Lovefraud recently received the following e-mail. In it, I felt like I was reading a rerun of my experience.
I was involved with one of those 1 to 4% sociopaths/scammers you’ve outlined in your website.
I lost everything — Long story — you already know it — he was so charming — the love of my life — kind generous, giving, very sexy in and out of bed —
Anyways, it’s been just over 3 yrs (I was only with him 2 + yrs with a 3-month breakup period. Yep I took him back — Call me a LOSER now and hit the delete button — Wait, please don’t.) and I’m living in a mobile home park. Not any of the three properties I had on a golf course. Sold two of them and the third is heading for foreclosure. Put all the money 250K+ into a condo in Mexico and took loans out on my condo that I had paid off while I was selling new homes from ’95 -’05) the year I met him to pay for “our dream” — live in Mexico. I had an offer letter to work for the Four Seasons (selling luxury time shares — the interviews were long and the background check very extensive — I passed) and that would help pay the mortgage on the 3,000 sq. ft. beachfront condo WE bought — none of his money till he made some payments. And my job would hopefully cover his expenses of running his dream job of being a charter captain on a boat that we would lease from the person we bought the condo from — OMG — Thanks for listening. I need a support group to go to but I’d rather just be one-on-one and I’ve been to the therapists — they all (so far) just watch the clock and tell me stuff I already know.
Been extremely depressed — always suffered depression but was able to work and acquire my homes. Then, all of his promises and “deals” shot all my $$ and savings out the window — at a very high speed mind you.
How long does it take to get on with life?
My friends, which are fewer nowadays, say get over it and move on. But, I considered myself to be somewhat “street smart”. And so I continue to beat myself up for the horrific financial things I did and the mess I’m in. I know I need to accept some of the blame — but — he had the plan. I didn’t know his plan and went along with the Love sick person inside of me — finally, my ugh, prince had come — yada, yada, yada.
At the end (two weeks before our big move to start our new “fabulous” lives together I finally confronted him about his 150K in credit card debt. I have no idea why I didn’t run his credit before that close to our move — other than he was always paying for everything, including ALWAYS having to upgrade our flights to first class, etc — I thought he was just spoiling me — as he told me time and again — I deserved to be treated like a lady and he was going to be the one to do that — and claiming to pay off his cards monthly with his construction job.
By the way, yes he allowed me to run his credit one night when he was having one of his daily 6 Bud Lights. I’d gone to bed early — he came home beyond plastered, woke me up from a sound sleep and poured beer all over me — threw me to the ground and threatened to kill me (“Do you want me to kill you now?”) I responded two-fold. “Why are you wasting a beer?” and “No, I’d like to make it to my 43rd b-day.”
I called the police after he got up from holding me by my neck to the ground of our bedroom floor. I called a cab, as I’d already sold my sports car (as it wouldn’t have been too practical in Mexico) stayed in a motel for 2 weeks — next day called some movers and moved all my stuff to a storage — then after two weeks in “hiding” because I was afraid he’d go to my girlfriends homes looking for me. I stayed with a girlfriend until the tenants in my condo found a new place to move.
Sorry for rambling on — to repeat it’s been just over 3 yrs and I can remember everything like it was yesterday.
How long till I regain my life? I’m sure the answer is in ME — maybe a lobotomy? Please advise or let me know that I still have a life that’s worth living. I’ll be 46 in Feb. He’ll be turning 60 next yr.
Insidious tactic
This reader described in living color probably the most insidious tactic in the sociopathic arsenal: They target our dreams.
What better way to draw us in than to promise to make our deepest desires come true? How can we resist someone who wants what we want, and seemingly has the capacity to achieve it?
And how do the sociopaths know what we want? They ask us, and we tell them.
It happens early in the relationship, under the guise of “getting to know each other.” It goes something like this:
“So,” the sociopath asks, with pitch-perfect sincerity, “what do you really want in life?”
“I want a family before I get too old,” we reply. (Or, “I want to live on the beach on a tropical island.” Or, “I want to send my kids to a top college.” Or, “I want to retire while I’m still young enough to enjoy it.”)
“That’s what I want,” the sociopath replies, with a touch of feigned surprise. “We have so much in common. We must be meant for each other.”
Painful betrayal
Dreams explain one reason why the betrayal of the sociopath is so painful. Not only have they manipulated us, deceived us and stolen from us, but they used our own most treasured dreams to do it.
We have lost not only our love, money, time, home, and whatever else they have taken. We’ve lost our dreams. And that hurts.
Then, of course, comes the self-criticism. Why did we believe the sociopath? Why did we wait so long to check them out? Why didn’t we listen to people who warned us? Why didn’t we listen to ourselves?
Why? Because we wanted our dreams to come true.
It’s a brilliant tactic on the part of the predators. They use our dreams to hook us, and then because of our dreams, we don’t want to let go.
Recovery
So how, as this reader asks, do you move on in life? “I’m sure the answer is in me,” she writes.
She is right. A lobotomy is not necessary, but a “pain-ectomy” is. We have real, true, genuine pain because of what the sociopath did. In my opinion, we can’t analyze away the pain, or wish it away. Pain is emotional, and the only way to release it is emotional. We have to allow ourselves to experience it.
The only way out of the pain is through it.
This isn’t pretty. In my case, I spent a lot of time crying. To get out my anger, I imagined the con man’s face in a pillow, and beat it as hard as I could. Because our dreams were damaged, the pain goes deep, and releasing it is a process. We get rid of some, and more rises to take its place.
Eventually, however, we get to the point where we’ve cried all the tears and released all the anger. We get to the point of acceptance. Something awful happened, we had a part in it, but it’s time to move on.
Then we learn something about dreams. Dreams are linked to expectations, and expectations have a down side. Sometimes, if our expectations aren’t met, we feel like we’ve failed. Or, expectations blind us to other opportunities that may come our way. Because the new opportunities do not match our expectations, we don’t even see them.
Maybe we have to give up our original dreams. But that doesn’t mean there will never be dreams again. Perhaps something better, and more fulfilling, will come along, and because we are no longer looking to make a particular dream come true, we’ll see the new opportunity.
Dear Dancing Warrior –
I have some very bad news for you.
“I get into my serious goofy burlesque femme fatale mode and prance around the house with attitude. LOL!!! Sshhhh dont tell anyone. LOL”
I am afraid I must inform you that at least 7,234,579 of us now know. (The upside to this is that I’m reasonably confident that around 7,234,579 of us just had a giggle at your expense – imagining you prancing around – but WE THINK YOU ROCK!!!) xxx
GEM – soory, I went offline right after i posted.(well, actually i went searching for a picture of claudia cardinale after oxy mentioned cat balou, and i picked up a darned virus and had to shut down and run my virus checks). so, next time we are both on, okay?!
“‘That’s what I want,’ the sociopath replies, with a touch of feigned surprise. ‘We have so much in common. We must be meant for each other.'”
Ding-ding-ding-ding-ding!
January 1998: Here I am, at a friend’s birthday party, got my nice suit on, just came from work. Everything is going so well — job, apartment, finally feeling like I can afford to do things. And there he is, Mr. Perfect. All he has to tap into is my fear of being tied down to a traditional lifestyle. I want to be creative, flexible, as to lifestyle, but still in a meaningful relationship.
The only thing is, Mr. Perfect is quite religious. He admits it up front. You can’t say he didn’t warn me. But he said it was no problem. After all, he wants what I want. He’s an actor, also from some dreary place in the Midwest.
All the best of both worlds: A man with traditional values, but the shape those might take doesn’t have to mean a front lawn I don’t want to mow, and cookies I don’t want to bake.
Hooray!
But it was a fraud.
And the worst part of it is, his church trained him in just what to say to the depressed independent women of New York City. I’m not saying his church was Redeemer Presbyterian. Oh, no. And his pastor wasn’t the Rev. Tim Keller, who just wrote a stupid book about how to live your life like Jesus wants you to. Not at all. This church is NOT engaging in organized sociopathic behavior.
He acted on his own. Those Thursday night dinners where six people discussed my sex life without me being present were just things he told me about on the phone. The person who asked him “Why do you think God wants you to be with this person?” was not a co-worker of mine.
So why did I imagine all this happened?
I must have been dreaming. Of a better life.
@DancingWarrior, especially if you are in New York, you don’t have much of a chance of getting a good lawyer who sees through this without losing a pile of cash.
My advice is, figure out your own self how to do this, and represent yourself. Sharpen your teeth and bite this guy.
Find a friend who is a paralegal who can direct you to the body of law and consult with the court clerk on procedure, and you just might win. File a grievance against your current, wimpy lawyer.
I think lawyers should get training in what spaths are and how they operate. That whole “I sent you a check already” thing is very common, especially in real estate/rent situations. A low-level grift. Any lawyer who doesn’t go completely spastic and barracuda in such a situation isn’t worth two cents.
Dear Sister,
WOW I am so sorry that these things did NOT happen to you—I know no one in an organized religion would practice organized sociopathic controlling behavior and not someone with the title Reverend in front of their name. Oh, no! I just feel so safe around these people who profess to love Jesus while they abuse others. (sarcasm here in case it isn’t plain enough!)
Oh, sister, I AM SORRY that you have experienced this emotional rape, and I can’t think of a more apt description than emotional rape. They hold out the “mirror” and let us see our fondest dreams in them,, then they smash it—usually by bashing it into our heads, faces and noses. (((Hugs))))
Sister, I think many (most?) lawyers and therefore judges too ARE psychopaths. So education wouldn’t help much except be like therapy and teach them better ways to con.
I did describe it as rape. Then and there. And I got the usual response: I should have been smarter, I “asked for it.”
And yep, get away from the lawyers. Use them, not let them use you.
Sister,
I’ll get a second opinion with another lawyer I like and trust tomorrow. I will take action re. the child support asap because enough has been enough long time ago.
Aussie,
LOL whoops didn’t realize everyone was watching me get silly! *blush* LOL
Tell ya, when I am FREE of this heartache and pain in the arse, you WILL hear me scream and see me dance. Till then, saving energy and laying low in ambuscade.
YOu guys see EB around?
EB,
Let me know your thoughts re. the current conflict. I’ll see a 2nd opinion lawyer tomorrow.
X’s laweyr is threatening trial if I don’t agree to X’s terms. She claims that I am 13 yrs younger and will work & save more, and have “significantly higher retirement.” She insists on this and has convinced the pre-trial judge of it–though x’s soc. security statement was not available. Now that it is available, BOTH our monthly benefits are the same, his $100 higher–my teacher pesnion and his soc. security (plus he has other 401K etc).
She says that my fin. planner is walking a fine line playing attorney. She sincerely hopes “your client understands what could happen at trial because the issues will not necessarily be viewed by a judge as she is viewing them.” She says she’s not authorized to forward thsi to my atty, but she has “an affidavit from her client’s father re. the substantial gift to his son. It doesn’t seem your client is acknowledging this fact at all”. She’s alluding to my father-in-law’s gifting us the house (I have a letter that lists both our names, the amount of the gift, and amount of the loan, which both of us paid back, so don’t know what new affidavit he could be producing or why it would make a difference). His lawyer also insinuates repeatedly “assuming he continues to work” as though he is at the brink of his grave. He’s 57 has sleep apnea, otherwise perfectly healthy, but he’s milking the heart arythmia condition as if it’s life threatening.
There are two sticky points that the other atty. is pressing at–that my pension will be much higher–though the current staement as of today values the monthly benefit as similar to x’s. However, my lawyer is saying the judge will think of the total value of the pension–which is my contributions from my paychecks over the years, plus the state’s interest rate contribution, making it a bigger lump sum number. The weird logic is that they would value this higher abstract number which I don’t have access to–I can’t touch that money today, so I don’t HAVE it bec. it is a deferred benefit plan I will use after retirement, just as he’ll use his soc. sec. And so we go on and on in circles about the interpretation of my pension–and they inisist that it is some HUGE amount and thust the very uneven splitting of present assets. I am beside myself as my lawyer just doesn’t know how to deflect or respond or persuade and defent my interest.
The other sticky issue is the fact that the house came from his family’s gift so he’s enttitled to a bigger piece, but family masters recommened early on that due to the length of marriage, and fault–his abuse–that we both worked, that the house gift is a wash adn he didn’t have special claim to it. How is it that changed now at pre-trial. I don’t get why my lawyer did not argue and fight for the earlier masters recommendation and shut down the other atty?
I am quite worried about these creative interpretations of the disagreement on how to view key pieces of joint assets. And I don’t want to just give up and let him walk all over me and take more than is a fair share.
WIsh me luck tomorrow. If you see any helpful questions I haven’t thought of to ask, including how to immediately institute a court order for c.s. direct deductions before things are finalized, pls tell me. I also have an appt. scheduled for a possible new lawyer if I learn that my lawyer has been a doozy and let the ball drop. I’ll switch. I saw her experience online and she knows all the courts and judges and has also been a judge trial referee whatever that is.
WISH ME LUCK. I CAN’T WAIT TO GET THIS OVER WITH AND NOT LET HIM BULDOZE OVER ME.
Dancing –
Have YOU been ill at all since spathdom?
PTSD? Any other stress-related illnesses? If so, get certified statements from your doctor/s and/or counselors citing that you have PTSD believed to be a result of alleged long-term emotional/physical/mental/spiritual/financial (whatever is true) abuse on the part of your former partner. Ask them to write (but only if it’s true) that you have disclosed to them a long-standing history of partner/spousal abuse that has affected your health in a negative manner. If you haven’t told your doctor or a counselor yet, do it and then they CAN write a statement for you down the track a bit. “Your ability to continue to be employed as you currently are is questionable, depending on how your health issues resolve” – something like that.
This is working for me in our Family Court system over here, but only because it’s true. HE has a bad back (nowhere near as bad as he pretends but a lump of metal in his spine nonetheless; nothing that prevents his participation in random orgies though…) His lawyer has pumped that all the way, but sadly for them when they initiated proceedings, they did not know I had already been put off work for PTSD and Fibromyalgia, which both my doctor and counselor have attributed to the stress of long-term abuse. Puts us on a level playing field. My prognosis and therefore my future earning capacity – both unknowable.
So – as hard as it’s been for this workaholic to be off-work ill and as rotten as my symptoms are, in the case before the Family Court, it has actually worked out in my favour.
Just a thought! x