffing his pillow case with it.
The child then feels a bit giddy over his caper, heedless that, in the process of enriching himself, he has selfishly deprived other children of candy and, at the same time, violated the homeowner who risked trusting in his basic sense of fairness and respect.
It’s possible that this child on halloween may make his “grab” in a more impulsive, less calculating, fashion; or, he may have plotted his “grab,” and then executed it from house to house, even before putting his “costume” on at home, prior to hitting the streets.
In either case, take his mentality and now watch it never evolve, even as the boy grows into a man, and there you have it—an adult who thinks, and acts, like a sociopath”¦that is, a sociopath.
The forms of corruption and violation his personality can later express are many, but the underlying mentality is the sociopath’s. And it dooms him, in the end, to a troubled, troubling and unfulfilled life.
(This article is copyrighted (c) 2011 by Steve Becker, LCSW. My use of male gender pronouns is strictly for convenience’s sake and not to suggest that females aren’t capable of the behaviors discussed.)
Dear Hope2,
The main thing you can do is to keep out of the DRAMA-RAMA no matter who is causing it….
It is amazing just how much people seem to want to interject themselves into a situation that is NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS.
The thing is too, you can set some boundaries with DNA donor, just like you did today….not let her get any information and if she comes out directly and says anything you can tell her, “Donor, this really is between me and my husband” just be blunt about it. She will be “oh, I was just trying to helpl” and you say “thank you, Donor, but this is between me and my husband” and just rinse and repeat and rinse and repeat. Of course she will be “offended” but what the heck do you care, really?
I think staying home is probably a good idea, too…the less interaction you have with the P you are probably better off. And maybe without you there she won’t throw so much of a fit for “your” benefit. LOL
Good luck to you and just keep your head on straight and don’t allow others to play games. I am 110% better since I am not allowing my egg donor to manipulate me and play her games.
Dear Oxy ~ Thanks much for the input. For my part in dealing with DNA donor… I guess I need to go back to the way I dealt with her when I was young. Stonewall her when she asks too many questions. For instance, when she asked how so and so behaved at work that day, I’d just say “I dunno, I was too busy to notice”. Or something along that line.
Our relationship changed when my dad got sick. He was diagnosed with lung cancer about a year before he died. Once he was gone, DNA donor female began treating me as more of a “friend” rather than daughter. Silly me, I actually believed that act for awhile. I think I excused some of her manipulative behavior as part of her grief over the loss of her husband. No more. He’s been gone now for almost 12 years. She gets no more passes from me!!
I will be damned if I will let her destroy the best thing that’s happened to me in my life.
My husband R has been truly a godsend. He’s been manipulated by 4 older sisters growing up, then Ex spath since then. He’s come a long way in our time together. He is much better at standing up for himself now, and does not let exP push him around as much. I give him “pep-talks” each time he has to speak to her, reminding him to remember that gray rock… she’s no more important than a plastic potted plant.
I’m very glad that you’re doing so well with your egg donor. You are truly an inspiration to me. (((hugs)))
Thank you all who replied to my post. Thank you for the book recommendation, I will be getting that!
I talked to her when she got home from her game tonight. I told her I was looking for my tweezers she borrowed from me,and that we needed to talk. She admitted that she wrote that letter last night. She welled up with tears. I started to cry. She said that she has “tried” to get away from him, but he wont leave her alone. She feels “sorry for him”…I went over my ex spath, explained to her about feelings, not needing a “boy” to make you feel like you are worth while. She cried when I told her she was beautiful, which I tell her all the time. She started sobbing. Said she didn’t want to hear that-that she wasn’t. It broke my heart. I can see that this boy has knocked her down so low that she has no idea what she is worth. I have much building up to do with her. I wont let this boy take away her youth, dignity, or self respect/worth. I now have a new focus past my own…showing my daughter that she is worth so much more, like she always preached to me. It’s so much easier to judge someone else (and their choice in partners)-isn’t it?
Dear Findingmyself: I missed your post earlier due to my own issue that I’m working on.
I am glad that you found that letter your daughter wrote. I believe that it happened for a reason. So that you can help her. I know that many times, the more the parent talks against the bf, the more the girl will go to him. Maybe it would help to remind her of the things that she disliked about your ex and the way he treated you. Maybe she will make the connection. Yes, it’s always easier to see from the outside looking in.
Good luck to you. Take care of you both.
finding,
I’m so glad you talked to her.
DO get the book and DO get other books, she will see that your wisdom is NOT just opinion or a protective mechanism on your part. She will see the truth because kids can see it better than adults can. Get her the information and education she needs.
Dear Finding,
Get her into counseling ASAP if at all possible. Can’t remember how old she is, if she is in college or HS there is a counselor on staff, contact them as a start…let her know you are doing so though so she won’t be blind sided and feel you betrayed her. Good Job!!!!
Findingmyself –
You did a brilliant job in spotting her distress – FIGHT for her. It’s you or spath. Think of the lioness when her cub is threatened – FIGHT because her life may depend on it.
Working together (you and your daughter) can do it and she can go on to have a wonderful, glorious, happy life. Good luck:)
I dated a sociopath for one year. we took vacations together and went out every week for our usual date time. We made plans to marry and I was soooo happy. Then one day I saw he was on the internet to marry someone else after I gave thousands of dollars for us and adventures he wanted to do. Rev. Kenneth Mitchem of Bethel A.M.E. Church of Asbury Park, NJ is a sociopath. He lies, steals and cheats any woman who will let him. I fell in love believing his lies and the next thing I know he wont pay me back the $ I gave him or just clear the air. I gave him money for his travels, for child support and even to run for Bishop. He never paid me back. I wanted to kill myself it hurt so bad but then I thought about it he is not worth the —- he lets out. Shortly after ward his wife #2 was complaining and crying too because he took her money beat her and her daughter and left them. Wife #1 had already been publicly humiliated because he did it publicly to her. He had hoes everywhere, she said. He even had a baby outside of thier marriage and told everyone else he never cheated. He convinced me that everybody was just hurting him and he was never wrong. I believed it too until when I asked him for my money back he started telling everyone the same thing about me. He never did anything wrong to the long, long, long list of women he f—ed and took their money and messed up their emotions. And he’s a pastor in the A.M.E. Church. I’m glad I never have to be a part of that organization. I have no respect for any of them. I wrote the bishop in charge of him and he wouldn’t do anything about Rev. Kenneth Mitchem either. There are six other women I know that have gone through the same thing. I have a judgement from the court now and he wont pay me. I hate what psychopaths/sociopaths do to people. I dont think I will ever trust a man or minister again.
Hurtinglady: Wow! So many post and sites talk about spaths being religious leaders and politicians. It makes you wonder who is and who isnt. I dont even want to date after my experience or trust another man again. I keep adking God why this had to happen to me. I definitely feel your pain. Keep posting here, it helps a lil.
And Spaths do go backwards. The last convo I had with my spath before NC he was bragging about how great his life was now, “like night and day” since we had broken up. Ha! It had only been a week. He is just fucking more women and recycling old exes, like they all do! They do not have the mental capacity to move forward. Maybe they will do better, but trust it will be at someone elses expense. They will meet a wealthy new victim or move in with someone to mooch off of. They are pathetic!